Long time EV owner looking at Gravity

[adrianco]

I don't know if Porsche's Macan EV has improved ADAS over the Porsche model you are referring to, but it did pretty well on Out of Spec's Hogback Road test:

Hogback — Out of Spec Studios

outofspecstudios.com

I’ve seen that video. I might test drive a Macane E at some point but I wouldn’t buy a new one. They are expensive and Porsche EVs have been depreciating quickly.

 

[hmp10]

I think the current Lucid community is pre-selected to be people who don’t care about or don’t like FSD. There’s also going to be some Tesla FSD users like me who want to see substantial progress on ADAS before we buy a Lucid (or anything else) and I’m prepared to wait a while, and do my research.

I think you mean "self-selected", not "pre-selected", as Lucid cannot and does not attempt to screen who buys their cars or who posts about them.

You say you will only consider a vehicle that has what you perceive to be the same ADAS performance levels as Tesla's FSD. Lucids don't have that and won't for some time, if ever. Lucid is more focused on things that Tesla is not: driving and handling dynamics, ride and noise characteristics, space utilization, comfort, luxury, structural solidity. Personally, I hope that remains the case.

Lucid will continue to improve the ability of their cars to relieve drivers of tedium on certain kinds of trips, but I hope they never become a company that decides to ignore people who actually want to enjoy driving their cars.

Teslas are not for everyone. Nor are Lucids. We all need choices.

 

[adrianco]

Yes, i meant self-selected.

However I don’t expect Lucid to match FSD any time soon. I watched Tesla develop AutoPilot and FSD over the last 5 years. I just want to see good regular progress in ADAS functionality. It should be easier and faster to develop ADAS now, hardware is much more powerful, the AI techniques are better known and the training data is easier to come by.

I drive rental Polestar 2 and similar cars frequently and use their non-geo-locked lane following a lot of the time. Hopefully that restriction goes away soon for Lucid.

 

[Lucken]

I’ve watched the Out Of Spec reviews of Rivian and Lucid and Tesla doing their Hogback Challenge. They didn’t even touch the steering wheel of the Tesla for the entire trip out and back. That’s also our experience, I drive my Tesla when parking at the start or end of a trip or when there’s a fun twisty road. We’ve watched it get better and learned how to manage it over the last 5 years and my wife also uses FSD for most of her trips.

I think the current Lucid community is pre-selected to be people who don’t care about or don’t like FSD. There’s also going to be some Tesla FSD users like me who want to see substantial progress on ADAS before we buy a Lucid (or anything else) and I’m prepared to wait a while, and do my research.

Call me crazy, but if I love how a car drives and handles, why would I want someone else or a computer driving the car for me? A Toyota Camry maybe, a Lucid, no thanks, I’ll drive it myself.

 

[Batteryman]

For now, we don’t need another car. We have an old SUV that we don’t use much and the Model 3 replacement would replace both. I’m waiting for Gravity to be ready for test drives, I’ve test driven an Air and have lots of miles in Model S. Gravity is bigger than I’d like, and maybe later this year the R2 could be shipping. The mid-size Lucid is another year out….

R2 in mid 2026, lucid midsize late 2026

 

[adrianco]

Call me crazy, but if I love how a car drives and handles, why would I want someone else or a computer driving the car for me? A Toyota Camry maybe, a Lucid, no thanks, I’ll drive it myself.

Sitting in a traffic jam creeping along on autopilot was the thing that got me started in a friends Model S, about 8 years ago. There’s plenty of “follow the car in front” boring driving cases that ADAS is better than humans at already.

I’m driving a track day at Laguna Seca on Friday in my Lotus Elise, I know how to have fun driving as well…

 

[RoninHard]

Lucid announced they expect hands free driving will be available later this year on their earnings call yesterday.