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Engineering Explained - Lucid Responded

Interesting on the fall drop of UX 3.0 for Air with CCCv2 (either stock or via the paid upgrade). I've never seen someone so obsessed with profile switching however haha. My partner and I switch profiles and it seems fine to me. Particularly with the CCCv2 upgrade.
 
Just got done watching it. A good balanced response in my opinion. Some good insights such as UX 3.0 rolling out to Air in fall 2026 (but only for 2024 or later cars or if with the infotainment chip upgrade.) But he also mentions Gravity user profile driver recognition being better due to it using UWB but that is for PAAK, which we are still waiting for.
 
I was very much NOT expecting UX 3.0 on Air to ever happen, and will gladly eat crow when my car is running it. Glad I got the CCCv2 upgrade then.

Will give more of a reason for current owners to hang onto their Airs and help prop up used prices.
 
I agree. Very promising. First it sounds like Lucid is really listening and trying to respond to their software deficiencies. I was very pleased to hear the following:
1. UX 3.0 is expected in the fall of 2026 and should improve a ton (nearly all) of the issues, including my nuimber #1 - door handles! However, to get this upgrade, it sounds like we must have the new infotainment processor (the $950 upgrade) unless our car is from April 2024 or newer. Apparently this will allow using nav on one screen and music on the other (another of my pet peeves)
2. Vehicle to home charging is expected to be released in the first half of this year!
3. There is now an email where customers can send feedback, [email protected]
4. They're upgrading the cupholders for newer cars and they'll likely offer a retrofit option for existing customers

Very hopeful!
 
I think the video perfectly sums up many of our experiences and opinions about the Air; fantastic car that we want to love and recommend, but its not quite there yet. The best part is Lucid themselves acknowledge and validate these concerns which is just so very sweet to hear in the context of some around here that act like we are crazy. Lucid is offering a bit of a life lesson; when we acknowledge and embrace our faults and strive to improve them, everyone wins. !Viva Lucid!
 
@marqie considering its kind of official now that CCV2 is needed for UX 3.0, can you help get this added to the referral store. This help's us to make good use of this points.😁
 
I’m honestly not looking forward to UX 3.0. Given the current struggles with software quality and the 'one step forward, two steps back' nature of their bug fixes, I’d actually prefer to stick with the semi-stable 2.x.x versions. We expected the Gravity to be a turning point since Lucid was well aware of the entry system issues and general glitches, yet those same problems have persisted. While there’s hope that the midsize platform or 2027 models will finally get it right, I’m managing my expectations. I don’t mean to sound negative, I’m actually picking up my second Lucid later today, but I want to be transparent about the software reality.
 
Murcie said:
I’m honestly not looking forward to UX 3.0. Given the current struggles with software quality and the 'one step forward, two steps back' nature of their bug fixes, I’d actually prefer to stick with the semi-stable 2.x.x versions. We expected the Gravity to be a turning point since Lucid was well aware of the entry system issues and general glitches, yet those same problems have persisted. While there’s hope that the midsize platform or 2027 models will finally get it right, I’m managing my expectations. I don’t mean to sound negative, I’m actually picking up my second Lucid later today, but I want to be transparent about the software reality.
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Along these same lines, if UX 3.0 is still buggy, could you imagine telling people they need to spend $1k on the upgraded infotainment processor and they get a similar buggy experience? Seems really risky for Lucid and they really need to knock UX 3.0 out of the water from a stability perspective.
 
The surprise to me was the thought that V2H, coupled with the Lucid Home Charging Station, would not require a bunch of additional wall-mounted hardware, like an inverter. Maybe that's been generally known all along, but was news to me. Nice!
 
Buffalo Bob said:
The surprise to me was the thought that V2H, coupled with the Lucid Home Charging Station, would not require a bunch of additional wall-mounted hardware, like an inverter. Maybe that's been generally known all along, but was news to me. Nice!
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This. I currently have solar that overproduces but no batteries. With the V2L setup, I would be 100% clean energy at home without a big investment.
 
koflo said:
Along these same lines, if UX 3.0 is still buggy, could you imagine telling people they need to spend $1k on the upgraded infotainment processor and they get a similar buggy experience? Seems really risky for Lucid and they really need to knock UX 3.0 out of the water from a stability perspective.
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I suppose this is why they predict fall 2026 to give them time to squash bugs. I can't imagine they don't have it running on Air CCCv2 internally already.
 
