Roon Ready

[Spaniard]

Hi everybody, I asked Maqui whether it is possible to make the Lucid Roon Ready. She wasn't familiar with Roon. I use it at home, but it is not easy to explain what Roon is and how it works. Perhaps some of you could explain it in our forum?

 

[thyname]

Roon? Nobody is familiar with Roon, except perhaps you and me. Lifetime Roon subscriber since 2018.

I can tell you, there is no such thing as “Roon Ready” in a car. Not possible. Roon ARC app, yes, possible. Do you know that Lucid has Apple CarPlay and there is a Roon Arc with it? You can certainly use that. This is what I actually do. Works great

 

[HC_79]

WTF is Roon?

 

[thyname]

WTF is Roon?

Like I said

 

[borski]

Leasing is so complicated

 

[borski]

I assume Roon is a bedtime story service for kangaroos?

 

[borski]

Oh, I see, it’s a really complicated way to listen to music? Lol

Roon

roon.app

 

[HC_79]

Just give me a native Apple Music app in the car with Atmos support please! lol

 

[AZLucidGuy]

Roon? Nobody is familiar with Roon, except perhaps you and me. Lifetime Roon subscriber since 2018.

I can tell you, there is no such thing as “Roon Ready” in a car. Not possible. Roon ARC app, yes, possible. Do you know that Lucid has Apple CarPlay and there is a Roon Arc with it? You can certainly use that. This is what I actually do. Works great

I am also a lifetime subscriber to Roon. I am listening to Jimi on Roon right now as I type...

 

[borski]

I am also a lifetime subscriber to Roon. I am listening to Jimi on Roon right now as I type...

Cool.

So… what is it?

 

[AZLucidGuy]

Hi everybody, I asked Maqui whether it is possible to make the Lucid Roon Ready. She wasn't familiar with Roon. I use it at home, but it is not easy to explain what Roon is and how it works. Perhaps some of you could explain it in our forum?

It is very unlikely that Lucid's sound system will ever be Roon Ready. Roon specifications are that a Roon endpoint must be on the same IP network segment as the Roon Core (although I have cheated and used Roon over a VPN back to my core at home). The Roon ARC app, which is intended for remote use over the internet, works great with CarPlay, and I have listened to my Roon library many times in my Lucid Air using Roon ARC in CarPlay.

 

[borski]

It is very unlikely that Lucid's sound system will ever be Roon Ready. Roon specifications are that a Roon endpoint must be on the same IP network segment as the Roon Core (although I have cheated and used Roon over a VPN back to my core at home). The Roon ARC app, which is intended for remote use over the internet, works great with CarPlay, and I have listened to my Roon library many times in my Lucid Air using Roon ARC in CarPlay.

Okay, but… what is it?

(Seriously, what’s the goal? lol)

 

[AZLucidGuy]

Cool.

So… what is it?

Roon is the best system to integrate and maintain a coherent library of music from various sources and view them in one awesome interface. FLAC, DSF and streaming (Tidal and Qobuz are currently supported). It manages streaming to various output devices at the best resolution (bit rate) that the endpoint supports and will do on the fly bit rate and bit depth conversions seamlessly.

It's hard to explain without getting into the weeds. But this article is a decent primer. Roon is widely regarded in audiophile circles and the premier software to use to manage your music library. https://www.whathifi.com/advice/roon-everything-you-need-to-know

Here is a 2:30 video from the Roon folks explaining it, according to them. Recently, Roon was acquired by Harman International (Samsung subsidiary) and will likely have a lot more funding and visibility in the future as a result. https://roon.app/en/how-roon-works

 

[thyname]

It is very unlikely that Lucid's sound system will ever be Roon Ready. Roon specifications are that a Roon endpoint must be on the same IP network segment as the Roon Core (although I have cheated and used Roon over a VPN back to my core at home). The Roon ARC app, which is intended for remote use over the internet, works great with CarPlay, and I have listened to my Roon library many times in my Lucid Air using Roon ARC in CarPlay.

Yup! Roon ARC is meant for mobile, including in cars. It works perfectly.

 

[borski]

Roon is the best system to integrate and maintain a coherent library of music from various sources and view them in one awesome interface. FLAC, DSF and streaming (Tidal and Qobuz are currently supported). It manages streaming to various output devices at the best resolution (bit rate) that the endpoint supports and will do on the fly bit rate and bit depth conversions seamlessly.

It's hard to explain without getting into the weeds. But this article is a decent primer. Roon is widely regarded in audiophile circles and the premier software to use to manage your music library. https://www.whathifi.com/advice/roon-everything-you-need-to-know

Here is a 2:30 video from the Roon folks explaining it, according to them. Recently, Roon was acquired by Harman International (Samsung subsidiary) and will likely have a lot more funding and visibility in the future as a result. https://roon.app/en/how-roon-works

Interesting! Will read up on it.

 

[HC_79]

Interesting! Will read up on it.

Sounds like Music Assistant in HA

 

[Green G]

For some audiophiles, Roon introduces signal distortion and therefore is not preferable. I tried it for a while because of its UI but its ability to judge DR was poor so I dropped it. Being able to read an artist profile was not worth the $830 to me. My Innuos server combines my local and Qobuz collection in its app just as well, for free. One can argue that Roon has all sorts of options for sound modification but in my opinion that modifies the signal and thus FOR ME, it’s not a good option. Furthermore, I don’t think that driving on a road with all the noise gives me the space to do “critical listening”.

