Yes, charging anxiety can still exist...

Snafu

Active Member

Verified Owner
Joined
Jun 11, 2022
Messages
491
Reaction score
666
Location
NH
Cars
2000 RAV4, AGT/Zen Red
I had to drive 45 miles to pick up family at the New Haven airport during the gale-force-winds storm last week in my AGT, and the road conditions were terrible. I had been driving the car for a couple days (away from home, so no overnight “top-ups”) and was at about 57% when I started out at 8:00AM. Incredible winds with trucks all over the road, and aside from a couple really strong gusts, the car was really planted. There was one tense moment when I hit some standing water, and my passenger, I swear, thought we were going to die, but the car went straight through without any issues – thank you low center of gravity and heavy weight. He still couldn’t believe the stability. (His described his car as having the aerodynamics of a billboard in this weather.) So, en route we found out the flight was delayed and delayed again. We arrived at New Haven, but there were incredible turbulence and high winds, so the flight was diverted to Hartford. Off we trekked to Hartford, which was about 55 miles away. We made it about halfway there and were told they were giving New Haven another shot, so we turned around. Got close to New Haven and they once again diverted to Hartford…. Back on the road. More drama over uncertainty on location, but they finally did land in Hartford (a couple medical emergencies on board delayed deplaning, but they finally got their luggage around 1:30). It was another hour and a half drive to get them to their destination, so I didn’t get back to our starting point till about 3:30PM, and I was down to 12% and looking for chargers. A couple close-by locations had pitiful speed, but there were 4 EA prototypes (had 400 kW and both NACS and CCS hands) that worked flawlessly at another farther stop (which did not appear in the Plugshare app) – 315 kWh max speed and I was up to 80% in about 30 minutes, thankfully.

This was only the second or third time in 3+ years with this car that I have had range anxiety, which is why I opted for the AGT. Until they step up their game in the charging infrastructure, there is no way I would buy an EV without AT LEAST a 400-mile range and the higher charging speed capability keeping in mind that winter and weather can even eat away at that. The massaging seats made the hours in the car much more comfy, though.

The one down-point was that my frunk would not close completely after loading the car at the airport, and a reboot left only the left-most third of the glass cockpit working and the pilot screen blank. Customer Service answered within 2 minutes, helped troubleshoot and I was on my way. This is the first time this ever happened, so I’m wondering if the rain and wind had an impact.
 
That's when you probably have to rely on the SC network, even if it means charging at 50 KWh speeds
 
I had to drive 45 miles to pick up family at the New Haven airport during the gale-force-winds storm last week in my AGT, and the road conditions were terrible. I had been driving the car for a couple days (away from home, so no overnight “top-ups”) and was at about 57% when I started out at 8:00AM. Incredible winds with trucks all over the road, and aside from a couple really strong gusts, the car was really planted. There was one tense moment when I hit some standing water, and my passenger, I swear, thought we were going to die, but the car went straight through without any issues – thank you low center of gravity and heavy weight. He still couldn’t believe the stability. (His described his car as having the aerodynamics of a billboard in this weather.) So, en route we found out the flight was delayed and delayed again. We arrived at New Haven, but there were incredible turbulence and high winds, so the flight was diverted to Hartford. Off we trekked to Hartford, which was about 55 miles away. We made it about halfway there and were told they were giving New Haven another shot, so we turned around. Got close to New Haven and they once again diverted to Hartford…. Back on the road. More drama over uncertainty on location, but they finally did land in Hartford (a couple medical emergencies on board delayed deplaning, but they finally got their luggage around 1:30). It was another hour and a half drive to get them to their destination, so I didn’t get back to our starting point till about 3:30PM, and I was down to 12% and looking for chargers. A couple close-by locations had pitiful speed, but there were 4 EA prototypes (had 400 kW and both NACS and CCS hands) that worked flawlessly at another farther stop (which did not appear in the Plugshare app) – 315 kWh max speed and I was up to 80% in about 30 minutes, thankfully.

This was only the second or third time in 3+ years with this car that I have had range anxiety, which is why I opted for the AGT. Until they step up their game in the charging infrastructure, there is no way I would buy an EV without AT LEAST a 400-mile range and the higher charging speed capability keeping in mind that winter and weather can even eat away at that. The massaging seats made the hours in the car much more comfy, though.