With my warranty expiring at the end of 2026, I’ve been thinking about whether to move to a different car. This information gives me renewed excitement about what’s ahead and makes it more likely I’ll keep my current one. It also makes me feel better about the money I spent on the chip upgrade.
 
Buffalo Bob said:
The surprise to me was the thought that V2H, coupled with the Lucid Home Charging Station, would not require a bunch of additional wall-mounted hardware, like an inverter. Maybe that's been generally known all along, but was news to me. Nice!
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I'm trying to understand exactly what the V2H comment actually means.
He says that a kit will need to be purchased, but it won't be a hideously expensive thing like on the Lightning.

So this sounds to me more similar to the Cybertruck current solution than the Lightning solution.
For the Cybertruck (with no solar, no powerwall) the powershare gateway is around $1400 + installation
For the Lightning it is more like $5000 plus installation. For GM more like $7k plus installation.

In the case of the Cybertruck with the above solution, you lose power for up to 30 seconds during the switchover while the vehicle wakes up.

However in the case of the Cybertruck Tesla claims that in the future (early 2025, not a typo) if you have an installed powerwall backup power then no additional hardware is needed, only a firmware update for the HPWC.

From what is in this video it sounds like you might need a $1k-2k kit (to go in the panel, to disconnect from the grid if there is no grid power, similar to the Tesla Gateway).
However given that we have solar and powerwall and HPWC... what we'd really like to see is a compatible solution to the Tesla solution (i.e. ability to match the Tesla and Lucid components) which would be easy if Tesla actually followed through on some of their mission statements from years ago.

In our 23 hour power outage recently we had solar+powerwall powering the house, except it was cloudy so to keep the powerwall full by the end of each day we ran the fridges directly from the Lucid.
 
MorganB said:
Interesting on the fall drop of UX 3.0 for Air with CCCv2 (either stock or via the paid upgrade). I've never seen someone so obsessed with profile switching however haha. My partner and I switch profiles and it seems fine to me. Particularly with the CCCv2 upgrade.
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I think he's just accustomed to the ease & simplicity of how it works on his previous Tesla. I can't really say much here since I'm the sole driver of my Air.

Edit: Most I can compare it with is my irk on using iPhone's keyboard text select vs android. Literally the one thing that prevents me from switching over.
 
XTesla said:
I'm trying to understand exactly what the V2H comment actually means.
He says that a kit will need to be purchased, but it won't be a hideously expensive thing like on the Lightning.

So this sounds to me more similar to the Cybertruck current solution than the Lightning solution.
For the Cybertruck (with no solar, no powerwall) the powershare gateway is around $1400 + installation
For the Lightning it is more like $5000 plus installation. For GM more like $7k plus installation.

In the case of the Cybertruck with the above solution, you lose power for up to 30 seconds during the switchover while the vehicle wakes up.

However in the case of the Cybertruck Tesla claims that in the future (early 2025, not a typo) if you have an installed powerwall backup power then no additional hardware is needed, only a firmware update for the HPWC.

From what is in this video it sounds like you might need a $1k-2k kit (to go in the panel, to disconnect from the grid if there is no grid power, similar to the Tesla Gateway).
However given that we have solar and powerwall and HPWC... what we'd really like to see is a compatible solution to the Tesla solution (i.e. ability to match the Tesla and Lucid components) which would be easy if Tesla actually followed through on some of their mission statements from years ago.

In our 23 hour power outage recently we had solar+powerwall powering the house, except it was cloudy so to keep the powerwall full by the end of each day we ran the fridges directly from the Lucid.
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I actually missed the 'kit' comment the first time around, but since I have no solar, I was expecting to need an inverter plus whatever else wasn't covered by LHCS. I suppose that between the kit and more robust wiring, it'll still get pretty expensive even without the inverter. TBH, our situation is such that I would be happy with a V2L solution where we could just run a couple refrigerators and a few lights. I wonder what the V2L status is for the Air.
 
Will definitely wait for the bugs to wring themselves on UX3.0 before I shell out $1K for the infotainment upgrade. My Air will be out of warranty by December and will have to consider if I'll be keeping or getting an extended warranty from XCare or not.
 
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This provides even FURTHER robustness!
 
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