Is The 2027 Air Announcement Imminent?

[DBV]

That would be a very substantial re-engineering effort for the Air, from every department. Those engineers must finish midsize instead.

I disagree. They need to work on all lines. There is no reason they can’t be more consistent on all their lines, just as Tesla has. By doing that, even with software, that is the only way they will ever be able to turn a profit. Totally agree with what ScottLucid posted above. You can’t develop one car and then just forget about it while you develop new ones, as a new company, unless you just plan on discontinuing it or replacing it with a new one. Still need consistency across the line. That is a no brainer.

 

[DeaneG]

I disagree. They need to work on all lines. There is no reason they can’t be more consistent on all their lines, just as Tesla has. By doing that, even with software, that is the only way they will ever be able to turn a profit. Totally agree with what ScottLucid posted above. You can’t develop one car and then just forget about it while you develop new ones, as a new company, unless you just plan on discontinuing it or replacing it with a new one. Still need consistency across the line. That is a no brainer.

Depends on available resources.
The same reason that most of us don't knock down our homes every few years and build new ones.

 

[Need4Sleep]

I disagree. They need to work on all lines. There is no reason they can’t be more consistent on all their lines, just as Tesla has. By doing that, even with software, that is the only way they will ever be able to turn a profit. Totally agree with what ScottLucid posted above. You can’t develop one car and then just forget about it while you develop new ones, as a new company, unless you just plan on discontinuing it or replacing it with a new one. Still need consistency across the line. That is a no brainer.

And it took Tesla years after the Model 3 and Model Y launch before they brought updates to the Model S and Model X.

And Lucid's midsize platform spans 3 vehicles. And they also have their commitments for their robotaxi retrofits for Uber. And also their developments for a midsize-based ground-up robotaxi. Their resources are limited and they can only allocate so much

 

[DBV]

And it took Tesla years after the Model 3 and Model Y launch before they brought updates to the Model S and Model X.

Agree, but as is always stated this is a totally different climate, as tons of EV strong competitors that software wise like BMW, etc are ahead of the curve with consistent software, etc. BMW is going to crush it with their new EV’s and so will others, I think they already are with their new iX3.

The Tesla comparison is so antiquated at this point and no longer a valid point. Any company thinking that way will still work with current technology will not make it.

And a car is certainly not a house! Changes much faster. LOL.

 

[FEH72]

Just noticed that the Air online configurator isn’t taking custom orders for the 2026 Air vehicles anymore. Also, it seems lease deals are improving for June, so they’re trying to clear 2026 inventory.
Is the 2027 Air model getting announced soon?
I have low expectations to be honest, given their focus on addressing issues with the Gravity and the push for midsize, so the Air isn’t supposed to get too much love, unless they can surprise us with something unexpected. Get your poll votes in!

The 2027 Air have already been released. Just a couple of days ago.

 

[Need4Sleep]

Agree, but as is always stated this is a totally different climate, as tons of EV strong competitors that software wise like BMW, etc are ahead of the curve with consistent software, etc. BMW is going to crush it with their new EV’s and so will others, I think they already are with their new iX3.

The Tesla comparison is so antiquated at this point and no longer a valid point. Any company thinking that way will still work with current technology will not make it.

What makes you think Lucid is slacking on their development?

Of course they're giving everything they've got to their projects. But they don't have a million engineers they can freely allocate, nor is it possible to pluck one engineer from a project and throw them to another and expect them to hit the ground running. It takes time for them to get acclimated to new projects.

And of course Lucid is aware of competitors like the BMW iX3, Rivian R2, Volvo EX60, Tesla Model Y, etc. That's why they're focusing so hard on the midsize platform.

 

[Mat]

I’ve been trying to figure out what actually changed on the 2027 Air. From what I can find, it looks like a pretty minor model-year update rather than a major hardware change. Prices stay the same: Pure $70,900, Touring $79,900, GT $114,900 and Sapphire $249,000. The Touring is still 620 hp/3.4 sec 0-60, and the GT is still 819 hp/3.0 sec. Lucid is showing up to 431 miles for the Touring and 512 for the GT. The main changes I’m seeing are simplified options, especially on the Pure, plus a new Stealth & Sound package ($4,500 with 19s or $6,250 with 20s). I haven’t found anything indicating new battery architecture, a major charging change, or the Gravity’s DreamDrive 2 hardware. So unless there’s something Lucid hasn’t announced yet, 2027 looks much more like packaging/option changes than a major update. Am I missing anything?

https://****************.com/lucid/...e-entry-trims-options/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Lucid unveils its 2027 Air EV lineup with a new Stealth package

Lucid unveiled its 2027 Air lineup with streamlined options and a new $6,250 Stealth & Sound Package, while holding prices flat across all four trims.

electrek.co

Have a used Red Stealth 2025 AGT coming my way now. Can't wait!

