Traffic sign reading

[Tesla2.0]

Today, driving local streets testing I thought the 1.2.6 OTA update has a new bug, it didn’t update street speed limit, maintain at 75mph. So I slowed down and saw the speed limit sign and took this picture. As soon as I took the shot and passed the sign, the dashboard read speed limit “30 mph”. My question is does the system updates navigation speed guidance based on GPS noted speed or optically reading these signs and put on the dashboard?

 

[hydbob]

Today, driving local streets testing I thought the 1.2.6 OTA update has a new bug, it didn’t update street speed limit, maintain at 75mph. So I slowed down and saw the speed limit sign and took this picture. As soon as I took the shot and passed the sign, the dashboard read speed limit “30 mph”. My question is does the system updates navigation speed guidance based on GPS noted speed or optically reading these signs and put on the dashboard?
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It's from the cameras. That's why if a sign is obscured it won't update.

 

[Adnillien]

A third of the time mine will not read speed limits signs at all. Typically in the afternoon after the car has been parked in the sun.

 

[Sandvinsd]

A third of the time mine will not read speed limits signs at all. Typically in the afternoon after the car has been parked in the sun.

I prefer Waze. The speed limits are embedded in the maps and updated by users when they change. However, won’t be able to use Waze until CarPlay is active or I will have to old school it and mount my Iphone like I do in our 7-year old Sienna. At least my 30k 2018 Nissan Leaf can run Waze.

 

[Demosthenes]

I prefer Waze. The speed limits are embedded in the maps and updated by users when they change. However, won’t be able to use Waze until CarPlay is active or I will have to old school it and mount my Iphone like I do in our 7-year old Sienna. At least my 30k 2018 Nissan Leaf can run Waze.

I’d like to see a table comparing and contrasting everything the 30k 2018 Leaf can and cannot do versus the Lucid. Only fair after all

 

[Sandvinsd]

Sure. But remember, this is a 4-year old Leaf though so old technology and software and we are comparing cars that differ in cost by 4-5 fold.

For starters, from what I hear on this forum, the Leaf can:

lane centering
CarPlay functionality
timed charging
no phantom energy loss overnight
no loss of charge after DCFC when parked afterwards
<5 second boot up when waking - all functionality is ready for driving at that time including back up cameras
possibly better efficiency from much of what is reported since I get 3.5 miles per kWh, and since there is no phantom loss, it is actual miles driven / kW delivered.
usb data connectivity so stable streaming
XM radio (although I don’t use it)
12v outlet in front seat area (nice to hav3 but not available on the Air GT

…. and finally, it is actually available to drive. Since the Lucid is not available, there is nothing it can do that the Leaf cannot.

but I expect these things (except for hardware differences) will be fixed sometime in 2H 2022 when my car is finally delivered

 

[Demosthenes]

The drive availability is probably the most compelling ‘have’ vs ‘have not’ feature

The other half of the table (what the lucid can do/does better) seems to be missing…I suspect that if we really tried, that side would be dramatically longer. But what do I know, I’ve never driven a Leaf!

Jokes aside, I do agree that the delivery delays and (especially perhaps) the lack of communication are just super frustrating. I think they would be for me as well

 

[joec]

The drive availability is probably the most compelling ‘have’ vs ‘have not’ feature

The other half of the table (what the lucid can do/does better) seems to be missing…I suspect that if we really tried, that side would be dramatically longer. But what do I know, I’ve never driven a Leaf!

Jokes aside, I do agree that the delivery delays and (especially perhaps) the lack of communication are just super frustrating. I think they would be for me as well

Yeah, we could easily compare the average Maserati or Lamborghini to a Leaf and find both lacking in some ways.

But almost no one would rather have the Leaf.

 

[Bobby]

Yeah, we could easily compare the average Maserati or Lamborghini to a Leaf and find both lacking in some ways.

But almost no one would rather have the Leaf.

My Maserati QP was a quality and electronic nightmare.

 

[DeaneG]

Yeah, we could easily compare the average Maserati or Lamborghini to a Leaf and find both lacking in some ways.

But almost no one would rather have the Leaf.

I actually parked my Maserati spyder in the garage most of the time once I got my 2011 Leaf. The Leaf was a lot less of a drama queen for commuting, when you just want the drive to be over. But except for a fried clutch from the clutch disk sticking on the trans input shaft, the Maserati was quite reliable.

 

[Sandvinsd]

I actually parked my Maserati spyder in the garage most of the time once I got my 2011 Leaf. The Leaf was a lot less of a drama queen for commuting, when you just want the drive to be over. But except for a fried clutch from the clutch disk sticking on the trans input shaft, the Maserati was quite reliable.

