Gravity Plan B

[privacylaw]

What makes these models interesting is that the Gravity would have outpaced them and been delivered before those models even arrived on the market. However, Lucid’s delayed delivery of the Gravity has forced it to compete against them in an already crowded market, rather than having a slight head start. If someone is informed that they can expect a Gravity in 8 to 12 weeks, compared to seeing a Cadillac available now, Lucid will undoubtedly lose sales due to this disparity even though the Gravity is a hands down better vehicle. While Lucid may adhere to the “Compromise Nothing” philosophy, many people do make compromises, and in this case, the compromise is to purchase from another brand that currently has inventory available.

"Compromise Nothing" is starting to look a lot more like, "compare nothing" because they can't deliver any product. We had planned on delivery to be 8 months late (ish) and even with that buffer, we're now without a SUV to haul us around - so we're borrowing friends cars. Talk about pain in the @ss.

 

[hmp10]

I'll wait a very good while for my DE, but at some point if it just doesn't happen, I will move on. I need that space and utility.

My brother has a 2018 Model 3 that he's ready to shed. But he is so intrigued by the prospect of the mid-size Earth that he is hoping to hold off until he sees what Lucid introduces in late 2026.

However, assuming that Lucid even meets the teased introduction date, if its road to production and delivery plays out anything like the Gravity's has since its November 2023 introduction, he will not make it until then. It could easily mean an Earth not being delivered to him until late 2028.

The ability and/or willingness to wait years to get a product after it is unveiled will get progressively thinner as Lucid moves down into the mass market where there are more choices and where more buyers might not have multiple vehicles to tide them over.

 

[HC_79]

"Compromise Nothing" is starting to look a lot more like, "compare nothing" because they can't deliver any product. We had planned on delivery to be 8 months late (ish) and even with that buffer, we're now without a SUV to haul us around - so we're borrowing friends cars. Talk about pain in the @ss.

As soon as they announced it, I knew this slogan was going to come back and bite them in the ass every time they messed up.

 

[Elfin]

As soon as they announced it, I knew this slogan was going to come back and bite them in the ass every time they messed up.

Any engineer will tell you it's a dumb slogan too, engineering is all about compromises.
Though being constantly behind schedule is consistent with trying to compromise nothing...

 

[illopp00]

I guess it's delayed... This is what their Cayenne EV page says:
"The Cayenne EV will be an all-new vehicle for the Porsche brand and we expect to see it debut in late 2025 as a 2026 model.""

https://www.caranddriver.com/porsche/cayenne-ev

Porsche has no USA production, so their cars are moving into an even higher price bracket that won't be competitive with the Gravity, I mean look at the Audi E-tron SUV platform.

 

[Elfin]

Porsche has no USA production, so their cars are moving into an even higher price bracket that won't be competitive with the Gravity, I mean look at the Audi E-tron SUV platform.

Yep, probably going to be more expensive than Gravity. The Taycan is more expensive than the Air.

 

[evfan]

Well, I have to admit it - I am starting to think about a Gravity Plan B. I just don't have a ton of confidence I'm going to get this car any time soon. There's a very real possibility this gets dragged out into 2026. Gosh, I hope I am wrong, but at a certain point I have to wonder: Maybe Lucid's just not that into me. Since there's nothing else to talk about besides arguing about what Lucid should or shouldn't have communicated and when, or speculating on holdups, maybe at least it would be fun to talk about alternatives (and how and why they don't compare )

I think I would go in one of two directions:

Rivian R1S, probably a tri-motor with max range.

• Pros: Comparable vehicle class/size/convenience/camp mode, same (better) acceleration figures (not necessary but fun), price (cheaper than GT, much cheaper than DE), better lease/finance terms, tintable glass roof, more established automaker with more service centers and fielded vehicles. Ride in the 2nd gen is supposed to be pretty good. Oh, and I can get one now.
• Cons: Less range/efficiency, no NACS (helpful for me because I have a Tesla now, which I will keep, and so home charging will require a new charger or an adaptor), MUCH slower Supercharging and thus less road-trip-ability, much less refined cabin (it's not bad but not on Lucid level), packaging not as good (less overall room, 3rd row not as useful - although i will use row 3 extremely rarely). Overall driving dynamics won't be nearly as good as Lucid.

Lucid Air GT.

• Pros: Probably a better driving car overall. Still a Lucid with a beautiful interior (honestly I think Lucid's interiors are the best in the business to my tastes right now). Cheap as s*** and incentivized to heck right now. AVAILABLE NOW.
• Cons: Much less convenience. Even a significant downgrade from my Tesla S with a hatch - I hate the Air trunk. Ultimately, it just isn't the class of vehicle I was looking to buy just now. No NACS. No Tesla SC Boost. Also I personally don't think the Air looks as good as Gravity. I hate the contrasting color and shape/size of the C pillar - it reminds me of the bad Cadillacs from the 80s and makes it look like an old man's car (though the rest of the car looks quite good). I still hear scary stuff about the software. It will feel like 2nd prize.

OK, I said 2, but just for giggles I'll throw in the Hummer EV SUV.

• Pros: I freaking love the removeable T-Top feature. It's totally unique in the world and just so much fun (though I question how often I would actually use it - manual removal and stowage cannot be a simple procedure). Still a stupid acceleration vehicle. Can go anywhere! Crab Walk (not sure what the point is but fun for a toy). Has an undeniable cool factor; I'm ashamed to admit it but I still go "oooh" when I see one and can't deny I kind of want one. Cheaper than Gravity. I could be driving one this weekend.
• Cons: Just about everything else. Efficiency is a joke, no NACS, DC Fast Charging will be a pain, this thing probably can't road trip. Interior is, uhhh, not good. I test drove one and there were squeaks and rattles all over the place.

What about you guys? Anyone else starting to get dismayed? Do you have a drop-dead point where you finally leave your abusive car-teaser? If you did, into whose willing arms would you run?

The complete lack of communication from Lucid about their repeated production/delivery delays is more than frustrating. I suspect that my supposed delivery time of fall 2025 (based on color and options) is now well into 2026, but in the absence of anything from Lucid, who knows? As a result I, too, have been looking elsewhere and am very attracted to the BMW iX 60. Range is 364 with standard wheels, so not as great as the Gravity, and no frunk. No third row, but I didn't want t at anyway. But an electrochromic roof, spacious, and great ride. And actually being produced, a bit less expensively! We'll have to see about tariffs...

 

[PetevB]

Well, I have to admit it - I am starting to think about a Gravity Plan B. I just don't have a ton of confidence I'm going to get this car any time soon…

Do you have a drop-dead point where you finally leave your abusive car-teaser? If you did, into whose willing arms would you run?

As mentioned elsewhere I hit eject a bit over a month ago now- 22 months and change remaining on my Audi SQ8 E-tron lease, happy with that call. While that deal isn’t around any more if it were me I’d be keeping eyes out for something similar, maybe something like this but with a shorter term:

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I was willing to sacrifice on range, etc as it was really a stopgap measure until Lucid spools production, satisfies demand and works any early bugs out.