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[Westchester Air]

Have been looking at this forum for a while and finally joined! Planning on putting my deposit down this afternoon, but still trying to figure out some things about charging. It’s my first EV, so I need to set up a home charger. I have 100 amp service, and was considering putting in a 50 amp Plug, or possibly a 30 amp Plug to use with my mobile charging cable. I think I’d probably be ok with 50 amp, charging at night, but it might be a bit tight with only 100amps.

Options: I could put in the 50 amp plug and if it proves too much, I could simply plug in a charger (Chargepoint Flex?) and limit the amperage to something lower. Or I could straight away install a hardwired charger with the same option (turning the amperage up or down.)

Question: I know the Lucid typically is set to charge through the car’s interface. Can someone tell me about their experience charging their Lucid using a Chargepoint or similar charger? Is it literally just plug it into the Chargepoint and schedule through the Chargepoint interface? Any problems? Issues?

Another advantage of the Chargepoint is that it would allow me to participate in a NY program for discounts on energy (SmartCharge NY). Lucid is (by itself) not compatible with the program. I’d need a charger to “play nice” and participate.

Any thoughts or tips are much appreciated. Thanks!

 

[Adnillien]

You are going to have a difficult time with 100A service. There is equipment that can adjust charging power to keep total load within your service but I don’t know how that plays with the Lucid. Search on Tom Moloughney State of Charge.

The ChargePoint Flex works well with the Lucid as long as you schedule with the Lucid rather than the ChargePoint. The ChargePoint can be set to lower current which would help in your case.

 

[Westchester Air]

You are going to have a difficult time with 100A service. There is equipment that can adjust charging power to keep total load within your service but I don’t know how that plays with the Lucid. Search on Tom Moloughney State of Charge.

The ChargePoint Flex works well with the Lucid as long as you schedule with the Lucid rather than the ChargePoint. The ChargePoint can be set to lower current which would help in your case.

Pardon if this question seems dumb, but you can still schedule with Lucid? In effect, you’d plug in the car with the charger “off” and the Lucid (based on the schedule) could still “pull” the charge from the chargepoint when the schedule calls for it?

 

[Adnillien]

Unfortunately this will not work. The Lucid will not schedule the charge correctly if the power is off when you plug in. The Lucid will not wake up if the power comes on from the EVSE ChargePoint when the Lucid is sleeping. I have heard that Lucid may be working on a software update that will fix this but I would not count on it happening soon.

 

[Westchester Air]

Unfortunately this will not work. The Lucid will not schedule the charge correctly if the power is off when you plug in. The Lucid will not wake up if the power comes on from the EVSE ChargePoint when the Lucid is sleeping. I have heard that Lucid may be working on a software update that will fix this but I would not count on it happening soon.

So how would you actually schedule via the Lucid?

 

[Adnillien]

You can set a start time from the pilot panel in the car or from the app. It is best to do this before plugging your Lucid in.

 

[Sandvinsd]

The Lucid has very primitive scheduled charging. Essentially, it will turn on and charge anytime within a 12h window and will not turn off until the charging limit on the car is reached. You can set when you want the car to turn on from the car’s pilot panel, under the charging tab. For example, if you set it at midnight, the car will wake up and pull from the ChargePoint charger at that time. The ChargePoint charger is not scheduled so it is always ready to deliver power. Anytime the car wakes within that 12h window, it will pull power. In that example, if you plug the car at 1 minute before noon on a low battery, it will charge for hours until the limit you set is reached. Unfortunately, this is a very primitive charging schedule. Other EVs will allow you to set specific on and off times such as on at midnight, off at 6 am, will allow different schedules for weekdays and weekends and even allow you to adjust the amount of current it pulls. Other EVs also will allow one to schedule the charge from either the ChargePoint charger or the car. In my opinion, the Lucid is at the bottom of EV technology when it comes to scheduled charging at home. I hope they will see this as a major deficiency and spend a little time writing proper scheduled charging software.

 

[Westchester Air]

The Lucid has very primitive scheduled charging. Essentially, it will turn on and charge anytime within a 12h window and will not turn off until the charging limit on the car is reached. You can set when you want the car to turn on from the car’s pilot panel, under the charging tab. For example, if you set it at midnight, the car will wake up and pull from the ChargePoint charger at that time. The ChargePoint charger is not scheduled so it is always ready to deliver power. Anytime the car wakes within that 12h window, it will pull power. In that example, if you plug the car at 1 minute before noon on a low battery, it will charge for hours until the limit you set is reached. Unfortunately, this is a very primitive charging schedule. Other EVs will allow you to set specific on and off times such as on at midnight, off at 6 am, will allow different schedules for weekdays and weekends and even allow you to adjust the amount of current it pulls. Other EVs also will allow one to schedule the charge from either the ChargePoint charger or the car. In my opinion, the Lucid is at the bottom of EV technology when it comes to scheduled charging at home. I hope they will see this as a major deficiency and spend a little time writing proper scheduled charging software.

Super clear. Thanks!