In the decision making stage Gravity Touring lease — GT vs Touring + DreamDrive 2 Pro?

[pjdcorp]

I commuted over Hwy 17 for a year in the late 90s.

You forgot to mention the concrete Jersey wall mere inches from your car, and the turns with sudden significant off-camber dips, which were followed by the wall turning black and gouges in the asphalt from all the cars losing control and flipping over because of it.

Oh and it rains a lot and gets foggy at night, making the road even slicker.

If I recall correctly, in the main 11-ish mile section of it that goes over the actual mountain, there were 9 fatal accidents during the 1 year I was driving it daily.

It's one of the main reasons I've never been afraid of driving any road I've encountered since.

You ever try the interborough parkway ( I use "parkway" guardedly) in NYC ? That's an adventure. That road was designed when the Model T was the only car sold in America & cars couldn't go much faster than a healthy horse drading a wagon train Very, very exciting..............

 

[doubletwist]

You ever try the interborough parkway ( I use "parkway" guardedly) in NYC ? That's an adventure. That road was designed when the Model T was the only car sold in America & cars couldn't go much faster than a healthy horse drading a wagon train Very, very exciting..............

I've driven in NYC a few times, but other than going through the tunnels and over some bridges to/from NJ, I don't recall which highways there I've driven on.

 

[pjdcorp]

I've driven in NYC a few times, but other than going through the tunnels and over some bridges to/from NJ, I don't recall which highways there I've driven on.

If you'd driven the Interborough between Queens & Brooklyn, and lived to tell about it, you'd remember it. And would avoid it for the rest of your natural life

 

[illopp00]

Related question: I understand all Gravitys come with Air suspension. Do we know how high (inches?) both trims can get on the highest suspension setting? My in laws are looking to get one but they need to be able to lift it high enough to fit a step up at the rear end of their garage.

They both go up in 5 different heights from 5.5 in to 9.3 in or something like that. All the Gravities I test drove have DHP and the same UI for Air Suspension, my car doesn't have DHP. You can't drive more than 15 mph in highest setting. Doesn't let you drive in the lowest either, it just auto raises.

 

[mfdutra]

It's so ugly at the highest setting. It looks like those minivans adapted to take wheel chairs.

 

[Saksak]

It's so ugly at the highest setting. It looks like those minivans adapted to take wheel chairs.

When you are in deep snow, off-road, or any situation where you want that extra ground clearance, the last thing you’ll worry about is looks.

 

[hwy17er]

The highest setting is also least likely to scrape the bottom of your doors whenever you park next to a curb...scraped doors might look worse

 

[illopp00]

The highest setting is also least likely to scrape the bottom of your doors whenever you park next to a curb...scraped doors might look worse

Yes I only use Highest for easy entry/exit because I don't want my kids opening the door into the side of my garage which has this little 6inch cement base. The doors open with the whole side of the car.

 

[Miami_Lucid_Man]

Yes I only use Highest for easy entry/exit because I don't want my kids opening the door into the side of my garage which has this little 6inch cement base. The doors open with the whole side of the car.

Exactly. That’s why I’m asking. There are new construction rules in Florida that require this step ups closest to the house and my in laws need to be able to raise the car high enough to back it in above the step. Their Cybertruck clears it.

 

[psulightning]

In general for leases, I like to go as top of the line as I possibly can. That helps me figure out what features I do and don't like for the next vehicle. Done this several times over the years in between purchases especially with how fast tech moves. Even more so with the EV space as new battery tech comes out (CATL looks like it some killer stuff coming).
My EV9 has been a great lease so far after nearly a year, but the Gravity has a lot of capability that I would want in a family hauler.

To the OPs questions (if I had my druthers):
T vs GT: I would get GT simply because of range. Less times charging and if I need to take it on a longer drive, I have more flexibility. Even with having a L2 EVSE at home and a solar setup, less potential to pull anything from grid.
Dynamic Package: From all the reviews I've watched and NotchEV's vlogs, dynamic definitely seems worth it considering the rear steer aspect.
DD Prem vs Pro: TBH, Premium. Pro is wholly dependent on Lucid getting it done and who knows if it will be a monthly sub on top like other manufacturers are trending towards

 

[Saksak]

I wouldn’t skip DDPro. Even in its current form, it takes the fatigue out of commutes and road trips.

I would add the Comfort and Convenience package for the acoustic laminated glass. It’s nice having a very quiet cabin.

 

[Kairide]

I wouldn’t skip DDPro. Even in its current form, it takes the fatigue out of commutes and road trips.

