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Ron_Burgundy said:
Another item, off topic, but to help assuage concerns around the switch. I can confirm the Gravity has MORE storage than our R1S had as I pack a ton of stuff every week for my daughter’s soccer games and I can see the extra space in the Gravity and don’t have to play Tetris as much as I do in R1S. It’s not massive, but it’s noticeable and a masterclass in deception by Lucid as you’d think the R1S has more space.

My kids, generally oblivious to all things but their screens, have remarked mutliple times on how much space they have in the second and third row versus our R1S and our X.

As well, aside from riding higher (which I know many folks like), the Gravity accelerates more smoothly and just handles so much better. I can’t imagine paying $125k for a new quad R1S as I paid less than that for our GGT and it’s just a much more composed car that delivers more value. I know that’s tough to say at $100,000+, but it’s true.
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Oh, certainly. The second and third row leg room is much better in the Gravity. I work very close to the Lucid Service Center around here and stop by often to look at it. I parked my R1S next to the Gravity to compare and what Lucid has pulled off with the space in the Gravity is truly an optical illusion to marvel at. The Rivian appears to have a bigger frunk (which I do use quite often) but otherwise I see the Gravity as an improvement in space overall, not that I ever complained about the space in the R1 tbh.

And agreed. Every time I mention the price of the Gravity, most people scoff, but the combination of space, luxury, power and efficiency is just unmatched. It is a true do it all vehicle. And an ICE equivalent is by no means cheaper (or better in any way). Hopefully the next Gen R1S will have things like rear wheel steering, sound deadening and better build quality to help justify the price tag. But I'm with you, if I'm going to spend $100k+ on a vehicle, the Gravity is likely the only one on that list. So glad to hear you are enjoying yours.
 
Spaceship said:
Oh, certainly. The second and third row leg room is much better in the Gravity. I work very close to the Lucid Service Center around here and stop by often to look at it. I parked my R1S next to the Gravity to compare and what Lucid has pulled off with the space in the Gravity is truly an optical illusion to marvel at. The Rivian appears to have a bigger frunk (which I do use quite often) but otherwise I see the Gravity as an improvement in space overall, not that I ever complained about the space in the R1 tbh.

And agreed. Every time I mention the price of the Gravity, most people scoff, but the combination of space, luxury, power and efficiency is just unmatched. It is a true do it all vehicle. And an ICE equivalent is by no means cheaper (or better in any way). Hopefully the next Gen R1S will have things like rear wheel steering, sound deadening and better build quality to help justify the price tag. But I'm with you, if I'm going to spend $100k+ on a vehicle, the Gravity is likely the only one on that list. So glad to hear you are enjoying yours.
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I have a friend who recently bought an R1S. I was asking him about it and he really isn’t fond of it at all. I’ve driven my relative’s R1T and found it fine but I didn’t love it. My understanding is that the R1S actually rides much worse than the R1T because they engineered the T first and just shortened the platform for the S. So a lot of people complain about how jouncy the ride is in the S. Never driven or even ridden in one myself but that’s basically what he said about his.

While the Model Y is no longer the best solution for us I really enjoy driving it because it feels sporty and responsive. I liked the Gravity on the test drive because it felt similar except that all of the inputs require more force, which I supposed I’ll get used to. But the ride of it was really fun and
 
Xminus6 said:
I have a friend who recently bought an R1S. I was asking him about it and he really isn’t fond of it at all. I’ve driven my relative’s R1T and found it fine but I didn’t love it. My understanding is that the R1S actually rides much worse than the R1T because they engineered the T first and just shortened the platform for the S. So a lot of people complain about how jouncy the ride is in the S. Never driven or even ridden in one myself but that’s basically what he said about his.

While the Model Y is no longer the best solution for us I really enjoy driving it because it feels sporty and responsive. I liked the Gravity on the test drive because it felt similar except that all of the inputs require more force, which I supposed I’ll get used to. But the ride of it was really fun and
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People complain about the ride, but honestly, it has a lot of options to choose from and in standard + soft it rides well IMO the lower right heights and sport (firm) modes are generally where the complaints become more understandable, as it borders on atrocious. I will say though, if you are looking for a refined vehicle, the Gen1 RIS is likely not going to make you happy. It is a a bit quirky, rough around the edges and the ride is a bit too bouncy, but it gives the car a personality and I do enjoy driving it. I could totally see someone not enjoying it, but for me personally, it has been exactly as promised and I smile every time I get behind the wheel. Rivian has done a good job with using bright colors, unique design choices, having a mascot and fun UI ideas to make the car feel less like a computer on wheels and more like a fun off-road capable vehicle that happens to be electric as well. I will likely get the R2 when that is released as I view the brand positively and will trade in my R1S for the Gravity sometime next year.

