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The Long Goodbye

I visited the Atlanta (Roswell) service center today for a screw stuck in my rear tire. I found out the SCs don’t patch tires, they will only sell you a new one for $985 plus tax (23 inch).

Based on what I read in this thread I asked the SC to check the serial numbers of my fobs. I had October delivery of my DE. My fobs had been mostly trouble-free, although not waking the car up a handful of times. One of the fobs was version 1, which they replaced (the one I carry). The other fob, assumed to be the one I received a couple of months after delivery, was version 2. So, if you’re having problems with your fob have them check the serial number.

A few other discoveries…

I also asked about the seatbelt weld recall and if they could inspect it while I was there. I was told it was not a quick inspection and that part of the seat (and maybe part of the subfloor) had to come out for inspection. My car was calendared for inspection in June, although I don’t show any scheduled service in the app. It sounded like I was going to have the leave the car and get a loaner, since it’s not a quick inspection, especially if they have to replace it.

I also asked if the 2024 Air Sapphire with 3,200 miles the Atlanta SC had been keeping for marketing purposes was still around. It was not. It got sold last week for $157K. So, that screenshot someone posted on this site of the used Sapphire on the Lucid website was real. Someone from Minnesota bought it within hours and flew down to drive it home. The 2024 is identical in features to the 2026 model, so that person saved almost $100K on what was identical to a new one. I was sick to my stomach because I could’ve easily asked my guy there to give me the heads up if it went up for sale, but I never thought they’d sell it, especially for that price.

Took my tire to Discount Tire and got it patched. They did it for free, even though I hadn’t purchased the tire from them (although many sets of M5 tires). Once again it reinforced why I will continue to buy all my future tires at Discount Tire. They also priced the tire protection certificates for me again (you don’t have to buy tires there to purchase the replacement certificates). The price of the certificates had gone up considerably since I last checked. For 22”/23” P Zero PZ5 OE replacements the tire & certificate prices were as follows: front $523ea, rear $1,064ea, installation $112, tire protection certificate $106.50ea front + $201.25ea rear = $615.50 total (this was closer to $350 last year, as I recall), excluding taxes and tire disposal fees. So, out the door $3,445 total including taxes & fees (no certificate), $4,071 (with certificate).
 
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ClearlyLucid said:
I visited the Atlanta (Roswell) service center today for a screw stuck in my rear tire. I found out the SCs don’t patch tires, they will only sell you a new one for $985 plus tax (23 inch).
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Dang! I just learned that the tire choices are ludicrously expensive. The OE 22/23 tires are $560 & $920 from TireRack. That is another order of magnitude more than I am accustomed to spending. The 20/21 and 21/22 options are only a little more expensive. (The Porsche Macan EV that also runs a staggered setup is similarly spendy.) I shall be leaning toward the smaller wheels, since I hate spending money on tires.
 
ClearlyLucid said:
Took my tire to Discount Tire and got it patched. They did it for free, even though I hadn’t purchased the tire from them (although many sets of M5 tires). Once again it reinforced why I will continue to buy all my future tires at Discount Tire. They also priced the tire protection certificates for me again (you don’t have to buy tires there to purchase the replacement certificates). The price of the certificates had gone up considerably since I last checked. For 22”/23” P Zero PZ5 OE replacements the tire & certificate prices were as follows: front $523ea, rear $1,064ea, installation $112, tire protection certificate $106.50ea front + $201.25ea rear = $615.50 total (this was closer to $350 last year, as I recall), excluding taxes and tire disposal fees. So, out the door $3,445 total including taxes & fees (no certificate), $4,071 (with certificate).
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Yep, did the same with mine. Discount Tire is great and they loved having the Gravity as the service person who worked there was a big Lucid fan and wanted to see one in person.
 
Exxxviii said:
The OE 22/23 tires are $560 & $920 from TireRack. That is another order of magnitude more than I am accustomed to spending.
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I am very impressed that are previously able to get tires for $50 to $90 dollars. Kudos for being such a smart shopper!
 
drb3333 said:
I am very impressed that are previously able to get tires for $50 to $90 dollars. Kudos for being such a smart shopper!
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Double is also an order of magnitude. Gotta get outside your decimal box.
 
TahoeMichael said:
I've worked in AI since the 80's, back when expert systems were the cool kid on the block. The joke in the AI community is that as soon as we can make something work reliably, it's not called AI anymore. Things that have been called AI in the past (tree search algorithms, to pick one example) are now widely deployed, and everyone uses them everyday without noticing. The cutting edge of big-date machine-learning based AI is far from being reliable, but the field has produced a lot of technology which is highly reliable.
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yeah, it's frustrating how even old-school decision trees, logistic regression, and linear regression get the "AI" marketing.

And it's horrifying and/or terrifying that I've met programmers who have no idea what a linear model is and instead throw all of their structured data into LLMs
 
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tmichael said:
I think it is because we're all trying to use our community knowledge to apply work-arounds or experiences for problems that occur. This may seem weird, but i joined to read about the problems - I knew the good things, but wanted to know the bad things before I ordered. If this forum just spoke about how everything was perfect and the car was 100% perfect, I would have no need for the forum other than social banter. In fact, it would probably just bash other manufacturers, since our Lucids were perfect.
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I’m not against those with problems posting, it’s normal human behavior to more likely to post if you have a problem. Just statistics.
 
Discount Tire certs used to be about $40 a tire - now they are based on the price of the tires new, and can easily cost several hundred per tire. Still probably worth it but not cheap insurance anymore.
 
Leftlane said:
Discount Tire certs used to be about $40 a tire - now they are based on the price of the tires new, and can easily cost several hundred per tire. Still probably worth it but not cheap insurance anymore.
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Yeah, my M5 tires used to be $25 a tire. At some point they moved to be a percentage of the replacement cost. What a deal $25 a tire would’ve been on these babies.
 
Nunya said:
They also price match, including mail order places!
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Yes, they reminded me of the price match! Unfortunately, Costco and Sam’s Club don’t yet carry the larger tires.
 
gaskiller said:
I’m not against those with problems posting, it’s normal human behavior to more likely to post if you have a problem. Just statistics.
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Yes...forums tend to be statistically biased toward people with problems. That is natural and unavoidable. It is best to just remember that.
 
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