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Lucid Motors reveals all the tech inside its all-electric Air sedan (TechCrunch article)

hmp10

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Over the weekend Tesla announced that it was canceling plans for the Model S Plaid+, claiming that the base Plaid was "just so good" that the Plaid+ was superfluous.

However, the "plus" was touted as having over 130 miles more range than the base Plaid: 520+ miles vs. 390 miles. Musk is now claiming that no one needs more than 400 miles of range.

I had suspected ever since Musk announced the Plaid+ specs at Battery Day last year that he had made the 520+ range claim only because Lucid had recently announced that the Air had attained 517 miles of range in FEV testing using EPA protocols, and Musk went off half-cocked in trying to steal Lucid's thunder.

What this really means is that, for now at least, Tesla is abandoning the field in the range wars (and the associated efficiency wars) to Lucid.

This, given that the Mercedes EQS EPA range is likely to come in around 420 miles with a battery pack about the same size as the Air, means that Lucid's promise to enter the market with industry-leading range and efficiency is likely to materialize.
 
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Over the weekend Tesla announced that it was canceling plans for the Model S Plaid+, claiming that the base Plaid was "just so good" that the Plaid+ was superfluous.

However, the "plus" was touted as having over 130 miles more range than the base Plaid: 520+ miles vs. 390 miles. Musk is now claiming that no one needs more than 400 miles of range.

I had suspected ever since Muck announced the Plaid+ specs at Battery Day last year that he had made the 520+ range claim only because Lucid had recently announced that the Air had attained 517 miles of range in FEV testing using EPA protocols, and Musk went off half-cocked in trying to steal Lucid's thunder.

What this really means is that, for now at least, Tesla is abandoning the field in the range wars (and the associated efficiency wars) to Lucid.

This, given that the Mercedes EQS EPA range is likely to come in around 420 miles with a battery pack about the same size as the Air, means that Lucid's promise to enter the market with industry-leading range and efficiency is likely to materialize.
For me the 517 mile range means an effective range of about 360 miles since I would prefer not to trigger the slower rates over 80% while on a trip and still get uncomfortable going into single digits at the bottom. Starting with only 400 miles would reduce that effective range to 280. Which is doable, but certainly not something I would want to pay premium prices for.
 

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Exactly. And then there's cold weather and driving at realistic highway speeds that further reduces range. There is no way that Musk really believes 400 miles of putative range (and Teslas are notorious for their EPA ranges being wildly optimistic) is where all striving should stop. It's just as far as he can get with Tesla's rapidly-aging drivetrain technology.

It's sort of like the old saying -- if they try to run you out of town, get in front and call it a parade.
 
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