If you are here because you are still on the fence, let me help (an owner's review)

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Hello prospective Lucid buyer.

Today, I got my second Lucid Air Touring after my first lease ended. I'm apparently the first returning lease customer in the Seattle area (shout out if that's wrong). This should give you a good idea of what I'm about to say, but you can stop reading here and go get your own Lucid if you're already convinced 😃.

I got my first Lucid Air Touring two years ago after falling in love with its style (especially the glass roof) immediately. I took it for a test drive (back when we could in WA state), and the design won me over instantly. It's been two years since then, and I've been planning for the end of the lease ever since I got the car. I only did a short lease because I was worried about the company's stability (looking back, I was kinda lucky, but I still paid a lot). I drove almost every other luxury and non-luxury EV brand for a decent amount of time, searching for a replacement (thanks, Turo and business travel). I tried Teslas, BMWs, Mercs, Lyric, Ionic 5, Taycan, Mach-e, iPace, Genesis, Polestar... you name it. In the end, I got another Touring. Here's why:
  1. Nothing drives better. Seriously, nothing even comes close. Lucid is designed by car engineers (not software engineers). The CEO is such a geek that he filmed a 4-hour series talking about EV and physics basics. And it shows. No other car is more comfortable, smoother on the acceleration, easier to handle, has a more perfectly tuned regenerative braking system, and is so eager to kill you if you blink for a second with your foot on the accelerator and find that it is doing 100 mph with you and your passengers none the wiser!!!
    I wouldn't have appreciated this without constantly comparing it to other cars. After driving something else for a while and then getting back into the Lucid, the difference is obvious.
  2. Nothing in its class is more spacious, both inside and in the cargo area. Again, nothing comes close. Four adults will feel like they're in a limo, and five adults will still be comfortable. No other sedan or SUV gives you that open, submarine-like feel while driving, thanks to the glass roof (the only exception I know of is the Model X). On nice days, I drive with the sun shade down to the side to enjoy the view, and it always puts me in a good mood.
  3. The interior design is elegant and understated (if you like bling, this isn't for you), but super comfortable and high-end. Every design element is carefully thought out. The seats and steering wheel are the perfect example, striking the ideal balance between comfort, sportiness, and function. You need to experience the driver's seat and steering in other cars to really feel the difference.
So, considering the alternatives and the current lineup, I got another Air Touring lease for three years. I wanted to find something with better value, but there simply wasn't anything.

Now, you might also be looking at all the complaints from other Lucid owners here (and some who chose different cars and come here to tell us how wrong we are). Here are mine:
  1. My biggest disappointment is the efficiency. Not because it is bad; I averaged 3.34 m/kwh over 16k miles in the Pacific NW, a little colder than CA, which is pretty good. But because I am expecting more from Lucid given its engineering acumen and the hyper focus on range and efficiency. It is possible that my unit has an issue, or my driving style is to blame (I doubt it). I am hoping the new one, especially with the heat pump, can be better.
  2. Sometimes I wish Lucid had more software engineers (it's my field). The car has the potential to have the best system out there. The instrument clusters are beautifully designed, the car is connected, and they built it on Android System. With more focus, they could easily beat other car systems. I still think having a whole tab for color themes and focusing on relaxation software in the new Gravity is a waste, when it can have more integrated apps, much better telemetry and data from the car, and better SW controlled functions through the mobile app. The only time I felt a little envious of another car was when it had Android Auto integration. Join us on the many threads where we impatiently wait for Android Auto and poke fun at our Lucid friends.
  3. Will DreamDrive Pro ever beat Tesla FSD? Nope! And it's foolish to think so. It's a matter of focus, time working on the problem, and scale. Do I want it to be a little better and more capable? Absolutely!
  4. Are there build problems? Yes. I had a couple of issues. Some were minor, and some were more substantial, but nothing major. Lucid has been great at helping with them, and I understand that being new and learning how to build cars at scale takes time.
  5. Related: should you get one far away from a service center? I wouldn't. Not because of anything major, but because of the small size, I'd be more cautious.
In the end, despite the high price I paid for being early and the minor complaints, I have absolutely no regrets. I hope you join us in the experience.
 
In regards to point 3 DreamDrive Pro, I think Lucid will be better off partnering with Google for FSD

it is waste of time right now for Lucid to try and compete in FSD space or Supercharger network... however, It would be wise to take baby steps just in case the market wave changes direction in favor of Lucid

I have an Air but I am waiting honestly for mid size to buy it as second car, Gravity is an overkill for me unless Lucid decides to give a sweet deal

I can not agree any more of what you have said
 
Hello prospective Lucid buyer.

