Locked out of Gravity -

[slidingmike]

Turn you should contact service to get it fixed. Eventually....

Looks like you have an Air, not a Gravity. Your understanding of how the Gravity door handles work is aspirational, not reality!

 

[Saksak]

Have you been locked out of your Lucid Gravity with the key fob and key card and phone in the vehicle? […] Tonight was the second instance where I was locked out of my Gravity, but this time my kids were inside.

This is a scary situation, for sure, and maybe software can help. The most important thing, though, is to know this can happen and endeavor to never put ourselves in the same situation again.

Three years ago, I locked myself out of my car with the keys in the car - a rental ICE car with real keys that go into the ignition. I left the keys on the seat while grabbing something, got out, pressed the lock button, and shut the door. I had to pay for a locksmith, missed my flight, spent an extra night at a hotel, and paid for the upcharge for a last minute flight the next day. I was extremely upset - not at my car, but at myself.

If it had been a hot summer day with kids inside, I’d gladly break the window, pay for the repairs, and be thankful that I kept my kids safe. I’d do the same with my Gravity and not expect it to automatically save me if I locked myself out.

Self-locking is a great convenience and making automation idiot-proof should always be a part of the design. However, sometimes automation can’t save us from our own mistakes.

BTW, I always carry my key card along with my Driver’s license and credit card because:

• Key fob batteries can die.
• Could end up in a no cell phone signal area.
• Phone can be dropped & broken, stolen, dead battery, etc.

 

[Saksak]

If a vehicle offers auto lock, it should never lock with a weighted car seat and 5 year old in it, Lucid or not. I’m not saying I can’t chose to not use it. The point, if you’re not too obtuse to understand, is a manufacturer should never be permitted to put anyone in that situation, and regularly.

What about having a bag of groceries or gym bag in the seat? We’re not at the point of being able to differentiate what’s in the seat.

Also, please refrain from personal attacks. It’s against forum rules.

 

[Miami_Lucid_Man]

What about having a bag of groceries or gym bag in the seat? We’re not at the point of being able to differentiate what’s in the seat.

Also, please refrain from personal attacks. It’s against forum rules.

The seatbelt is engaged.

 

[fadooly]

I think the solution is extremely simple

take anyone's phone, download Lucid App and open it remotely

only few cars in the world offer you so many options to open; Fob (x2), card (x2) and App (xhow many cellphones around you)


+tip, call your partner and let him open the car from the App he has already downloaded

 

[prgarg]

I think the solution is extremely simple

take anyone's phone, download Lucid App and open it remotely

only few cars in the world offer you so many options to open; Fob (x2), card (x2) and App (xhow many cellphones around you)


+tip, call your partner and let him open the car from the App he has already downloaded

Not always so simple...

- You could be in an area with bad cell phone coverage (many here in the US), an underground parking garage, etc
- You may not have anyone around you to borrow a cell phone
- You imply that every Lucid owner needs to have a partner (...ok, I know this one is a stretch )

 

[ke2]

question, does the gravity detect when the key fob battery is low and warn you? My Prius does this.

 

[prgarg]

question, does the gravity detect when the key fob battery is low and warn you? My Prius does this.

Don't know how well it works, but yes, it does

 

[socktucker]

question, does the gravity detect when the key fob battery is low and warn you? My Prius does this.

my loaner gravity regularly detected my keyfob as being entirely missing, while I was in the car or driving. My Air does to. So...maybe?

 

[dbsb3233]

If there's much of a chance of leaving my fob inside the car AND my keycard inside the car AND my cellphone (with the app) inside the car AND leaving a child or pet inside the car all at the same time, I think I'd just keep walkaway lock turned off. That's a lot of failsafes to all fail at the same time.

But something still seems odd. Is it really walkaway lock that locked the car here, or some other setting? Walkaway lock literally requires walking away with the fob (locks when it gets far enough distance from the car). If the fob is inside the car, that shouldn't be walkaway lock. Did proximity detection just get screwed up, or is it another setting that's auto-locking the car when the door closed?

 

[RandomDesign]

But something still seems odd. Is it really walkaway lock that locked the car here, or some other setting? Walkaway lock literally requires walking away with the fob (locks when it gets far enough distance from the car). If the fob is inside the car, that shouldn't be walkaway lock. Did proximity detection just get screwed up, or is it another setting that's auto-locking the car when the door closed?

