Anyone running wider tires?
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I'd like to know this as well. Current tires are good for range but less good for autocross haha. The Sapphire has 265/295 but the wheel arches are a bit extended to help with overall width. Unsure if 265/295 would fit on a trim other than Sapphire.
Ditto ... I'm patiently watching for a reply to this thread post ....
19" and 20" wheel measurements
I was able to finally get the measurements for the 19" and 20" wheels from Lucid as I'm looking into possibly buying aftermarket wheels. I haven't found these posted elsewhere on the forum, so I thought I'd share them: 19s - new gen -Dimensions: 19X8 -Weight: Approx 40lbs? -Offset: 40mm -Bore...
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The front tires do fit (a 265 squared configuration should therefore work), but the rear tires will not without the fender flares.
I assume the flares are bolt ons (or stick ons?). If so, I'd be willing to get them just to fit the 295s. My hope is the wheel/tire camber in when the suspension is loaded so there is no rubbing on the standard fenders or inner liner.
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Actually, the stamping process for the body is different, and then the fenders are tacked on at the end by workers. I do suppose you could just DIY glue them to the body, but do keep in mind you'd have to also match the paint! This is what the Sapphire looks like without flares:
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This actually shows the stamping process is the same. They are adding the cutouts for clipping in the fenders later. This is the same setup the Integra Type S has. They also chose for cost reasons not to stamp different fenders. Use the same fenders and add clip on flares. (I cant imagine cost was the reason on the Sapphire lol, but they must've had a reason)
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Oops, yet again I worded it confusingly. I meant stamping as in they added the cutouts, which I know is an incorrect usage of it. The regular airs do not have these cut-outs, however.
As for the cost savings, am I the only one who likes the "tacked on fender" look?
This is great information! Any chance you can provide bigger picture(s)?
It does look like the Sapphire fenders / door are the same as the other Air models but with an additional processing step to punch out the attachment holes for the flares. This seems to imply that the 295 set-up will fit standard Air, but will appear to poke out if add-on flares are not used. This also means the rear tires will camber in quite a bit when the rear suspension is loaded so the tire can get under that sheet metal.
Leaves a bigger budget for the ceramic brakes!
Actually, they are stick ons, 3M tape I assume.
I'm my case, Lucid rushed a bit with the assembly.
Take a close look at the picture. Hopefully, you will see it.
KOP was able to fix it though.
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Perhaps the punched out holes in the body work as shown in xponents post above are only used for correct placement of the flares? I've love to get a good look at the back of those flare components before installation.
From the picture you also provided, I can't help but think the 295 rear tires from the Sapphire would also fit the rear of a standard Air if the standard Air also had the fender flares. The 30mm difference is about 1.2 inches in total width ... or 0.6" on the inside and on the outside assuming the same wheel offsets between standard wheel and Sapphire wheels. I suspect Lucid moved more of the 30mm to the outside hence the reason for the fender flares?
Some bits of information I'm searching for before having wheels made is a) will the Sapphire wheels and tires work on a standard Air without rubbing? and b) what are the offsets on the Sapphire wheels?
I went with 275/40/20's in the rear, and they've been absolutely fine. My local tech said he'd probably stick with the factory size in the front (245/40) as you could risk rubbing, particularly on u-turns.
xponents
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Well, @Bill55 has been told that 265's fit without any rubbing on stock airs. Perhaps a 275/265 would work? Or for more daring members, 285s?
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19" and 20" wheel measurements
I was able to finally get the measurements for the 19" and 20" wheels from Lucid as I'm looking into possibly buying aftermarket wheels. I haven't found these posted elsewhere on the forum, so I thought I'd share them: 19s - new gen -Dimensions: 19X8 -Weight: Approx 40lbs? -Offset: 40mm -Bore...
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I'd probably step up the front thread width in proportion to the rear tread width to minimize the differences in over or understeer.
xponents
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Yup, then you could possibly try a 285 on the rear with 265's at the front. That would keep an extremely similar "stagger proportion" to 265/245 as in the stock tires!
