Looking for opinions on the 21" wheels

[Cosmo Cruz]

The evidence of that is anecdotal.

Absolutely.

We need Sapphire owners to drive from Pittsburgh to Philly.
21" Michelin Pilot Sport

Do it for science.

 

[kort6776]

I have an AGT with 21" wheels on order; I tried to get the wheels swapped but that's no longer something Lucid is doing. I've read a lot on this forum about the tires not holding up well to potholes, and that they're both expensive and, sometimes, unavailable. But how bad are these tires really? Can they not withstand regular road surfaces, or are they only damaged by large potholes that would probably challenge any tire? Would I be safe driving them for the summer, or should I immediately buy 19" wheels upon delivery of the car?

they aren't switching wheels anymore? ask again.

when I booked my AGT it had those 21" wheels which I asked to swap out for the 19" wheels.
the 21" wheels are summer only tires, they are low profile tires which are prone to failure on rough roads.
the 21" tires on the Air lowers the range of the car.
the 19" wheels and tires are more durable, provide a softer ride and better range.

some might say sacrificing a bit of range for style is important to them. but IMHO any low profile tire is prone to failure.

one of my main reasons for buying the Lucid was it's enormous range, I wanted every mile possible from the car so getting the 19" wheels was a priority for me.

 

[TakeDuo]

800 miles on my new front 21”s (from Lucid) and they already have a noticeable bulge

 

[Bobby]

800 miles on my new front 21”s (from Lucid) and they already have a noticeable bulge

Crazy! On my second set with no issues.

 

[PolarAir]

they aren't switching wheels anymore? ask again.

when I booked my AGT it had those 21" wheels which I asked to swap out for the 19" wheels.
the 21" wheels are summer only tires, they are low profile tires which are prone to failure on rough roads.
the 21" tires on the Air lowers the range of the car.
the 19" wheels and tires are more durable, provide a softer ride and better range.

some might say sacrificing a bit of range for style is important to them. but IMHO any low profile tire is prone to failure.

one of my main reasons for buying the Lucid was it's enormous range, I wanted every mile possible from the car so getting the 19" wheels was a priority for me.

I asked multiple times to multiple people. I even told them they could keep the upcharge for the 21" wheels. No dice.

 

[Bobby]

they aren't switching wheels anymore? ask again.

when I booked my AGT it had those 21" wheels which I asked to swap out for the 19" wheels.
the 21" wheels are summer only tires, they are low profile tires which are prone to failure on rough roads.
the 21" tires on the Air lowers the range of the car.
the 19" wheels and tires are more durable, provide a softer ride and better range.

some might say sacrificing a bit of range for style is important to them. but IMHO any low profile tire is prone to failure.

one of my main reasons for buying the Lucid was it's enormous range, I wanted every mile possible from the car so getting the 19" wheels was a priority for me.

It is certainly not for style. Summer tires and lower sidewall heights make the car handle much better.

 

[Cosmo Cruz]

Crazy! On my second set with no issues.

San Diego = roads as smooth as a billiard table. You wouldn't last a DAY in Philly. I used to poo-poo at all the bubble posters, then as I was swapping in the 21"s in for the summer I noticed a small bubble on the right front, that I must have acquired last season. Since I swap my own wheels I check them thoroughly before installing. This bubble was barely detectable. It may have formed over the winter while in storage.

Once installed = what if you get a bubble on the inside? Bobby probably has a bubble on one of his inside - facing tire walls but doesn't know it.
35 series tires should come with an inspection mirror on a pole so you can do a daily check on the inside-facing tire walls.

with a light

I find the 21" Pirelli SMOOTHER and QUIETER than the 19", and much better at everything but cold weather and range. For me, it's worth it to have a tire that will not limit what the car can do. I believe the car's suspension was engineered for the 35 sidewall summer tire. I thought I read in the owner's manual something like: " ... don't be an idiot and use SPRINT mode when you have the 19" tires on" or words to that effect. That alone was enough to make me seek out a set of Lucid summer wheels/tires to swap in when the weather permits.