If it locked with the key in proximity the car wasn't detecting it. Either the fob was asleep or in a bag or something blocking the signal.

 

[Aka-none]

The seatbelt is engaged.

I put hot food from the Chinese restaurant and buckle the bag to keep it from sliding around
I buckle the dog in the back seat but he still tends to shift weight around , I don’t buckle all the seatbelts.
No people in either case
My Audi would lock with the key inside but my wife’s Kia doesn’t. I only made that error once.
Just stuff to think about

 

[dbsb3233]

If it locked with the key in proximity the car wasn't detecting it. Either the fob was asleep or in a bag or something blocking the signal.

So if there's no fob detected at all, it will lock when the door closes? I would think walkaway lock would only trigger when it actually detects the fob signal first (when the door closes) and then subsequently loses it (i.e. gets far enough distance away).

If it's locking the door when not even detecting a fob at all, that seems like it's not working right. All the more reason to turn walkaway lock off completely until that gets fixed.

 

[dbsb3233]

The seatbelt is engaged.

Don't many people often leave the car seat buckled in full-time? Can the seat sensor really tell the difference between an empty car seat and one with a baby in it? Car seats vary a lot in weight.

 

[Miami_Lucid_Man]

Don't many people often leave the car seat buckled in full-time? Can the seat sensor really tell the difference between an empty car seat and one with a baby in it? Car seats vary a lot in weight.

Not that I'm aware?

My point is, even with an auto lock function engaged, a vehicle should not lock with a Graco seat and a 5 year old in it, all buckled in. But really more than that, it certainly shouldn't do it in the time I quickly exit the drivers seat and walk around the car to the passenger rear to get her out. Are there workarounds? Yes. Can I leave the drivers door open? Yes. Can I disable auto lock and hope I remember to lock it as I walk away, yes. That's beside the point I'm trying to make.

 

[Aka-none]

Don't many people often leave the car seat buckled in full-time? Can the seat sensor really tell the difference between an empty car seat and one with a baby in it? Car seats vary a lot in weight.

Yes baby seats and strollers are now systems so part would remain in the car, on purpose.

 

[Pierre-CH]

not sure if this is reproducible. My wife left the car once with her key inside. The Lucid does lock after a while (sounds a loud alarm first and ask if one is still inside). She managed to open the trunk (not the doors) and could crawl inside to retrieve her bag and the key. The trunk has a "real" utton to open so maybe it works better than just touching the handles? From the trunk you can flip the back seats and get inside. We never tried to reproduce this so not sure if it is a solution

 

[dbsb3233]

Not that I'm aware?

My point is, even with an auto lock function engaged, a vehicle should not lock with a Graco seat and a 5 year old in it, all buckled in. But really more than that, it certainly shouldn't do it in the time I quickly exit the drivers seat and walk around the car to the passenger rear to get her out. Are there workarounds? Yes. Can I leave the drivers door open? Yes. Can I disable auto lock and hope I remember to lock it as I walk away, yes. That's beside the point I'm trying to make.

It shouldn't auto-lock that quickly when still standing next to the car, I'd agree. That's an issue. But I don't think a car can dependably tell whether there's a baby in the car carrier or not. I see cars with unoccupied baby carriers already strapped in rather commonly.

 

[L-Dude]

If there's much of a chance of leaving my fob inside the car AND my keycard inside the car AND my cellphone (with the app) inside the car AND leaving a child or pet inside the car all at the same time, I think I'd just keep walkaway lock turned off. That's a lot of failsafes to all fail at the same time.

This is always running through my head when reading threads like these.

 

[Leftlane]

I think the solution is extremely simple

take anyone's phone, download Lucid App and open it remotely

only few cars in the world offer you so many options to open; Fob (x2), card (x2) and App (xhow many cellphones around you)


+tip, call your partner and let him open the car from the App he has already downloaded

Yeah - if you aren’t stranded and alone when this happens, then walking up to strangers and asking to download an app onto their phone so you can unlock your car really does sound like something a mom by herself might like to do.

How about holding Lucid responsible for not letting this happen in the first place? That sounds like a solution that is “extremely simple”.