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Tomorrow I may get to see how see handles in the snow.
 

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Got a dusting here in NH yesterday. 2025 GT with 21" summer tires didn't care - but there wasn't enough accumulation to do much of anything.
The guys at the Natick MA service center will sell me a snow tire package OR store/swap a set I buy (which is cool)
Thoughts on 19" winter wheel/tire choices?
 
Got a dusting here in NH yesterday. 2025 GT with 21" summer tires didn't care - but there wasn't enough accumulation to do much of anything.
The guys at the Natick MA service center will sell me a snow tire package OR store/swap a set I buy (which is cool)
Thoughts on 19" winter wheel/tire choices?
There is no option for 21s as you saw. Lucid sells the 19” wheels and snow tires; the OEM are Pirelli Winter Sottozero 3 LM1 Lucid.

You can get those for 20” wheels too, though if you’re buying a set of wheels in addition to the 21” I’d go 19” for better options.

Non-OEM for the 19s:
Vredestein Wintrac Pro
Bridgestone Blizzak LM005

Relevant threads:

 
I recently got the 19” winter tire and wheels from Natick. They were the standard ones which I blacked out with the kit from TWraps.

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Turned out to be not a lot of snow, so the road were clear. Driveway was fine, a little slippy. I do have a Pure RWD so I am not expecting it to handle like an AWD. As I told my sales advisor if there is too much snow I'll stay home and use GrubHub
 
Many thanks for all the great insights and advice. We may get enough snow overnight to see how awful the 21's will be until I can order/mount snows.
 
Many thanks for all the great insights and advice. We may get enough snow overnight to see how awful the 21's will be until I can order/mount snows.
Yes, be careful on the 21” summer tires. They can be dangerous below 45 F especially trying to stop.
 
Yes, be careful on the 21” summer tires. They can be dangerous below 45 F especially trying to stop.
Do not drive on the 21" summer tires when temps drop below 40 American degrees.
Summer tires should not be used in the cold weather = even if it's clear and dry.
Freezing temps will crack the summer rubber compound on the inside, underneath the "quieting" foam. Summer tire compounds become more like a hockey puck at lower temps. You won't know you are in trouble until you are.
Typically you will discover this when exiting a freeway = on a ramp that has had little use, and night is happening, and even a wet road just above freezing will spell disaster. I'm not even talking about "bridge freezes before road surface". I'm talking about "wet" and 35 degrees = enough to break traction. This is not exclusive to Lucid = all summer rubber compounds are not to be used near freezing temperatures.

No audio? I wonder what tires are on the Lucid ? I'm going to guess the factory 19" A/S Pirellis. Proper winter snow tires should do much better than this.
I vouch for the Blizzacks = my go-to skier car tire, but any fully-winter tread/compound should perform about the same = much better than any all-season tire.

I see too many Lucid video comparisons with the wrong tires mounted. Having two sets of tires is a pain, but sliding into a guardrail is a big pain... and not being able to use "Sprint" mode (not recommended with A/S tires)... means you don't really know what your Lucid can do. There is a remarkable difference among all the tires / tire sizes. I ordered my car with the 19" A/S but was able to find a pristine set of the 21" Pirelli P-Zero summer compound tires / Aero wheels locally. Thanks for all those who posted about getting tire bubbles on the 21's (because you ran them underinflated!) A whole bunch of wheel/tire sets came on the market. I run mine at 44 psi. cold.
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and the 19" A/S tires at the recommended 49 psi cold.
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I’m giving the “all weather” category a try (if all-season is 3-season with a summer focus, all-weather is winter focus) - so far Vredestein Qualtrac Pro+ on 19” sparcos handled that first Massachsetts snow about as well as winters have in the past for me

A few hundred miles in I’m getting about the same efficiency as the Pirelli 21s. I had a loaner with the Pirelli 19 all-seasons and I find the Vredesteins to have better grip and steering feel, so I’ll take the slight range hit to keep the performance.

 

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I’m giving the “all weather” category a try (if all-season is 3-season with a summer focus, all-weather is winter focus) - so far Vredestein Qualtrac Pro+ on 19” sparcos handled that first Massachsetts snow about as well as winters have in the past for me

A few hundred miles in I’m getting about the same efficiency as the Pirelli 21s. I had a loaner with the Pirelli 19 all-seasons and I find the Vredesteins to have better grip and steering feel, so I’ll take the slight range hit to keep the performance.

I have Pirelli Cinturato Weatheractive and the grip is pretty good but I can definitely see a hit to the mileage vs the OEM 19s.
 
I forgot to mention that they also wander a bit and can feel squirrelly upon mashing the go pedal. But winter traction is 10/10.
I have Pirelli Cinturato Weatheractive and the grip is pretty good but I can definitely see a hit to the mileage vs the OEM 19s.
 
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