My 2018 Leaf is at least able to be driven. We use it for >95% of any local driving. The Sienna is used for 100% of the trips due to the lack of range on the Leaf. I’m sure an Air GT will be more enjoyable, but unfortunately is not available. If and when it arrives, it will take over all the trip drives and a significant portion of the local driving if it truly drives as I expect is should. The Sienna will be relegated to third car for when the boy gets his license In 9 months or so.

 

[Tesla2.0]

There is this option seems might be better than Leaf.

Kandi's small electric car to cost $7,999 in California

Chinese electric startup Kandi announces that its small K27 electric car has been approved for California roads and it is going to cost only $7,999 in the state after incentives. Several Chinese automakers are currently looking to expand outside of China, and that’s especially true of electric...

electrek.co

 

[DeaneG]

My 2018 Leaf is at least able to be driven. We use it for >95% of any local driving. The Sienna is used for 100% of the trips due to the lack of range on the Leaf.

My wife was just joking yesterday about all the places we couldn't go in our 2011 Leaf: San Francisco (40 miles away!) etc. With Electrify America's presence on interstates, now an EV with only 200 mile EPA range can easily make most long trips along both coasts and can travel coast-to-coast. Travel isn't a huge burden with at least a 200 mile EPA range and 150kW charging capability, depending on the shape of the car's charging curve. However, visiting some very large national parks (Yellowstone, Glacier, Lassen, etc) can be impossible, or at least a real headache, in a typical EV due to lack of charging infrastructure within the park. I'm hoping the AGT can take us to more places without renting a gas car.

 

[Sandvinsd]

My wife was just joking yesterday about all the places we couldn't go in our 2011 Leaf: San Francisco (40 miles away!) etc. With Electrify America's presence on interstates, now an EV with only 200 mile EPA range can easily make most long trips along both coasts and can travel coast-to-coast. Travel isn't a huge burden with at least a 200 mile EPA range and 150kW charging capability, depending on the shape of the car's charging curve. However, visiting some very large national parks (Yellowstone, Glacier, Lassen, etc) can be impossible, or at least a real headache, in a typical EV due to lack of charging infrastructure within the park. I'm hoping the AGT can take us to more places without renting a gas car.

I guess you technically can make it from SD to SF or other places with 200 miles of range. The question is only how many days it will take you with all the charging. LOL.

 

[DeaneG]

I guess you technically can make it from SD to SF or other places with 200 miles of range. The question is only how many days it will take you with all the charging. LOL.

I've done Cupertino to San Diego four times (950 miles round trip) and up to the redwoods once (900 miles r.t.) comfortably in our 210-mile range Volvo EV. On average it's a 15-minute charging/driver change/pee stop about every 90 minutes of driving. Not that bad and we arrive refreshed. With the Air we may still make the same number of stops, but we'll get to eat where we want to, pee where we want to, and charge where we want to - not necessary to have all three in the same place.

 

[Sandvinsd]

I've done Cupertino to San Diego four times (950 miles round trip) and up to the redwoods once (900 miles r.t.) comfortably in our 210-mile range Volvo EV. On average it's a 15-minute charging/driver change/pee stop about every 90 minutes of driving. Not that bad and we arrive refreshed. With the Air we may still make the same number of stops, but we'll get to eat where we want to, pee where we want to, and charge where we want to - not necessary to have all three in the same place.

Yeah. That extra range is what I want in the Air Since I don’t want to charge every 90’. if I drove my Leaf, it would likely be every 60-90’ for a charge, starting at 30’ in the fist stop and then progressing to an hour or more as the battery warms and charging speed slows.

 

[Bunnylebowski]

Yeah. That extra range is what I want in the Air Since I don’t want to charge every 90’. if I drove my Leaf, it would likely be every 60-90’ for a charge, starting at 30’ in the fist stop and then progressing to an hour or more as the battery warms and charging speed slows.

Yeah the range has been great for my road trips because of the options it provides. ABRP app has been super useful since you can tell it what SOC% you want to arrive at, as sometimes your destination is 50 miles or more from a good DC fast charger and there’s no good level 2 options nearby your destination. It’s usually faster to go 50 miles out of the way to add 300 miles in 25-30 minutes then it is to park for several hours at a level 2 or 2 hours at a slower DC fast charger that’s only pumping out 50kw. Driving 50 miles out of the way to charge a 200 mile range car won’t work cuz you’d have burned half the range round trip to charge it.

 

[DeaneG]

We were looking at a trip to Lassen a couple months ago, and found that our 200-mile EV would have to backtrack quite a bit (a couple hour's worth in total) to reach a charger outside the park to continue the journey. The Air GT could easily make the trip without any backtracking.