I would add the Comfort and Convenience package for the acoustic laminated glass. It’s nice having a very quiet cabin.

What does DD Pro currently offer that DD Premium doesn’t offer?

 

[Tâm]

What does DD Pro currently offer that DD Premium doesn’t offer?

"DreamDrive™ 2 Pro adds:

• Future-capable ADAS hardware for driving and parking with one of the most comprehensive sensor suites available
• Hands-free Drive Assist (Available Q2 2026)
• Traffic Light Detection (Available Q2 2026)
• Automated Lane Change (Available Q2 2026)
• Enhanced Automated Park In/Out (Parking between lines)"

 

[prgarg]

"DreamDrive™ 2 Pro adds:

• Future-capable ADAS hardware for driving and parking with one of the most comprehensive sensor suites available
• Hands-free Drive Assist (Available Q2 2026)
• Traffic Light Detection (Available Q2 2026)
• Automated Lane Change (Available Q2 2026)
• Enhanced Automated Park In/Out (Parking between lines)"

In summary, it adds hopes and promises

 

[Tâm]

In summary, it adds hopes and promises

Yes. However, they are realistic, reasonable, and I should think achievable.

1) Hands-free already happened in Air. It's a matter of duplicating that success to Gravity.

Also, GM has done Hands-free since 2017 and still going strong for the past 9 years, so it's not some kind theoretical feature in the car industry.

2) Traffic Light Detection: it's been done with Tesla and also with numerous companies in China. It's been done by L4 companies like Waymo...

The technology is real, it's a matter of spending money to hire workers to make it happened.

3) Lane change: Tesla did lane change assist since 2014. GM Super Cruise introduced it in 2020. So, the technology is there. It's a matter of money.

4) Park between lines (Ultrasound requires physical cars as references, vision system can do it with just lines): Tesla can do it. L4 cars can do it (Waymo...)

Technology is real. It's a matter of implementation.

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What missing is what Lucid is not selling you:

1) Tesla Summon: use the phone to Autopark your car and call your car to come out of the parking space to pick you up. This is in the future plan but that feature is not listed for sales.

2) Point-to-point navigation: Again, This is in the future plan but that feature is not listed for sales.

 

[Kairide]

"DreamDrive™ 2 Pro adds:

• Future-capable ADAS hardware for driving and parking with one of the most comprehensive sensor suites available
• Hands-free Drive Assist (Available Q2 2026)
• Traffic Light Detection (Available Q2 2026)
• Automated Lane Change (Available Q2 2026)
• Enhanced Automated Park In/Out (Parking between lines)"

Those aren’t currently available.

I wouldn’t skip DDPro. Even in its current form, it takes the fatigue out of commutes and road trips.

I was looking to get more insight in how DD Pro takes the fatigue out of commutes and roadtrips in a way DD Premium doesn’t.

 

[Tâm]

Those aren’t currently available.

True. As I said, they are realistic, reasonable, and I should think achievable. These are the features that Lucid sells you. It's a breach of contract if Lucid can't provide you with these features.

Tesla was recently ruled to refund $10,000 FSD back to the owner for selling nonexisting L5 feature.

Ten Tesla Owners Walked Into a Beijing Court This Week to Get Their Money Back. The Week Before, Tesla Had Quietly Handed Them the One Piece of Evidence They Needed

Ten Tesla owners in China are suing Tesla over Elon Musk's false claims about Full Self-Driving mode's capabilities.

www.autonocion.com

Notice what Lucid don't sell you: Summon (remote autopark and remote retrieval) and Point-to-point navigation. These are in the plan, but when you design your car, these features are missing and not for sale.

That tells me what features Lucid will shortly provide you after the sale, and what not.

I was looking to get more insight in how DD Pro takes the fatigue out of commutes and roadtrips in a way DD Premium doesn’t.

DD Premium is designed for hands-on steering. DD Pro is designed for hands-free steering. It already happened in the Air so it's a matter of time to port it to Gravity.

DD Premium is designed to stay in a lane. DD Pro is designed with an autolane change, from one lane switching to an adjacent one. It already happened in the Air so it's a matter of time to port it to Gravity.

 

[LUBDUB]

Gravity with DD Pro already does auto lane change with a short activation of the stalk/turn signal.

 

[mike1121]

Gravity with DD Pro already does auto lane change with a short activation of the stalk/turn signal.

My Gravity I just picked with DD Premium does this also

 

[Miami_Lucid_Man]

If nothing else this thread shows that Lucid needs to do some work communicating the clear differences between all the DD (standard, premium, pro and 2).