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segbrk said:
It's not as simple as that. Yes I also want it to stay locked if the lock button was pressed while inside the car, or if the car is in Drive / was in Drive and no doors have been opened yet. Otherwise I do want it to unlock from the outside, because I'm outside. It'd be great if it had a keypad or something as additional confirmation, but I'd settle for this.
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I mean the easiest thing also is that since people were in the car, the occupancy sensor should detect and unlock after like 10 minutes...
 
Miami_Lucid_Man said:
I know I could do that but the point is why should I have to in the first place? Auto lock is meant to prevent theft. So your solution is to disable that so the car doesn’t lock my kid inside it? Think about what you’re saying here.
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I managed to always lock my car for decades before auto locking was a thing. It's not rocket science.
 
Miami_Lucid_Man said:
I know I could do that but the point is why should I have to in the first place? Auto lock is meant to prevent theft. So your solution is to disable that so the car doesn’t lock my kid inside it? Think about what you’re saying here.
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I do agree, though, that there is some tension here with the way it's all implemented that wasn't there with slightly older cars. With my previous car, a Highlander, I could lock the whole car from the front door, passenger door, or rear hatch just by pressing a button on the outside, without having to pull my keyfob out of my pocket.

That really should work with this car, too: just press the door handle down to lock the car (and again to unlock). Unfortunately, neither of these two features work with my vehicle, on any lock setting. I've heard they work for some people, but it's clearly an area that needs a software fix to be reliable and consistent.

Until that happens, I either have to fish my keyfob out of my pocket and find the lock button, or rely on autolock to do it for me.
 
slidingmike said:
Agree, there is some tension here with the way it's all implemented that wasn't there with slightly older cars. With my previous car, a Highlander, I could lock the whole car from the front door, passenger door, or rear hatch just by pressing a button on the outside, without having to pull my keyfob out of my pocket.

That really should work with this car, too: just press the door handle down to lock the car (and again to unlock). Unfortunately, neither of these two features work with my vehicle, on any lock setting. I've heard they work for some people, but it's clearly an area that needs a software fix to be reliable and consistent.

Until that happens, I either have to fish my keyfob out of my pocket and find the lock button, or rely on autolock to do it for me.
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You know you can just push in any of the handles to lock the car, right?
 
gaskiller said:
There should be a delay to auto lock after getting out. Clearly a software bug.
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You may not like the implementation but that doesn’t make it a bug.
 
Happened to me the day after I picked up the Gravity. Went to Costco and after loading groceries, closed the trunk with phone and wallet inside the car. The alarm got triggered, don’t know why. Pushing on the door handle did nothing. No key fob with me. Fortunately it was one of the only times in the recent past my wife went with me. Installed the app on her phone (which I was planning to do anyway) and unlocked the car. Phew. Lesson learned.
 
Miami_Lucid_Man said:
Yes but it shouldn’t be so sensitive so as to lock before you walk full stride around the car to open the door to get your kid out. I had two Teslas and that never happened.

Also to those who say just press the door handle, all that does is smoosh them in 9 out of 10 times. So I’m standing there with a kid in a locked car and smooshed in handles. That hasn’t worked reliably ina. Long time for me if ever.
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Depends on how long you take. 1 minute should be good enough time. Or you can just delete autolock and manually lock like a regular car with normal door handles. How we have been spoiled!
 
slidingmike said:
I do agree, though, that there is some tension here with the way it's all implemented that wasn't there with slightly older cars. With my previous car, a Highlander, I could lock the whole car from the front door, passenger door, or rear hatch just by pressing a button on the outside, without having to pull my keyfob out of my pocket.

That really should work with this car, too: just press the door handle down to lock the car (and again to unlock). Unfortunately, neither of these two features work with my vehicle, on any lock setting. I've heard they work for some people, but it's clearly an area that needs a software fix to be reliable and consistent.

Until that happens, I either have to fish my keyfob out of my pocket and find the lock button, or rely on autolock to do it for me.
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or use app on your phone?
 