Today, I got my second Lucid Air Touring after my first lease ended. I'm apparently the first returning lease customer in the Seattle area (shout out if that's wrong). This should give you a good idea of what I'm about to say, but you can stop reading here and go get your own Lucid if you're already convinced 😃.

I got my first Lucid Air Touring two years ago after falling in love with its style (especially the glass roof) immediately. I took it for a test drive (back when we could in WA state), and the design won me over instantly. It's been two years since then, and I've been planning for the end of the lease ever since I got the car. I only did a short lease because I was worried about the company's stability (looking back, I was kinda lucky, but I still paid a lot). I drove almost every other luxury and non-luxury EV brand for a decent amount of time, searching for a replacement (thanks, Turo and business travel). I tried Teslas, BMWs, Mercs, Lyric, Ionic 5, Taycan, Mach-e, iPace, Genesis, Polestar... you name it. In the end, I got another Touring. Here's why:
  1. Nothing drives better. Seriously, nothing even comes close. Lucid is designed by car engineers (not software engineers). The CEO is such a geek that he filmed a 4-hour series talking about EV and physics basics. And it shows. No other car is more comfortable, smoother on the acceleration, easier to handle, has a more perfectly tuned regenerative braking system, and is so eager to kill you if you blink for a second with your foot on the accelerator and find that it is doing 100 mph with you and your passengers none the wiser!!!
    I wouldn't have appreciated this without constantly comparing it to other cars. After driving something else for a while and then getting back into the Lucid, the difference is obvious.
  2. Nothing in its class is more spacious, both inside and in the cargo area. Again, nothing comes close. Four adults will feel like they're in a limo, and five adults will still be comfortable. No other sedan or SUV gives you that open, submarine-like feel while driving, thanks to the glass roof (the only exception I know of is the Model X). On nice days, I drive with the sun shade down to the side to enjoy the view, and it always puts me in a good mood.
  3. The interior design is elegant and understated (if you like bling, this isn't for you), but super comfortable and high-end. Every design element is carefully thought out. The seats and steering wheel are the perfect example, striking the ideal balance between comfort, sportiness, and function. You need to experience the driver's seat and steering in other cars to really feel the difference.
So, considering the alternatives and the current lineup, I got another Air Touring lease for three years. I wanted to find something with better value, but there simply wasn't anything.

Now, you might also be looking at all the complaints from other Lucid owners here (and some who chose different cars and come here to tell us how wrong we are). Here are mine:
  1. My biggest disappointment is the efficiency. Not because it is bad; I averaged 3.34 m/kwh over 16k miles in the Pacific NW, a little colder than CA, which is pretty good. But because I am expecting more from Lucid given its engineering acumen and the hyper focus on range and efficiency. It is possible that my unit has an issue, or my driving style is to blame (I doubt it). I am hoping the new one, especially with the heat pump, can be better.
  2. Sometimes I wish Lucid had more software engineers (it's my field). The car has the potential to have the best system out there. The instrument clusters are beautifully designed, the car is connected, and they built it on Android System. With more focus, they could easily beat other car systems. I still think having a whole tab for color themes and focusing on relaxation software in the new Gravity is a waste, when it can have more integrated apps, much better telemetry and data from the car, and better SW controlled functions through the mobile app. The only time I felt a little envious of another car was when it had Android Auto integration. Join us on the many threads where we impatiently wait for Android Auto and poke fun at our Lucid friends.
  3. Will DreamDrive Pro ever beat Tesla FSD? Nope! And it's foolish to think so. It's a matter of focus, time working on the problem, and scale. Do I want it to be a little better and more capable? Absolutely!
  4. Are there build problems? Yes. I had a couple of issues. Some were minor, and some were more substantial, but nothing major. Lucid has been great at helping with them, and I understand that being new and learning how to build cars at scale takes time.
  5. Related: should you get one far away from a service center? I wouldn't. Not because of anything major, but because of the small size, I'd be more cautious.
In the end, despite the high price I paid for being early and the minor complaints, I have absolutely no regrets. I hope you join us in the experience.
Well said all around and congrats on your second Air!

I’m just 400 miles in to my 2025 AGT here in New Jersey. On days when it’s not raining and / or cold, I have easily averaged OVER EPA rating (yesterday I averaged 4.9 over a 40 mile round trip). Overall for the entire 400 miles which well more than 2/3’s were done in suboptimal conditions (less than 40 degrees and / or raining), I am averaging 3.9 miles/kWh. I fully anticipate routinely averaging in the high 4’s in Spring, Summer and Fall and believe my overall average will come in north of the EPA 4.34.

One absolutely vital thing in the colder months is to preheat the car while plugged in. That alone will have a very material impact on how the car performs in the cold.

