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Lots of Gravity inventory in Miami World Center garage.

tmichael said:
Just curious - if they don't offer discounted financing or some other financial incentive, will you keep waiting or go to a competitor? Please don't read anything into my question, good or bad - I just wonder if past pricing has driven the puchase decision or if the product drives the purchase decision. No wrong or right answer and certainly open to other forum member's comments.
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The estimated lease payments between the 2026 and 2027 Gravity have been pretty starkly different. The 2027 has bumped up against $2k/month, and the 2026 had been hundreds less. Right now I see a '27 GGT with a price of $116800, estimated lease $1769/month, while a '26 GGT priced at $116250 has a lease of $1316/month. For me, that's a big difference, and if the $1769 price was the best they were offering me, it'd probably drive me to either wait or consider other vehicles. I get the pricing: they're not going to discount the 2027's until they've cleared the 2026 inventory. And so i expect that in September the lease offers on the 2027's will be more attractive.
 
Bdr100 said:
Totally agree. Compare Gravity to Cadillac Vistiq/Escalade, BMW ix/iX5, Porsche Cayenne EV and it is very competitive and wins in many spec areas. But anyone buying one of those is not worried about the company surviving and still being around 3-5 years from now and their service experience is exponentially better than current Lucid SC experience. Due to reason one (will Lucid surviving) I leased my Gravity which is first time in my life to lease a car. I did not expect item two (SC issues) but after recent poor experiences, I am seriously reconsidering my long term Lucid plans.

Here in Houston which is slowly moving existing ICE drivers to EVs, I have only seen one other Gravity than mine but see tons of the various sized Cadillac EV SUVs on the road. People here are more familiar with and TRUST Cadillac much more than Lucid. Specs don’t mean anything if people don’t trust the survivability and serviceability of the company.
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I'm in the same boat: I've never leased a vehicle before, always purchased, but I plan to lease the Gravity. I view the finance cost as an insurance premium against residual value risk and Lucid corporate health risk.
 
TahoeMichael said:
I'm in the same boat: I've never leased a vehicle before, always purchased, but I plan to lease the Gravity. I view the finance cost as an insurance premium against residual value risk and Lucid corporate health risk.
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Same here. Leasing gives me various options.

Option 1 - Lucid turns things around and Service Centers are fast and reliable, Lucid viability is good, and used Gravity prices are within $5k or so of my residual at end of lease, and Lucid is offering extended warranties. In this case I buy out lease, buy extended warranty and drive it for another 4-5 years. (I would be willing to spend a $5k premium to keep the known car I have vs. risk of unknown used car.)
Option 2 - All conditions as above are met except that for some reason used Gravity’s are significantly below residual buy out amount. In this case (assuming I still love the car) I walk on the leased car and buy used with extended warranty.
Option 3 - Things continue to spiral out of control and Lucid future and car reliability remain uncertain. In this case I say goodbye to Lucid and evaluate the competition.
 
exxxviii said:
I know you did not ask me, but I am actively shopping the Gravity against about every other electric SUV available this year. For me, price is definitely a factor - or I should say value.

BEVs have been discounted 10% to 20% off MSRP for the past few years. That meant that cars like the BMW iX M70 that were similarly priced at $120K actually sold for around $100K. The Macan EV gets discounted 6% to 8%, so a similar MSRP Macan would actually be $10K cheaper than the Gravity. The Gravity is by far the most expensive car I am considering, so the key question I am asking myself is "is the Lucid Tax worth it?"

To justify its ultra premium price, the Gravity should be the leader in every nearly aspect of ownership: Best dealership experience, best driving, best performance, best quality, best dependability, best range, best looking, best pedigree, best audio system, best hands-free ADAS, best tech package, best interior, etc. In other words, a car at a non-discounted $120K price point ought to be darn near perfect in most every way.
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Disagree …..a car price does not quantify perfection . I can buy a Toyota for 30k, so the worst at anything? Worst dealership, worst ride, worst quality ……

It depends on the expectations of the individual buying the car. For you, you expect it to be the best at EVERYTHING. I’m more realistic.
 
gaskiller said:
Disagree …..a car price does not quantify perfection . I can buy a Toyota for 30k, so the worst at anything? Worst dealership, worst ride, worst quality ……

It depends on the expectations of the individual buying the car. For you, you expect it to be the best at EVERYTHING. I’m more realistic.
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Haha. For this price, I expect it to be pretty freaking amazing at almost everything. Is this your first luxury car purchase? Do you have Stockholm Syndrome? Have you never had a BMW 7 Series or M-B S Class? For this price tag, I expect nothing less than ne plus ultra.
 
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They need the midsize now more than ever if they’re relying on Gravity leasing upwards of $1700/mo.
 
TahoeMichael said:
I'm in the same boat: I've never leased a vehicle before, always purchased, but I plan to lease the Gravity. I view the finance cost as an insurance premium against residual value risk and Lucid corporate health risk.
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Also had never leased before our Gravity. Felt like a safer option given the clouds around the company’s future. Am also a shareholder so I’m rooting for them.
 
mike1121 said:
Also had never leased before our Gravity. Felt like a safer option given the clouds around the company’s future. Am also a shareholder so I’m rooting for them.
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Same. I hope to buy my next one - won't get another DE, but am hoping for more refined rear seat motors, captain's chairs, closer panel gaps, etc. by that time. I didn't PPF this lease car and front certainly takes a beating from bugs, stone chips, etc.

Dream Ahead!
 
Bdr100 said:
Same here. Leasing gives me various options.