My main issues with Rivian though has been charging speeds. Here is where Lucid can hang its hat. I do a lot of road trips and can do 4-5 hour stretches without stopping, and when I do, I tend to make them less than 20 minutes. We also have a Ford Mach-E, and both take north of 30-40 minutes to charge. This is where the Gravity becomes more attractive to me. A smoother suspension, more luxury features and a more quiet cabin are just additional icing. Also, my wife prefers it so...I can justify a stupidly expensive purchase to her this way lol But agreed that Lucid and Tesla have similar throttle mapping and feel more responsive. Doesn't bother me, but the R1S definitely has a heavier and longer pedal, so it can take a bit more work to get it going. Honestly, the whole "EVs are soulless appliances that aren't fun to drive" is such a lazy argument. They all do not drive the same, and a lot of them can be downright fun. Just like with ICE cars. You have a Corolla, and you also have a 911. YMMV. Sorry, tangent over.

But to not derail this thread too much, I'm glad to see that suspension is not an issue with the Gravity. I do drive spiritedly, even in a big heavy SUVs, so being able to drive it in all different ride heights depending on my mood sounds really appealing! This, to me, will truly make it the do it all vehicle I've been planning on getting.
 
Ron_Burgundy said:
I have my Gravity set to “low” for the easy entry/exit, but it doesn’t move to low until I get out of car. Is this the same for others?

I put it in park and wait (thinking it will “kneel” like our R1S), but nothing happens. When I get out and close the door, I hear the air suspension lowering it. Perhaps it’s only supposed to be on “low” for entry and not to aid in exit?

Just want to make sure it’s acting as it should.
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Probably thats normal at door opening. That's the way recent Range Rovers and Land Rovers I've had work as well. And one can put those in "access" mode manually.

I had an R1S (1st gen) for a week last winter in CO. I think the ride is equivalent to a Toyota Land Cruiser, which is fine but not super luxury IMO. Couldn't get used to the R1S suspension squeak.
 
bhramabull said:
Actually I should slightly correct myself -
  1. The car lowers itself once the driver's side seat belt is unbuckled (and car is in park of course!)
  2. The car only starts to raise itself once you get into "drive" and the car moves forward ever so slightly
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The algorithm should be:
• As soon as you unbuckle while stopped, the car automatically goes into Park.
• Going into park (automatically or manually) starts the to easy exit/entry movement.
• When parked, buckling seat belt (if unbuckled) or closing the door (if open), or going out of park should all start the move from easy exit to driving position. It shouldn't have to wait for the car to move, which is actually more dangerous.
 
Smorgasbord said:
The algorithm should be:
• As soon as you unbuckle while stopped, the car automatically goes into Park.
• Going into park (automatically or manually) starts the to easy exit/entry movement.
• When parked, buckling seat belt (if unbuckled) or closing the door (if open), or going out of park should all start the move from easy exit to driving position. It shouldn't have to wait for the car to move, which is actually more dangerous.
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Ron_Burgundy said:
The “issue” I have with the exit is it doesn’t lower the suspension until I open door to get out and then close it. So it’s not helpful for getting out - only helps for entry next time. If I unbuckle and open door, it just stays at standard height…
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Same with our car sometimes. I'm 5'7" and find myself scraping across the seat cushion bolster as I drop to the ground. I'm wondering how long before it starts showing wear.
 
hmp10 said:
Same with our car sometimes. I'm 5'7" and find myself scraping across the seat cushion bolster as I drop to the ground. I'm wondering how long before it starts showing wear.
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That is my issue. Ours is already showing wear with a crease on the bolster and I am not a huge person.

That said, “low” IS low and my kids have come close to scraping doors on curbs and sidewalks, even at standard height since the bottom of the door is low. So…not sure where we will end up.