BTW, I drive neither like a hyper-miler nor a race car driver. I’ve been driving electric since 2011 and it’s definitely a different approach. I never use the brakes except in emergencies…the rest of the time it’s all Regen and I’m judicious with climate control rather than just set it at 70 and forget it, but other than that I drive pretty normally! Oh, I limit my speed on highways to 75-ish tops…unless I’m drafting a Semi! ;)
 
Related: should you get one far away from a service center? I wouldn't. Not because of anything major, but because of the small size, I'd be more cautious.

That was an excellent summary of your Air experience on both the pros and cons.

On the question of proximity to a service center I would add that availability of mobile service techs enters into the equation. I am two and just over three hours away from the two Florida service centers but have excellent mobile tech service based in the next town over. The mobile techs keep a supply of frequently needed parts on hand locally and can deal with many problems right in your driveway or garage. For the few times our car has needed more substantial service in our three years of ownership, Lucid has transported the car for us, either by putting it on a truck or by sending a driver over in a loaner he leaves with us as he drives our car to the service center.

In three years, the only time I have had to get the car to a service center myself was to have the lidar recalibrated after the front bumper was removed to have a radar/laser detector installed -- something I chose to do that was not covered by warranty.

In short, I have found getting service work on our Air to be far more convenient than having to take our cars in for service at the local Honda, Mercedes, and Audi dealers. Only once have I ever had to leave the house to do it.

One caveat: This was similar to our service experience with our first Tesla back before the Model 3 was introduced. Their leap into the mass market, along with their opening a service center 25 miles from our house and throttling back mobile service in the area, changed the service picture completely. It went from superb to now bordering on nightmarish.

I am waiting with a tinge of apprehension to see how Lucid service evolves with the Gravity and the follow-on mid-size project.
 
Well said all around and congrats on your second Air!

I’m just 400 miles in to my 2025 AGT here in New Jersey. On days when it’s not raining and / or cold, I have easily averaged OVER EPA rating (yesterday I averaged 4.9 over a 40 mile round trip). Overall for the entire 400 miles which well more than 2/3’s were done in suboptimal conditions (less than 40 degrees and / or raining), I am averaging 3.9 miles/kWh. I fully anticipate routinely averaging in the high 4’s in Spring, Summer and Fall and believe my overall average will come in north of the EPA 4.34.

One absolutely vital thing in the colder months is to preheat the car while plugged in. That alone will have a very material impact on how the car performs in the cold.

BTW, I drive neither like a hyper-miler nor a race car driver. I’ve been driving electric since 2011 and it’s definitely a different approach. I never use the brakes except in emergencies…the rest of the time it’s all Regen and I’m judicious with climate control rather than just set it at 70 and forget it, but other than that I drive pretty normally! Oh, I limit my speed on highways to 75-ish tops…unless I’m drafting a Semi! ;)

This is why I am doubting that my driving style is a factor. I drive mostly in city (we do live on a hill, so there is the climb up and down but I am not sure how much of a factor that is), almost always on "smooth" with the highest regen setting. One side effect of me loving the tuning of the regen on the Lucid is that it programmed me to almost completely forget how to press the break pedal. I can go days without needing to press it even a single time. I set up CC to 68, and on nicer days I actually drive with CC off and windows half open to get fresh air (a perk in the PNW). I rely mostly on the wheel and seat heating (first setting) for feeling comfortable.

The only thing I might be doing differently than yourself and others who report much better efficiencies on the forum is keeping the car plugged in all the time so that it heats and conditions while connected. That is why my efficiency numbers are still a mystery to me.

After getting almost 100 miles on the new car, I can see from the trip computer that it is averaging ~2.6m/kwh, which is in line with the old one.
 
This is why I am doubting that my driving style is a factor. I drive mostly in city (we do live on a hill, so there is the climb up and down but I am not sure how much of a factor that is), almost always on "smooth" with the highest regen setting. One side effect of me loving the tuning of the regen on the Lucid is that it programmed me to almost completely forget how to press the break pedal. I can go days without needing to press it even a single time. I set up CC to 68, and on nicer days I actually drive with CC off and windows half open to get fresh air (a perk in the PNW). I rely mostly on the wheel and seat heating (first setting) for feeling comfortable.

The only thing I might be doing differently than yourself and others who report much better efficiencies on the forum is keeping the car plugged in all the time so that it heats and conditions while connected. That is why my efficiency numbers are still a mystery to me.

After getting almost 100 miles on the new car, I can see from the trip computer that it is averaging ~2.6m/kwh, which is in line with the old one.
That’s really odd. I just today broke 600 miles and am averaging 3.84 m/kWh overall. Today brought me down from 3.88, but I did 130 miles in 30-35 degree weather at 70 mph with a ripping 20-30 mph cross wind. So, on the day I averaged only 3.55 mi / kWh, but I don’t consider being 18% or so under EPA at all bad for those conditions!
 
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