Miami_Lucid_Man said:
I know I could do that but the point is why should I have to in the first place? Auto lock is meant to prevent theft. So your solution is to disable that so the car doesn’t lock my kid inside it? Think about what you’re saying here.
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No, you think about what you're saying here: you are letting the car decide when it is okay to lock itself, rather than you choosing when it should be locked. There are many situations where you wouldn't want the car to lock on its own, as proven by numerous comments in this thread.
 
amanda said:
So I got out of the car and close the door, because we park in the garage, there isn’t much space and it’s necessary and natural in order to move around the vehicle.

1. I don’t believe I pressed the door handle as I shut the door, but that is quite possibly what triggered the car to lock.

2. I did press the door handles to try to unlock the car after it locked, but it did not work for me to unlock the vehicle, I believe because the keys were inside.

3. Every other vehicle with a proximity detected key will not lock when it detects the key in the car after you exit the car. This problem is very unique to Lucid.

I hear you all on being careful to keep my key fob or key card on my person at all times, but I must say that is not a foolproof solution - I actually have been paranoid and doing that (and only trusting the fob and keeping it in my pocket, and leaving the windows down or door open to prevent getting locked out) because this is the second time this has happened to me, and it scared the **** out of me the first time.

But look, I am a mom with two little ones, often solo with them, and it is common practice to keep keys in a safe place like a purse or diaper bag which ends up in the back of the vehicle.

It should not be possible for this to happen. I am so convinced of this because of the glaringly obvious safety issue that I looked for an NHTSA requirement for vehicle manufacturers - I still cannot believe one doesn’t exist, but according to Google they leave it up to the manufacturer when it comes to proximity keys. So that is one thing on my to do list now, to contact the NHTSA.

The first lock out experience I had was with my phone and the fob was in the car: it should not be possible that I could not unlock my car with my phone after locking it with my phone (when I was locked out the first time, no kid in the car because I would never leave my kid in the car and lock it).

But you can imagine a parent putting a shopping cart away at a grocery store and the kids are in the car feet away, but the car locks you out?
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Just fyi
This is exactly how my Audi behaved
 
I don't want auto-lock on my cars ever. I'll lock the doors when I want the doors locked period. I also don't use auto-unlock. I just push the handle in. Just proves each of us has their own preferences in this regard and manufacturers should give us all possible choice and combinations of lock and unlock. Children should never end up being locked in a car you can't open. Cars should be built with the fail-safe option being to open. And it's not just Lucid that has this problem by any means.
 
illopp00 said:
I mean the easiest thing also is that since people were in the car, the occupancy sensor should detect and unlock after like 10 minutes...
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??? With the kiddies in the car? And you’re off trying to get to an alternative key?
Or more likely it’s actually puppy in the car
 
Aka-none said:
??? With the kiddies in the car? And you’re off trying to get to an alternative key?
Or more likely it’s actually puppy in the car
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How far are you away from this vehicle once you have locked yourself out with kids in the car? The car knows it's location, knows all the fobs and app are next to it, its not just randomly unlocking....
 
Mmm, I forgot me key fob in my car and it locked. Opened without a problem when pressing door. Albeit, I went back after 10 minutes.

Best would be, those with small kids , don’t use auto lock.
 
L-Dude said:
No, you think about what you're saying here: you are letting the car decide when it is okay to lock itself, rather than you choosing when it should be locked. There are many situations where you wouldn't want the car to lock on its own, as proven by numerous comments in this
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L-Dude said:
No, you think about what you're saying here: you are letting the car decide when it is okay to lock itself, rather than you choosing when it should be locked. There are many situations where you wouldn't want the car to lock on its own, as proven by numerous comments in this thread.
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If a vehicle offers auto lock, it should never lock with a weighted car seat and 5 year old in it, Lucid or not. I’m not saying I can’t chose to not use it. The point, if you’re not too obtuse to understand, is a manufacturer should never be permitted to put anyone in that situation, and regularly.
 
Every feature is not for every one. EVs don’t necessarily work for everyone. Self driving doesn’t necessarily work for everyone. One pedal driving doesn’t necessarily work for everyone. It all comes with risks/rewards. Yes, the feature should work properly. But it sounds like the risk is too high and has happened more than once so disable the auto lock feature and your car will be locked and unlocked when you give it the command and not any other time. The hope going forward that the feature is addressed to where you can feel comfortable with it’s reliability.
 
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