 

[midelectric]

The decontenting of the Pure is unfortunate. Lucid should emphasize the different driving characters of the Air trim levels to suit different drivers rather than treating the Pure as an entry level option. It drives with a lighter, more sporting feel, with more dramatic power delivery and is Lucid's most efficient vehicle. The other trim levels offer more options but feel heavier and, with the glass roof, are louder inside. They're also faster, but don't necessarily feel that way as the power delivery is so linear. What I'd love to see is Lucid playing to the Pure's strengths and offering something like an M-sport package on the Pure. Put in seats with adjustable side bolsters (like I really wish mine had), some lighter body panels, and some aero aids to magnify its strengths and you'd have a compelling argument to lure buyers away from an i5

 

[Northpointe]

I disagree. They need to work on all lines. There is no reason they can’t be more consistent on all their lines, just as Tesla has. By doing that, even with software, that is the only way they will ever be able to turn a profit. Totally agree with what ScottLucid posted above. You can’t develop one car and then just forget about it while you develop new ones, as a new company, unless you just plan on discontinuing it or replacing it with a new one. Still need consistency across the line. That is a no brainer.

For this to make sense you would have to believe that there's a path to profitability for the Air after sinking all of these development and engineering costs into it. Given the current economics I don't see it. The best the company can do is minimize losses on a per unit basis until they can deliver the mid-size at scale. The reality is that the large sedan is a shrinking category and one that would be hard to justify putting significant resources into. For better or worse the Air will likely stay largely as is until the company decides to sunset it.

 

[donfenn]

For this to make sense you would have to believe that there's a path to profitability for the Air after sinking all of these development and engineering costs into it. Given the current economics I don't see it. The best the company can do is minimize losses on a per unit basis until they can deliver the mid-size at scale. The reality is that the large sedan is a shrinking category and one that would be hard to justify putting significant resources into. For better or worse the Air will likely stay largely as is until the company decides to sunset it.

Exactly. I don’t see Lucid investing heavily to re-engineer the current Air or retrofit it with Gravity-based technology and features. The company appears to be moving into a leaner operating mode—controlling costs, simplifying production and concentrating its resources on the midsize platform.

I suspect the Air will continue largely in its present form for at least another year or two, with modest updates and simplified packages. If Lucid survives and reaches the next stage, its eventual replacement may be something quite different—and perhaps not another large sedan.

For now, the Air Pure also serves as Lucid’s entry-level price leader, so the company presumably wants to put as many of them on the road as it reasonably can. The new Stealth and Sound package appears to be the primary step-up offering, with fewer stand-alone options and less overlap between trims.

 

[Need4Sleep]

Exactly. I don’t see Lucid investing heavily to re-engineer the current Air or retrofit it with Gravity-based technology and features. The company appears to be moving into a leaner operating mode—controlling costs, simplifying production and concentrating its resources on the midsize platform.

I suspect the Air will continue largely in its present form for at least another year or two, with modest updates and simplified packages. If Lucid survives and reaches the next stage, its eventual replacement may be something quite different—and perhaps not another large sedan.

For now, the Air Pure also serves as Lucid’s entry-level price leader, so the company presumably wants to put as many of them on the road as it reasonably can. The new Stealth and Sound package appears to be the primary step-up offering, with fewer stand-alone options and less overlap between trims.

I doubt Lucid would kill the Air or Gravity platforms outright. The Air on its own taught them a lot about efficiency and power density, and the Pure and Air Sapphire allowed them to sweat over the driving dynamics. Gravity allowed them to test these learnings on taller and heavier form factors. These learnings then influenced the design phase of midsize.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Air and Gravity would be maintained as like moonshot R&D projects to push ideas further

 

[Bobby]

I doubt Lucid would kill the Air or Gravity platforms outright. The Air on its own taught them a lot about efficiency and power density, and the Pure and Air Sapphire allowed them to sweat over the driving dynamics. Gravity allowed them to test these learnings on taller and heavier form factors. These learnings then influenced the design phase of midsize.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Air and Gravity would be maintained as like moonshot R&D projects to push ideas further

I hope you're right but fear you are incorrect. Lucid has followed the Tesla playbook pretty closely. We were all surprised when they killed off the Model S.

 

[The_Don]

I hope you're right but fear you are incorrect. Lucid has followed the Tesla playbook pretty closely. We were all surprised when they killed off the Model S.

I think there will always be demand for a seven-seater SUV. A large sedan, perhaps less so. I'd expect they ultimately update the Gravity down the line so that it's essentially an extended version of the midsize platform to keep costs down. So somewhat like Tesla's MYL, but hopefully with much better execution because that car is a joke....

 

[donfenn]

I hope you're right but fear you are incorrect. Lucid has followed the Tesla playbook pretty closely. We were all surprised when they killed off the Model S.

