Lucid added as "coming soon" on Tesla SC network

[hydbob]

Yesterday I tried to test my adapter on a Tesla supercharger and could not get close enough to connect to the cable end (yes, I straddled the line) as the curb was too high for my license plate. The car is registered in New York and a front plate is required. So, rather than drill the front bumper, I used an adapter that a Lucid guy suggested that bolts into the tow bar thread and attaches to a frame for the plate. I only needed a few inches (yes, I attached the adapter to the cable) so I have to try another Supercharger.

Won't work no matter where you go. If you really want to charge on a SC need to find a magic dock.

 

[David R.]

Won't work no matter where you go. If you really want to charge on a SC need to find a magic dock.

I have heard it said that if the Tesla app is configured in such a manner that the car being charged is a car that is truly approved for Tesla (say an Ionique 5) then it will also work for the Air as it is not a smart connection.

 

[Alex]

I have heard it said that if the Tesla app is configured in such a manner that the car being charged is a car that is truly approved for Tesla (say an Ionique 5) then it will also work for the Air as it is not a smart connection.

That was true for a while with one of the IONIQ cars, but was later disabled by Tesla. And this worked within IONIQ brand. People have verified that if you say you have a Gravity, and try to plug in an Air, it will not work.

 

[David R.]

That was true for a while with one of the IONIQ cars, but was later disabled by Tesla. And this worked within IONIQ brand. People have verified that if you say you have a Gravity, and try to plug in an Air, it will not work.

Thanks. So it is a smart connection then.

 

[David R.]

I have heard it said that if the Tesla app is configured in such a manner that the car being charged is a car that is truly approved for Tesla (say an Ionique 5) then it will also work for the Air as it is not a smart connection.

It has been widely stated here that the nacs to ccs adapters are not smart adapters. I ordered the approved Lucid adapter (which appears to be identical to the lectron adapter sans the lucid branding) but it hasn’t arrived yet. So, i decided to try my spare Levtron nacs to ccs charger again. Of course, it did not work last week or so when I tried it the first time at a Tesla Supercharger. Tonight, I tried it again after updating my app and confirming it listed Tesla SC in the app. After a few seconds of connecting to the car the lights tirned red and stated that i needed to disconnect and then reconnect the cable. It would not work at all. I have long had a credit card on file with Lucid in the app. I suppose that my Lectron adapter could be bad?

 

[tonybot]

It has been widely stated here that the nacs to ccs adapters are not smart adapters. I ordered the approved Lucid adapter (which appears to be identical to the lectron adapter sans the lucid branding) but it hasn’t arrived yet. So, i decided to try my spare Levtron nacs to ccs charger again. Of course, it did not work last week or so when I tried it the first time at a Tesla Supercharger. Tonight, I tried it again after updating my app and confirming it listed Tesla SC in the app. After a few seconds of connecting to the car the lights tirned red and stated that i needed to disconnect and then reconnect the cable. It would not work at all. I have long had a credit card on file with Lucid in the app. I suppose that my Lectron adapter could be bad?

Check other threads on this. Plug and charge didn't work and OP had to use Tesla app. He did use a Volvo adapter.

 

[Blue Dream]

My Lucid adapter arrived yesterday. However, my Air is not even a week old yet. So far, we have only charged at our house. Not sure I want to experience my first DC charging at a place I’m not positive it will work. I’ve also heard only a 50w charging rate which makes it only worth it if there are no other choices. And then, only to be able to get to a better charger.

 

[DeaneG]

My Lucid adapter arrived yesterday. However, my Air is not even a week old yet. So far, we have only charged at our house. Not sure I want to experience my first DC charging at a place I’m not positive it will work. I’ve also heard only a 50w charging rate which makes it only worth it if there are no other choices. And then, only to be able to get to a better charger.

You might as well do a practice charge at both a nearby EA station, and a Tesla station, to become familiar with DC fast charging. Choose a station and time that's not crowded so you don't feel pressured.

 

[Haggy]

It has been widely stated here that the nacs to ccs adapters are not smart adapters.

I'm not sure what you mean by smart adapter. The pins pass through, including the control ones, so it should look the same to both the car and charger as it would if there were no adapter. If you mean an adapter smart enough to switch between AC and DC, it would have to have heavy duty contactors and wouldn't fit in anything with a reasonable size.

 

[L-Dude]

My Lucid adapter arrived yesterday. However, my Air is not even a week old yet. So far, we have only charged at our house. Not sure I want to experience my first DC charging at a place I’m not positive it will work. I’ve also heard only a 50w charging rate which makes it only worth it if there are no other choices. And then, only to be able to get to a better charger.

You def want to try your car at different DC chargers. It helps you get familiar with how the car operates with the various chargers, and it identifies any technical problems the car might have with different charger networks.

 

[Worldwide Beagle]

I'm not sure what you mean by smart adapter. The pins pass through, including the control ones, so it should look the same to both the car and charger as it would if there were no adapter. If you mean an adapter smart enough to switch between AC and DC, it would have to have heavy duty contactors and wouldn't fit in anything with a reasonable size.

I think by saying it is not a smart adapter, he was saying the adapter does not recode or translate the handshake from the SC to Lucid, only pass through. I have read that the newer modern Tesla (v3/4) and our non-Tesla handshake protocols are quite similar.

That said, I have opened up dumb cheap adapters to still find them stuffed with a chip and devices for GFCI, overheat, line distortion, faults, disconnects, and other safety issues. I will bet the Lucid one I got today does as well

 

[David R.]

I'm not sure what you mean by smart adapter. The pins pass through, including the control ones, so it should look the same to both the car and charger as it would if there were no adapter. If you mean an adapter smart enough to switch between AC and DC, it would have to have heavy duty contactors and wouldn't fit in anything with a reasonable size.

I meant some sort of wireless or other electronic connection circuit between the car and the supercharger completed by the adapter. Maybe via a chip, or a tag that permits the adapter to work, but those more knowledgeable than me say there isn’t.

 

[David R.]

I think by saying it is not a smart adapter, he was saying the adapter does not recode or translate the handshake from the SC to Lucid, only pass through. I have read that the newer modern Tesla (v3/4) and our non-Tesla handshake protocols are quite similar.

That said, I have opened up dumb cheap adapters to still find them stuffed with a chip and devices for GFCI, overheat, line distortion, faults, disconnects, and other safety issues. I will bet the Lucid one I got today does as well

Yes, those were my thoughts. Please let us know what you find inside the Lucid adapter.