The one down-point was that my frunk would not close completely after loading the car at the airport, and a reboot left only the left-most third of the glass cockpit working and the pilot screen blank. Customer Service answered within 2 minutes, helped troubleshoot and I was on my way. This is the first time this ever happened, so I’m wondering if the rain and wind had an impact.
The "sure footedness" of the car is how I describe it in crappy weather. Good story, also my experience with the EA chargers have been a pleasure lately. I don't know why plug share ignores the chargers, but it certainly keeps the wait time down. I've tried to add it to the filter on the app once or twice and thought that was the issue.it isn't. Just use the standalone Electrify app now.
 
I fell in love with EVs over 10 years ago with the purchase of our first Tesla, a 2015 Model S P90D. The power, the instant torque, the low center of gravity, regenerative braking, and the freedom from maintenance and from weekly gas station visits (with home charging) were an allure that remains to this day. The arrival of Lucid on the scene about halfway along, with its record-breaking range, astonishing space engineering, and superb driving dynamics, sealed the deal, and we are now an all-EV household with three Lucids in the garage (a 2022 Air Dream Performance and two Gravity Dream Editions).

The only shadow over this sunny landscape was the CCS charging infrastructure, particularly the chronic east coast issues with Electrify America, Lucid's chosen charging partner. For all the glories EVs brought to local driving, road tripping remained a source of unease and the reason we held on to our last ICE vehicle (a 2018 Honda Odyssey) as long as we did.

Then along came the Gravity. With its combination of decent range, world-beating charging speed, and industry-first native NACS port on a non-Tesla, it seemed the shadows had at long last lifted and we could finally road trip in an EV with no more worry than with an ICE car. And our first few months with the Gravity and the reliability of its charging performance bolstered that confidence.

But then, as Lucid struggled to right its capsized software boat, along came the 3.3.20 update and, for the first time in six months of Gravity ownership, we started having intermittent charging issues with both Superchargers and CCS chargers. We haven't yet had a situation where we could not eventually charge, but the confidence that charging worries were permanently vanquished evaporated as the shadows rolled back in.

I hope this worry passes as Lucid slogs onward through its software struggles. But the return of this worry -- combined with the disgust at U.S. government policy becoming openly hostile to EVs and developing charging infrastructure -- has been very depressing of late.
 
The "sure footedness" of the car is how I describe it in crappy weather. Good story, also my experience with the EA chargers have been a pleasure lately. I don't know why plug share ignores the chargers, but it certainly keeps the wait time down. I've tried to add it to the filter on the app once or twice and thought that was the issue.it isn't. Just use the standalone Electrify app now.
I take it back. I went to the same 400 kW EA chargers (Waterford Commons in CT) this evening to charge up before leaving for home tomorrow. I preconditioned the battery for 20 minutes and was at 25% when I arrived at the chargers... the first one topped out at 110 kW and I moved to another with a top speed of 130 kW.... If I'd had a sharpie, I would have removed the second zero from the "400 kW" advertised on them. Disappointment noted on PlugShare.
 
I take it back. I went to the same 400 kW EA chargers (Waterford Commons in CT) this evening to charge up before leaving for home tomorrow. I preconditioned the battery for 20 minutes and was at 25% when I arrived at the chargers... the first one topped out at 110 kW and I moved to another with a top speed of 130 kW.... If I'd had a sharpie, I would have removed the second zero from the "400 kW" advertised on them. Disappointment noted on PlugShare.
The car itself limits how much can be accepted, cold weather is a bitch! I've never gotten the 350kw maximum on any of those chargers. Thankfully, I'm able to plug in overnight at home on my own and forego the anxiety, but I'll take an EVGO or Electrify charger over any other, if possible, when on an extended trip.
 
We travel to/from Wisconsin to Arizona yearly, and charging anxiety is especially high when we leave for AZ in December. When temps are below 40, we space our charge spots at no more than 200 miles.

Our big worry for next year is whether EA will continue to support and build charging locatons. I don't see how it can be a profitable enterprise for EA; we encountered only 2 other cars charging at EA at our 12 EA stops along our route.

I did buy a Tesla adaptor for backup but haven't used it yet. Adding to our anxiety is the canceling of federal subsidies to build more EV infrastructure. We will be switching to a plug-in hybrid because of charging anxiety.
 
Back
Top