V2G proof!

[hydbob]

 

[Tesla2.0]

Shouldn’t that be -xx mi instead?

 

[hellolucid]

what's V2G?

 

[DeaneG]

Looks like 120V.

 

[DJL]

what's V2G?

Vehicle to Grid. Sending electricity from your car into the grid. FYI, V2H is Vehicle to House, if your are interested.

 

[noobzilla]

That's a nice feature. How much did you spend to allow your house to receive electricity from the car?

 

[Tesla2.0]

Wait! You mean we can go to EA fast charger to take free electricity and sell it back to our electric grid back home? Sounds like a good deal! #arbitrage

 

[DJL]

That's a nice feature. How much did you spend to allow your house to receive electricity from the car?

Lucid will be selling a bi-directional charger sometime in Q3. I understand that is will cost $1000 or so. In addition, you will need a switch that cuts off the land line once a blackout occurs and allows the car battery to provide AC to your house. I will need to expand my current breaker box to allow for the new 100 amp breaker. Plus 80 amp 220 volt lines will need to be wired from the new breaker to where my charger will be located. Total estimated cost, all in is about $4500. This is significantly cheaper than the $24K bid I received to install a natural gas 22KW generator with sound cover.

 

[hydbob]

Okay this kind of went the wrong direction. That was me hooked up to a 150kw EA charger...

 

[MPawelek]

Lucid will be selling a bi-directional charger sometime in Q3. I understand that is will cost $1000 or so. In addition, you will need a switch that cuts off the land line once a blackout occurs and allows the car battery to provide AC to your house. I will need to expand my current breaker box to allow for the new 100 amp breaker. Plus 80 amp 220 volt lines will need to be wired from the new breaker to where my charger will be located. Total estimated cost, all in is about $4500. This is significantly cheaper than the $24K bid I received to install a natural gas 22KW generator with sound cover.

I have a 22KW generator here on my place in Hurricane alley on 2 one thousand gallon propane tanks. When Hurricane Harvey hit we were without electricity for two weeks and did just fine and I also was capable of running my father‘s hemodialysis machine during the Hurricane and every day afterwards for the two weeks. How long can someone run a whole house on a Lucid?

 

[LuciPearl]

Lucid will be selling a bi-directional charger sometime in Q3. I understand that is will cost $1000 or so. In addition, you will need a switch that cuts off the land line once a blackout occurs and allows the car battery to provide AC to your house. I will need to expand my current breaker box to allow for the new 100 amp breaker. Plus 80 amp 220 volt lines will need to be wired from the new breaker to where my charger will be located. Total estimated cost, all in is about $4500. This is significantly cheaper than the $24K bid I received to install a natural gas 22KW generator with sound cover.

I am in a similar situation to you with the exception of having a solar power system with a small battery backup for short term outages; hence, I already have the cut off capability. Spoke to a friend at a company developing a bi directional home charger, all companies are waiting on final standards. Once established we will likely several such chargers hit the market, including Lucid. That organization estimates 1Q23, so Lucid may be a bit optimistic.

 

[Tesla2.0]

I have a 22KW generator here on my place in Hurricane alley on 2 one thousand gallon propane tanks. When Hurricane Harvey hit we were without electricity for two weeks and did just fine and I also was capable of running my father‘s hemodialysis machine during the Hurricane and every day afterwards for the two weeks. How long can someone run a whole house on a Lucid?

Tesla PowerWall is 13.5 kWh, so my Lucid AGT would be almost 9 Tesla PowerWall emergency backup power house. Maybe 4 days if lucky enough to have 100% charge from start?

 

[Tesla2.0]

I am in a similar situation to you with the exception of having a solar power system with a small battery backup for short term outages; hence, I already have the cut off capability. Spoke to a friend at a company developing a bi directional home charger, all companies are waiting on final standards. Once established we will likely several such chargers hit the market, including Lucid. That organization estimates 1Q23, so Lucid may be a bit optimistic.

I was told at Houston service center today that Lucid’s Wunderbox charger may even be realistically Q1-2023. He doesn’t want to give out too much info, I’m sure company is directing him to be cautious as there are too many impatient buyers are taking every word accountable.

I rather buy Lucid version charger than generic brand from Amazon. So for now, I’ll just go with basic 220 outlet installation.