Big difference is that Tesla has other big sellers and the S was lagging in sales... even fewer than the Air in this final run.. I don't think the new Lucid management team is using the Lucid playbook from here forward..

 

[borski]

You'd think it would be cheaper to simply standardize most of the options and just have a few extras you can add rather than decontenting the lower trim models. No massage seats available on the Touring is terrible. It is one of their best options IMO. SO many weird decisions made by this company. How are the top screens not the same in the Gravity and Air now? Why are the interior materials not the same in both models? Why are so many spec cars made without DDPro and Surreal Sound Pro? Here is what I would do if I were them. Why did they not do these things below from the start???

• Use the Gravity screen/infotainment architecture across Lucid models: Same 34" OLED, processor, HUD, Pilot Panel and software, with different dashboard styling for Air.
• Standardize interior materials: Use the same leather/PurLuxe, woods, suede, carpeting and trim suppliers across Air, Gravity and midsize models; differentiate through colors and combinations.
• Share expensive hidden components: Common seat motors/massage systems, audio electronics, door hardware, steering-wheel components and ADAS sensors/computers.
• Move Air to Gravity’s newer electrical/charging architecture at its next major refresh, including power electronics, charging hardware and related controllers.
• Reduce configurations and parts: Fewer unique seats, wheels, trims and option combinations would lower purchasing, inventory and manufacturing costs.

Basically: one common Lucid technology/component platform underneath, with Air, Gravity and midsize models looking and driving differently on top.

“Simply”

 

[new owner]

You'd think it would be cheaper to simply standardize most of the options and just have a few extras you can add rather than decontenting the lower trim models. No massage seats available on the Touring is terrible. It is one of their best options IMO. SO many weird decisions made by this company. How are the top screens not the same in the Gravity and Air now? Why are the interior materials not the same in both models? Why are so many spec cars made without DDPro and Surreal Sound Pro? Here is what I would do if I were them. Why did they not do these things below from the start???

• Use the Gravity screen/infotainment architecture across Lucid models: Same 34" OLED, processor, HUD, Pilot Panel and software, with different dashboard styling for Air.
• Standardize interior materials: Use the same leather/PurLuxe, woods, suede, carpeting and trim suppliers across Air, Gravity and midsize models; differentiate through colors and combinations.
• Share expensive hidden components: Common seat motors/massage systems, audio electronics, door hardware, steering-wheel components and ADAS sensors/computers.
• Move Air to Gravity’s newer electrical/charging architecture at its next major refresh, including power electronics, charging hardware and related controllers.
• Reduce configurations and parts: Fewer unique seats, wheels, trims and option combinations would lower purchasing, inventory and manufacturing costs.

Basically: one common Lucid technology/component platform underneath, with Air, Gravity and midsize models looking and driving differently on top.

No secret ; This is the model for most vibrant Auto manufacturers. ie Toyota

 

[Northpointe]

No secret ; This is the model for most vibrant Auto manufacturers. ie Toyota

Well I would hope so. Toyota has an 85 year head start and sells over 60 models globally. Not exactly apples and oranges.

 

[donfenn]

Realistically, there is no simple way to retrofit Gravity platform and gear to Air.. This would require serious redesign and revisions at a very high cost. They are not Toyota, and cannot afford to do this. They also don't sell enough Airs to warrant this investment when they are on a leaned-down operations mode, with a focus on Cosmos.

No secret ; This is the model for most vibrant Auto manufacturers. ie Toyota

Realistically, there’s no simple way to retrofit Gravity-platform hardware and technology into the Air. It would require substantial redesign, re-engineering, validation, and production changes—all at a very high cost. Lucid isn’t Toyota; it simply doesn’t have the scale or resources to justify that kind of investment in a relatively low-volume model. With the company operating leaner and directing its engineering and capital toward Cosmos, it’s hard to see a business case for a major rework of the current Air.

The Air will probably continue to receive incremental improvements, but expecting Lucid to substantially re-engineer it around Gravity hardware doesn’t seem realistic. I still think its a really great car. My three years have been good, and I will be getting another as my lease is up.

 

[new owner]

The Air is indeed a special car especially for long range cruising

 

[illopp00]

I disagree. They need to work on all lines. There is no reason they can’t be more consistent on all their lines, just as Tesla has. By doing that, even with software, that is the only way they will ever be able to turn a profit. Totally agree with what ScottLucid posted above. You can’t develop one car and then just forget about it while you develop new ones, as a new company, unless you just plan on discontinuing it or replacing it with a new one. Still need consistency across the line. That is a no brainer.

Well look at how Tesla handled the S and X refreshes while they were redoing the Highland M3, Juniper MY and Cybertruck. Not much added. Air is due for a decent 5 year mid cycle refresh, but they need to be sure that its going to actually increase sales and make a difference. I think in 6 months there will be a much better picture on mid size and the EV market to make more changes...