I run 19" Pirelli A/S at 50 psi and the 21" Pirelli at 45 psi
Result: I have two different cars !

I do like the Michelin Pilot tires, but at $250,000 / set ... I can wait.

 

[skndrni]

San Diego = roads as smooth as a billiard table. You wouldn't last a DAY in Philly. I used to poo-poo at all the bubble posters, then as I was swapping in the 21"s in for the summer I noticed a small bubble on the right front, that I must have acquired last season. Since I swap my own wheels I check them thoroughly before installing. This bubble was barely detectable. It may have formed over the winter while in storage.

Once installed = what if you get a bubble on the inside? Bobby probably has a bubble on one of his inside - facing tire walls but doesn't know it.
35 series tires should come with an inspection mirror on a pole so you can do a daily check on the inside-facing tire walls.
View attachment 20370with a light

I find the 21" Pirelli SMOOTHER and QUIETER than the 19", and much better at everything but cold weather and range. For me, it's worth it to have a tire that will not limit what the car can do. I believe the car's suspension was engineered for the 35 sidewall summer tire. I thought I read in the owner's manual something like: " ... don't be an idiot and use SPRINT mode when you have the 19" tires on" or words to that effect. That alone was enough to make me seek out a set of Lucid summer wheels/tires to swap in when the weather permits.

I run 19" Pirelli A/S at 50 psi and the 21" Pirelli at 45 psi
Result: I have two different cars !

I do like the Michelin Pilot tires, but at $250,000 / set ... I can wait.

$250,000

 

[TakeDuo]

San Diego = roads as smooth as a billiard table. You wouldn't last a DAY in Philly. I used to poo-poo at all the bubble posters, then as I was swapping in the 21"s in for the summer I noticed a small bubble on the right front, that I must have acquired last season. Since I swap my own wheels I check them thoroughly before installing. This bubble was barely detectable. It may have formed over the winter while in storage.

Once installed = what if you get a bubble on the inside? Bobby probably has a bubble on one of his inside - facing tire walls but doesn't know it.
35 series tires should come with an inspection mirror on a pole so you can do a daily check on the inside-facing tire walls.
View attachment 20370with a light

I find the 21" Pirelli SMOOTHER and QUIETER than the 19", and much better at everything but cold weather and range. For me, it's worth it to have a tire that will not limit what the car can do. I believe the car's suspension was engineered for the 35 sidewall summer tire. I thought I read in the owner's manual something like: " ... don't be an idiot and use SPRINT mode when you have the 19" tires on" or words to that effect. That alone was enough to make me seek out a set of Lucid summer wheels/tires to swap in when the weather permits.

I run 19" Pirelli A/S at 50 psi and the 21" Pirelli at 45 psi
Result: I have two different cars !

I do like the Michelin Pilot tires, but at $250,000 / set ... I can wait.

Never considered the INSIDE of the tire

 

[blueice89]

I think 20s are a happy compromise but you will have some wheel gap. Pro tips to hide the gap powder coat it black

 

[Overcharged]

The mobile service tech came over today to swap my winter wheels/tires for the all seasons (19s for 19s)
He mentioned they get a car in the shop pretty much every other day with a problem for the 21s here in Chicago

 

[ggrooms]

23k+ miles on my 21s. no issues. Just put on a new set of tires.

I have 21 inch. Your tire recommendation? I care more about performance vs longevity. I’m guessing Michelins, but you’re def a trusted source with a wealth of Lucid knowledge. Thanks, Greg

 

[Bobby]

I have 21 inch. Your tire recommendation? I care more about performance vs longevity. I’m guessing Michelins, but you’re def a trusted source with a wealth of Lucid knowledge. Thanks, Greg

I just replaced my tires due to wear. I now have a new set of the exact same OEM Pirellis. I have had no issues with them (except one got a screw in it and needed replacement, done free with my Discount Tire cert), but I do admit that I carefully avoid potholes when possible. I am not discounting what others have said about blowouts, perhaps I am just lucky. I also keep the inflation at 46 PSI and check it frequently. I prefer summer tires (no need for all season here in San Diego) and these are the only ones I am aware of for our 21” wheels. I have and enjoy Michelin PS4s on my Aston, and would have purchased those if they were available for this car.