For those who are attracted by the appeal to have access to their home NAS to stream in the car, I’d ask if you’re willing to part with $830 for a lifetime subscription (or $12.49 monthly) just so you could listen to your ripped cd’s or other recordings with Roon ARC….. which you could alternatively do through
1: a USB drive in your car (<$100 once) or,
2: compromise through Qobuz in CarPlay or
3: Tidal through native app (both with your annual/monthly subscription).

I guess my point is that you really need to have terabytes of music on your home NAS that you want to have access to in your car. The Roon UI is not of much use when you’re driving.

 

[AZLucidGuy]

For some audiophiles, Roon introduces signal distortion and therefore is not preferable. I tried it for a while because of its UI but its ability to judge DR was poor so I dropped it. Being able to read an artist profile was not worth the $830 to me. My Innuos server combines my local and Qobuz collection in its app just as well, for free. One can argue that Roon has all sorts of options for sound modification but in my opinion that modifies the signal and thus FOR ME, it’s not a good option. Furthermore, I don’t think that driving on a road with all the noise gives me the space to do “critical listening”.

For those who are attracted by the appeal to have access to their home NAS to stream in the car, I’d ask if you’re willing to part with $830 for a lifetime subscription (or $12.49 monthly) just so you could listen to your ripped cd’s or other recordings with Roon ARC….. which you could alternatively do through
1: a USB drive in your car (<$100 once) or,
2: compromise through Qobuz in CarPlay or
3: Tidal through native app (both with your annual/monthly subscription).

I guess my point is that you really need to have terabytes of music on your home NAS that you want to have access to in your car. The Roon UI is not of much use when you’re driving.

Roon streams bit perfect files to Roon Ready endpoints, as such I have not encountered any “signal distortion”. I only had to pay $499 for my Roon lifetime subscription which I have been using since 2018 — so seven years or so has made it a bargain. I hope to be using for the next 7 and beyond.

Here is a Roon benefit you may be overlooking — and what I think is one of its greatest strengths — seamless on the fly bit rate and format conversion. Want to play a 384K FLAC on a device which only supports up to 192K? No problem. Want to play a DSD file on a device which only does PCM? Check. Roon is amazing. Also one click on the signal path icon tells you what’s happening at the moment. Sure it’s best to have no conversions, but it’s amazing that you can play any file or stream anywhere with Roon. My best Roon Ready endpoint is my dCS Bartok DAC with headphone amp.

 

[boydracing]

For some audiophiles, Roon introduces signal distortion and therefore is not preferable. I tried it for a while because of its UI but its ability to judge DR was poor so I dropped it. Being able to read an artist profile was not worth the $830 to me. My Innuos server combines my local and Qobuz collection in its app just as well, for free. One can argue that Roon has all sorts of options for sound modification but in my opinion that modifies the signal and thus FOR ME, it’s not a good option. Furthermore, I don’t think that driving on a road with all the noise gives me the space to do “critical listening”.

For those who are attracted by the appeal to have access to their home NAS to stream in the car, I’d ask if you’re willing to part with $830 for a lifetime subscription (or $12.49 monthly) just so you could listen to your ripped cd’s or other recordings with Roon ARC….. which you could alternatively do through
1: a USB drive in your car (<$100 once) or,
2: compromise through Qobuz in CarPlay or
3: Tidal through native app (both with your annual/monthly subscription).

I guess my point is that you really need to have terabytes of music on your home NAS that you want to have access to in your car. The Roon UI is not of much use when you’re driving.

Put together a modest threatre in my basement during COVID and Roon was one of those items I had to investigate and find the worth. I guess if you have lots of music and sources to manage Roon would be awesome. I initially ran QOBUZ, Tidal and an Apple Music library. I ran Roon to centralize and kick the tires for a month and did not really find the worth for me. Yup, my mileage did vary. I guess I did not have a vast library or did not really stream or leverage to other devices. Presently, since Tidal went to FLAC, I now just run Tidal, have a flash drive of hi-res stuff, and a couple of great cd players.

 

[thyname]

Roon streams bit perfect files to Roon Ready endpoints, as such I have not encountered any “signal distortion”. I only had to pay $499 for my Roon lifetime subscription which I have been using since 2018 — so seven years or so has made it a bargain. I hope to be using for the next 7 and beyond.

Here is a Roon benefit you may be overlooking — and what I think is one of its greatest strengths — seamless on the fly bit rate and format conversion. Want to play a 384K FLAC on a device which only supports up to 192K? No problem. Want to play a DSD file on a device which only does PCM? Check. Roon is amazing. Also one click on the signal path icon tells you what’s happening at the moment. Sure it’s best to have no conversions, but it’s amazing that you can play any file or stream anywhere with Roon. My best Roon Ready endpoint is my dCS Bartok DAC with headphone amp.

Love your post! I paid for Lifetime Roon in July 2018 $499 . Best purchase I have ever made in this hobby. No signal distortion of any types.

By the way, I have spent way more in my home audio than my 2025 Air Touring. Do the math. I know what I am talking about