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Tesla discontinues lane centering from Autopilot: TechCrunch

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TechCrunch and others posted articles on Tesla's discontinuance of lane centering from basic, included Autopilot. As someone who has advocated adding lane centering to DreamDrive or DreamDrive premium, this lessens the pressure on Lucid to do so. However, it would still be smart for Lucid to add it to Airs without DDPro (1 or 2) or DreamDrive 2 to differentiate it further from Tesla at little added cost to Lucid.

The article concludes that Tesla is trying to push people into the FSD subscription, but they neglect to mention that part of Elon's pay package is tied to FSD adoption. So he is again throwing customers under the bus and the company into a longterm decline by diminishing the appeal of the basic Tesla 3/Y. IMHO.
 
Lane centering was separate setting from the self driving system in my last car. I had it on all the time and it was great. I think my wife's car does the same thing. I would love to see Lucid adopt this approach.
 
EZEVDriver said:
TechCrunch and others posted articles on Tesla's discontinuance of lane centering from basic, included Autopilot. As someone who has advocated adding lane centering to DreamDrive or DreamDrive premium, this lessens the pressure on Lucid to do so. However, it would still be smart for Lucid to add it to Airs without DDPro (1 or 2) or DreamDrive 2 to differentiate it further from Tesla at little added cost to Lucid.

The article concludes that Tesla is trying to push people into the FSD subscription, but they neglect to mention that part of Elon's pay package is tied to FSD adoption. So he is again throwing customers under the bus and the company into a longterm decline by diminishing the appeal of the basic Tesla 3/Y. IMHO.
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DD Pro 2 comes with lane centering as standard as "Hands-On Drive Assist" is part of the basic package now. When you jump up to Premium you get adaptive lane biasing
 
Wow thats awful. That was always a huge Tesla advantage. So glad I moved on from them.
 
Elon is trying to force FSD adoption. His compensation package has heavy incentives for reaching FSD targets. Problem is that although there is a large fan base of people who love FSD, there are also a large number of people who either don’t trust FSD yet or do not want to pay for it. Many people are happy with just good highway ADAS. I have a nephew who bought a Model 3 a year ago and after doing the free trial of FSD, decided to not subscribe. He is not a heavy high mileage driver and so had a hard time justifying the subscription cost.

I think this will ultimately drive up FSD adoption but at the detriment of driving down car sales. How much, I’m not sure.
 
Miami_Lucid_Man said:
Wow thats awful. That was always a huge Tesla advantage. So glad I moved on from them.
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I would wager that they can't sell FSD for almost any price, because its not that great and 99% of people are perfectly fine with Autopilot. So they make Autopilot part of FSD and pretend like people are buying FSD.

Sort of like MS "CoPilot". People don't want it, so they just install it on all the computers before you buy it.
 
He needs to just make the whole thing a Robotaxi subscription service and do away with even buying the car. When it's a competitive 35cents a mile I will gladly take it for commuting and trips into the city to avoid parking.
 
FSD is good and is worth the $99 a month I’ve been paying but I’ll drop it if they raise the price and I would never pay the $8k for it outright.
 
Smorgasbord said:
Ex-14-year Tesla owner here:

FSD is now pretty great.
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FSD can be one of the best Level 2 ADAS systems and still be a problem. People paid since 2016 for Level 4 autonomy and robotaxis, not “pretty great driver assist.” Praising it today doesn’t erase years of overpromising and charging for futures that never arrived.

It’s all smoke and mirrors at Tesla. You see all over the media that Robotaxis in Austin no longer have a safety driver in them. This is true, they just moved the safety driver to another car to follow the driverless one. The whole thing is a running joke at this point!
 
HC_79 said:
This is true, they just moved the safety driver to another car to follow the driverless one.
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Reports were that Waymo had done the same thing with chase cars back in the early Phoenix days.

It's progress. Slow and steady, with a concern for safety. And probably more importantly, Tesla can use these driverless/monitorless rides as data to present to regulators for approval.
 
Smorgasbord said:
Reports were that Waymo had done the same thing with chase cars back in the early Phoenix days.

It's progress. Slow and steady, with a concern for safety. And probably more importantly, Tesla can use these driverless/monitorless rides as data to present to regulators for approval.
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FSD fanatics have an excuse/reason for everything. Tesla? Concerned for safety? Give me a break!

I can openly admit it’s an impressive system but still also has flaws. Seems you can’t though.
 
EZEVDriver said:
TechCrunch and others posted articles on Tesla's discontinuance of lane centering from basic, included Autopilot. As someone who has advocated adding lane centering to DreamDrive or DreamDrive premium, this lessens the pressure on Lucid to do so. However, it would still be smart for Lucid to add it to Airs without DDPro (1 or 2) or DreamDrive 2 to differentiate it further from Tesla at little added cost to Lucid.

The article concludes that Tesla is trying to push people into the FSD subscription, but they neglect to mention that part of Elon's pay package is tied to FSD adoption. So he is again throwing customers under the bus and the company into a longterm decline by diminishing the appeal of the basic Tesla 3/Y. IMHO.
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No surprises here.

When we bought our first Tesla in 2015 I paid $3,000 for the Enhanced Autopilot upgrade which was the most advanced ADAS system Tesla offered at the time. A few years later, when they introduced their early FSD they removed several features I had paid for in Enhanced Autopilot and migrated them over to FSD.

It's just one of the several sour tastes with which that brand has left me and one of the reasons I won't get near another Tesla.
 
merveille07 said:
99 a month? That's a lot of money.
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Way better than $8k up front, and I can turn it off and back on any time I want. So if my car is going to sit for a while I can just unsubscribe, and then when I have road trips coming up I resubscribe.
 
hmp10 said:
A few years later, when they introduced their early FSD they removed several features I had paid for in Enhanced Autopilot and migrated them over to FSD.
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If they actually removed features from your car that previously worked, that sounds like a good law suit.

The question that's still unclear at this point is whether Tesla is removing AutoSteer from cars that have it today, or only removing it as a standard feature in newly sold vehicles.
 
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