 

[xponents]

I just replaced my tires due to wear. I now have a new set of the exact same OEM Pirellis. I have had no issues with them (except one got a screw in it and needed replacement, done free with my Discount Tire cert), but I do admit that I carefully avoid potholes when possible. I am not discounting what others have said about blowouts, perhaps I am just lucky. I also keep the inflation at 46 PSI and check it frequently. I prefer summer tires (no need for all season here in San Diego) and these are the only ones I am aware of for our 21” wheels. I have and enjoy Michelin PS4s on my Aston, and would have purchased those if they were available for this car.

One question, how frequently? And how often does the tire need to be inflated with more air?

 

[Bobby]

One question, how frequently? And how often does the tire need to be inflated with more air?

Weekly and seldom.

 

[donfenn]

BTW, even 20" Michelins need to be kept filly inflated to avoid issues.. These are very heavy vehicles.. Check your tire pressure every week or two

 

[Steveinarizona]

I have and enjoy Michelin PS4s on my Aston, and would have purchased those if they were available for this car.

I am surprised that Michelin is not making a 4S in the Lucid size. They do make one for my 21s and one of the variants is the Mercedes model which has an HL load rating which for an EV is even better than an XL.

Has anyone reached out to Michelin to see if they have any plans to make the Pilot 4S in the Lucid size?

 

[Paulk]

It is certainly not for style. Summer tires and lower sidewall heights make the car handle much better.

With our brand new to us LGT w 21” tires, it handles like a slot car!

 

[MStark]

I had the 21's in DC and ran over a manhole cover that flattened a tire. Complete blow out. Nothing wrong with the manhole cover; it was recessed into the road probably 4 inches or so. Whatever it was, it gave me this awful feeling - like the crunch went all the way into the frame of the car. I was able to watch the psi in the tire collapse to zero in about 5 seconds.

Good news was that Lucid roadside service was pretty great - they sent me a Lyft and towed my car to the local service center in Tysons Corner.

I'd only had the car about 2 months and already I had hit two curbs, so... when the service center called me, they pointed out the blisters I had on two other tires. So I was looking at replacing 3 tires for about $1500.

I decided to swallow hard and go with the 19's. Aside from the manhole cover (which I'm not taking any blame for), I'm the kind of driver that needs the forgiveness the 19's provide. I drive the car an average of 50 miles a day, all around Maryland. With that kind of mileage, things are going to happen from time to time. I just need things to happen less often.

And truth is, as a matter of style, unless you're sporting the stealth package, my personal feeling is that the 21's just aren't that much more than the 19's in terms of eye-appeal.

 

[Bobby]

I had the 21's in DC and ran over a manhole cover that flattened a tire. Complete blow out. Nothing wrong with the manhole cover; it was recessed into the road probably 4 inches or so. Whatever it was, it gave me this awful feeling - like the crunch went all the way into the frame of the car. I was able to watch the psi in the tire collapse to zero in about 5 seconds.

Good news was that Lucid roadside service was pretty great - they sent me a Lyft and towed my car to the local service center in Tysons Corner.

I'd only had the car about 2 months and already I had hit two curbs, so... when the service center called me, they pointed out the blisters I had on two other tires. So I was looking at replacing 3 tires for about $1500.

I decided to swallow hard and go with the 19's. Aside from the manhole cover (which I'm not taking any blame for), I'm the kind of driver that needs the forgiveness the 19's provide. I drive the car an average of 50 miles a day, all around Maryland. With that kind of mileage, things are going to happen from time to time. I just need things to happen less often.

And truth is, as a matter of style, unless you're sporting the stealth package, my personal feeling is that the 21's just aren't that much more than the 19's in terms of eye-appeal.

I have the 21s with nearly 30,000 miles. I am on my second set of tires and couldn’t be happier. I disagree with the prior post that says it’s about visual appeal. It’s not; it’s about sportier driving. Here in San Diego I don’t worry about winter or freezing temperatures. I prefer a firmer ride with better cornering. It was an easy choice for me.