Option 1 - Lucid turns things around and Service Centers are fast and reliable, Lucid viability is good, and used Gravity prices are within $5k or so of my residual at end of lease, and Lucid is offering extended warranties. In this case I buy out lease, buy extended warranty and drive it for another 4-5 years. (I would be willing to spend a $5k premium to keep the known car I have vs. risk of unknown used car.)
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Option 1 is already not an option. In August 2025, I did a three year lease on 119k MSRP, 7500 annual miles with a residual of 72k. Prices are already in the low 70’s today. They aren’t going to hold there for the next two years.
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FirstLucidFL said:
In August 2025, I did a three year lease on 119k MSRP, 7500 annual miles with a residual of 72k.
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You indirectly answered one of my Lucid leasing curiosities... Is your residual 61%? That is not too shabby. I expected low 50s, so Lucid must be subsidizing BoA up front to boost the residuals that high.
 
FirstLucidFL said:
Option 1 is already not an option. In August 2025, I did a three year lease on 119k MSRP, 7500 annual miles with a residual of 72k. Prices are already in the low 70’s today. They aren’t going to hold there for the next two years.
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2026 Lucid Gravity Grand Touring - 828-hp Dual-Motor AWD, Dynamic Handling and Luxury Seating Packages

This 2026 Lucid Gravity Grand Touring is for sale on Cars & Bids! Auction ends July 27 2026.
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Yes, I realize that option 1 is unlikely. First off, the Gravity you referenced is a pretty low spec model, so not a direct comparison to your car. But still likely that fully loaded used GGTs in 2 years will be selling for low $60k. The stupidity is that BoA does zero negotiation on buy out price. Assuming average resale in 2 years is low 60s, when BoA takes your car back, they will auction it off for low 50s. Financially it makes sense for BoA to offer you to keep your current car for mid 60s and cut their loss by $10k.

My gut feeling is that I might end up with option 3. BMW and Mercedes are making major progress. Will be interesting to see what the GLE EV looks like in another year or so. New C class is getting rave reviews and GLE should upgrade things a bit. Will also most likely have the new NVIDIA Thor chip and be capable of Level 4 ADAS. People on this forum love to trash traditional dealers but my local Mercedes dealer (my other car is a Mercedes ICE convertable) is light years better service experience than local Lucid SC.
 
Bdr100 said:
The stupidity is that BoA does zero negotiation on buy out price. Assuming average resale in 2 years is low 60s, when BoA takes your car back, they will auction it off for low 50s. Financially it makes sense for BoA to offer you to keep your current car for mid 60s and cut their loss by $10k.
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The lessors may have a change of heart over the next few months... Starting early- to mid-2023, most of the BEVs were leased with high incentives and aggressive residuals. Normally industry-wide lease rate is around 20%. However BEVs leased at around 80%, and most of those are severely upside down for the lease holders. Starting now, those cars are rolling off leases and flooding the used car marketplace. This will continue until it peaks in 2028.

The leasing companies are going to lose billions. If they can sell to an owner for a little more than wholesale auction value, they might recover a few hundred million from their losses, but they are all going to get creamed.
 
I see Lucid Air & Gravity on Leasehackr site. I have not compared terms to Lucid's site.
 
Bdr100 said:
Yes, I realize that option 1 is unlikely. First off, the Gravity you referenced is a pretty low spec model, so not a direct comparison to your car. But still likely that fully loaded used GGTs in 2 years will be selling for low $60k. The stupidity is that BoA does zero negotiation on buy out price. Assuming average resale in 2 years is low 60s, when BoA takes your car back, they will auction it off for low 50s. Financially it makes sense for BoA to offer you to keep your current car for mid 60s and cut their loss by $10k.

My gut feeling is that I might end up with option 3. BMW and Mercedes are making major progress. Will be interesting to see what the GLE EV looks like in another year or so. New C class is getting rave reviews and GLE should upgrade things a bit. Will also most likely have the new NVIDIA Thor chip and be capable of Level 4 ADAS. People on this forum love to trash traditional dealers but my local Mercedes dealer (my other car is a Mercedes ICE convertable) is light years better service experience than local Lucid SC.
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Agreed. The engineering advantage that Lucid had over legacy automakers when they launched the Air is shrinking. Couple that with the service center issues and uncertain financial outlook and you have some significant headwinds. As a new car maker one of the first questions prospective buyers will ask is "who are they, and will they be around?" That's not an issue for the other brands you referenced.
 
Man those lease payments were mortgage payments not that long ago…..$2k a month to rent a car. Insanity unless you do it through a business and can write it off.
 
Northpointe said:
Agreed. The engineering advantage that Lucid had over legacy automakers when they launched the Air is shrinking. Couple that with the service center issues and uncertain financial outlook and you have some significant headwinds. As a new car maker one of the first questions prospective buyers will ask is "who are they, and will they be around?" That's not an issue for the other brands you referenced.
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I don’t think any of the legacy automakers are closing the battery tech/efficiency gap. From what I see, they’re just packing in more batteries.

I will be way over my lease allowance for miles so that will impact my decision at the end of the lease, as will company performance.

That said, I will admit I can not stand the UI, dashboard and driver’s area for the legacy manufacturers like BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, etc so unless they change their design, they will never be options for me. Which is fine.

Lucid clearly has a TON of Gravity inventory and the prospect of rising rates won’t help them. They’re going to have to keep 0% financing to move product, I think.

All that said - there’s no vehicle like the Gravity - especially with three legit rows.
 
Leftlane said:
Man those lease payments were mortgage payments not that long ago…..$2k a month to rent a car. Insanity unless you do it through a business and can write it off.
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Even thorugh a business is nonsense... because you still pay for it ;)
 
Ron_Burgundy said:
All that said - there’s no vehicle like the Gravity - especially with three legit rows.
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Check xpeng X9 (I know not available in Us).
Just based on specs I mean
 
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