 

[TCGT]

Okay this kind of went the wrong direction. That was me hooked up to a 150kw EA charger...

But when I charge from the 150 EA, and plug in at home I should make some money, right?

 

[LuciPearl]

But when I charge from the 150 EA, and plug in at home I should make some money, right?

It depends on your power company programs for solar power buy backs. I have not seen a plan where the power company would buy back without the home having solar, but check with your power company. If they have such a program it may not be worth it given your new equipment costs and how much they pay per kWh.

Where I am in Texas the best program I can find is price I sell is same price I pay. However, in each billing period they will not pay me for more power than they sell me. So while I can never get a check, I could have a $0.00 bill for power + a fixed monthly fee for lines etc. Used to be you could make money but in most states those plans are going away.

 

[LCIDdreams]

It depends on your power company programs for solar power buy backs. I have not seen a plan where the power company would buy back without the home having solar, but check with your power company. If they have such a program it may not be worth it given your new equipment costs and how much they pay per kWh.

Where I am in Texas the best program I can find is price I sell is same price I pay. However, in each billing period they will not pay me for more power than they sell me. So while I can never get a check, I could have a $0.00 bill for power + a fixed monthly fee for lines etc. Used to be you could make money but in most states those plans are going away.

If someone has solar with powerwalls perhaps you could charge up at EA for free, then V2H to the powerwalls, then send it back to the grid. The utility won’t know the power came from a Lucid versus the solar panels

On the other hand this is probably a lot of work for about $12 each time (if utility buys back at $0.10/kWh)!

 

[LuciPearl]

Tesla PowerWall is 13.5 kWh, so my Lucid AGT would be almost 9 Tesla PowerWall emergency backup power house. Maybe 4 days if lucky enough to have 100% charge from start?

That sounds about right. In my home if I only use essential items like lights, tv, computers, fans, refrigerator/freezer…..no AC, electric dryer, etc, I run about 1.1 kilowatt per hour. So the Air would provide about 4 days of power during a blackout if I minimize usage to essential items only.

 

[Whidbey_LucidGT]

Okay this kind of went the wrong direction. That was me hooked up to a 150kw EA charger...

but 3mi/hr? and -1kW? I can't get over the wrong data during charging.

I also hate that it flips from miles/hr to miles/minute in the readout. Caused me half an hour of head scratching before I realized why it was going from 54, 55, 57, down to 1 at my home charger. Only then I realized it was flipping from 60 mi/hour to 1 miles/minute (!).

 

[Electrified]

Lucid will be selling a bi-directional charger sometime in Q3. I understand that is will cost $1000 or so. In addition, you will need a switch that cuts off the land line once a blackout occurs and allows the car battery to provide AC to your house. I will need to expand my current breaker box to allow for the new 100 amp breaker. Plus 80 amp 220 volt lines will need to be wired from the new breaker to where my charger will be located. Total estimated cost, all in is about $4500. This is significantly cheaper than the $24K bid I received to install a natural gas 22KW generator with sound cover.

24K? The genset with tax and 25% profit should be $8,500.00 and typical labor for resi install should be about 24 man hours @$150.00 PH, so that's $3,600.00, plus another $1,000.00 to $1,500.00 for materials.

[IN STOCK] 22kW Generac Generator + 200A SE Rated ATS 7043

National Best-Seller—Guardian 22kW Standby Generator + 200-Amp SE-Rated ATS Backs Up Entire House—Load Control for Multiple 5-Ton A/C Units

www.norwall.com

 

[TCGT]

24K? The genset with tax and 25% profit should be $8,500.00 and typical labor for resi install should be about 24 man hours @$150.00 PH, so that's $3,600.00, plus another $1,000.00 to $1,500.00 for materials.

[IN STOCK] 22kW Generac Generator + 200A SE Rated ATS 7043

National Best-Seller—Guardian 22kW Standby Generator + 200-Amp SE-Rated ATS Backs Up Entire House—Load Control for Multiple 5-Ton A/C Units

www.norwall.com

Are you a contractor, or did you get the rate that you are suggesting? Saying mark up and labor "should be" less is easy to say, unless you got it yourself, or are offering. Every city is different, and I also got a quote closer to 20k for this system, though it included a propane tank and running new gas lines (northern California).