But, the fact it won’t go to low automatically when I am in park, unbuckle and open door makes it useless for exit.
 
with my Land Rover after I park, from the screen I either select the car height adjust and set it to "Access" to lower the car or more usually I slightly open the door and wait ~3 seconds so the car does it itself.

wouldn't bother me doing the same on the Gravity.
 
eelpout said:
with my Land Rover after I park, from the screen I either select the car height adjust and set it to "Access" to lower the car or more usually I slightly open the door and wait ~3 seconds so the car does it itself.

wouldn't bother me doing the same on the Gravity.
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The land rover all seems to be much faster. Not sure why.
 
NoseyReporter said:
The land rover all seems to be much faster. Not sure why.
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Nothing is slower or noisier than my R1S. It’s a G1, so it’s constantly trying to adjust the air suspension for no reason with all sorts of clicking, etc that service has insisted for years is “all totally normal”.

But, the car is so high off the ground, I’ve never had to worry about hitting a curb with a door. I just need a rope ladder to get out. 🤣
 
Ron_Burgundy said:
Nothing is slower or noisier than my R1S. It’s a G1, so it’s constantly trying to adjust the air suspension for no reason with all sorts of clicking, etc that service has insisted for years is “all totally normal”.

But, the car is so high off the ground, I’ve never had to worry about hitting a curb with a door. I just need a rope ladder to get out. 🤣
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Mentioned this elsewhere, I had a first-gen R1S for a week in the Colorado mountains, and its suspension creaked, clicked, and groaned so much that it put me off keeping my reservation to get one. I know the second-gen is better, but only to a certain extent.

As for height, that's one downside of the Gravity for me. I've been driving SUVs of a certain elevation for so long that I'll definitely miss that aspect of seeing over others. Honestly, if the "full fat" Range Rover EV were actually available, that's the route I'd likely take.
 
eelpout said:
Mentioned this elsewhere, I had a first-gen R1S for a week in the Colorado mountains, and its suspension creaked, clicked, and groaned so much that it put me off keeping my reservation to get one. I know the second-gen is better, but only to a certain extent.

As for height, that's one downside of the Gravity for me. I've been driving SUVs of a certain elevation for so long that I'll definitely miss that aspect of seeing over others. Honestly, if the "full fat" Range Rover EV were actually available, that's the route I'd likely take.
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Gravity is interesting re: ride height. Obviously lower than our R1S but noticeably higher than our X. I guess you could ride around on a higher mode, but nothing like a rover or R1S. Land Rover issue (to me) is same as Porsche - just absurdly overpriced with options, etc. I fear that will be the case when the EV arrives.
 
Ron_Burgundy said:
Gravity is interesting re: ride height. Obviously lower than our R1S but noticeably higher than our X. I guess you could ride around on a higher mode, but nothing like a rover or R1S. Land Rover issue (to me) is same as Porsche - just absurdly overpriced with options, etc. I fear that will be the case when the EV arrives.
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yep, rumor is the FFRR EV will start around $160K USD. and based on their PHEV demand, I imagine they will sell (or likely lease) every one they make.
 
Ron_Burgundy said:
But, the fact it won’t go to low automatically when I am in park, unbuckle and open door makes it useless for exit.
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Will it adjust based on location - i.e. always set suspension on low at home?
 
Nunya said:
Will it adjust based on location - i.e. always set suspension on low at home?
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I asked my SA about this today.
No, it won't.

That should get added, as it's a great feature not just for arriving at home, but for driving where some roads are steeper/rougher and so you want a higher suspension level, but then to revert to Standard when back on regular roads. I have a drive like this to get to/from my house, but only need to raise the suspension on mountain roads when I've got a bike rack on the back.
 
Xminus6 said:
Is it? When I had Easy Entry set on Low I found the Gravity to be almost too low. I don’t ever remember feeling that way about my X.
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On low, maybe not, but to me, at standard heights, the X feels noticeably lower. It could all be in my head based on seat positioning, etc.
 
Smorgasbord said:
I asked my SA about this today.
No, it won't.

That should get added, as it's a great feature not just for arriving at home, but for driving where some roads are steeper/rougher and so you want a higher suspension level, but then to revert to Standard when back on regular roads. I have a drive like this to get to/from my house, but only need to raise the suspension on mountain roads when I've got a bike rack on the back.
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This would also be great as I know I don’t have a curb the doors will hit at home, or at work, but when we go out, there are curbs, etc everywhere and in “low”, the doors get precariously close.
 
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