Edmunds Gravity and R1S comparison test

[Bunnylebowski]

Yes on both counts.

When I was considering a new car purchase, after I had finished poring over the hard-core car magazine reviews of engine power, shift points, valve and fuel injection technology, etc., I used to turn to Edmunds to get their take on what the car was like in 95% of its use cases.

No more. Not since Edmunds tested a Lucid Air on 19" all-season tires against an Acura NSX on fat summer rubber to pass judgment on the Lucid's supposedly inferior handling and braking have I taken Edmunds seriously. They've become just another cog in the click-bait grinder that is most of the press and internet these days.

Yeah I forgot about that dumb test haha. I don’t think anyone edits the articles there either, there’s very little signs they were reviewed for accuracy or writing quality before publishing.

 

[JoeSchmo]

How can you be in the car review business and not straight up admit that build quality issues dont indicate anything to do with what is standard, unless you went to a car lot and could prove it as a consistentancy in a set of cars. That would be better but then again a bad month in the factory ( a robot arm that somehow got its alignment slightly changed or its deviation standards changed, etc). An outlier, a pattern not make.

If you cant review without bias, you should disqualify yourself from reviewing. Then again, do we expect the same from the government? So.... maybe having standards of normalcy, is not the normal anymore... What a crazy world we live in since the pandemic.

 

[gaskiller]

Trying to keep an open mind and not go all fan boy. First, I don’t have my Gravity yet, so impressions are only based on sitting in and doing test drives of both Gravity and R1S. Interior quality of both are good but Gravity definitely has a more lux feel. Using an aftermarket overhead sunshade as an example of interior quality issues is a joke. If Lucid provided this loaner with that sunshade in place - bad on them. Will admit that the big gap in back of 5 seater is mistake on Lucid but have a feeling this will be corrected in the future. Highway road ride may be close but Gravity walks all over Rivian in town (where most people will spend majority of their time driving).

The biggest issue is no mention of range and charging speeds/accesibility. This was the one main issue that tipped me to order a Gravity as my first EV. Any review or comparison of an EV without covering this area is basically worthless.

I don’t need to drive the vehicles, looking at more accomplished reviewers comments, it’s clear Gravity runs circles around the Rivian, unless you really go off-road, but who does that? This Edmund’s article is just more filth from them.

 

[borski]

Love my Lucid - had it 2 years- interested in Gravity but can’t live with all of the fob, radio malfunctions, constant software restart issues and doesn’t seem like Gravity has conquered those issues- just want to get in and drive and not spend time waiting for the car to get ready.
Tom- Dearborn

Rivian does not require fewer reboots. I've driven them. They're great cars, but I have rebooted Teslas, Rivians, and Lucids all roughly equally, lol.

 

[borski]

I was told by my SA that there is a cover for that gap behind the 2nd row, as it was a big concern to have my dogs back there. He said he would keep me updated when available, you can also see it on the Gravity seat animation on their website, that there is a cover for it, similiar to the one which goes at the back.

This is what I've been told as well.

 

[sri]

Edmunds is back spilling Poison on Lucid. I saw an ad in X from them about how poor Gravity build quality is and also an ad saying how good new Model Y is. This people are definitely sick.
I am planning to put a block in my router for word ‘Edmunds’

 

[illopp00]

The actual video is much better. Same quirks pointed out that are hard to argue with: steering wheel buttons, some squeaks on the 2nd row power seats, shade installation and some software bugs, gap between 2nd row and 3rd row when folded. Otherwise, high praise for the things that are hardware and are done right at the first time (packaging, charging, range, handling, speed), with acknowledging the rest are minor details that can and will be easily improved.

 

[sri]

The actual video is much better. Same quirks pointed out that are hard to argue with: steering wheel buttons, some squeaks on the 2nd row power seats, shade installation and some software bugs, gap between 2nd row and 3rd row when folded. Otherwise, high praise for the things that are hardware and are done right at the first time (packaging, charging, range, handling, speed), with acknowledging the rest are minor details that can and will be easily improved.

Are this guys real, he didnt read the sunshade installation paper and complain that the front one’s needed sun-visor to stick up. Common there is a reason the package is supplied with tabs and just use some common sense before blaming it on Lucid saying for a car at this cost bla bla bla…

 

[BSheppard]

Yes a lazy review, I find there are a number of reviewers who propagate "gotcha's" when it really reveals their lack of an "in depth" review that would include validating their comment first. I.e. 450 range when the speck of the vehicle tested would have quickly show a smaller range due to the wheel size in the tested vehicle. Always best to kick the tires yourself. Shame there was not a grade for styling; Lucid wins that hands down, you just have to look at the lighting on the two vehicles! Or is that the X-Factor!

 

[zoomzoom]

Somebody explain to me how the off road capabilities are at all a relevant feature? You can go up the mountains to ski and down the dirt road to go camping in any all wheel drive car. I’ve done both in mid level sedans with zero issues. What are people doing that they feel like this is an important? There are zero practical uses for 99.9% of people. I find it to be so silly.

 

[Xminus6]

Somebody explain to me how the off road capabilities are at all a relevant feature? You can go up the mountains to ski and down the dirt road to go camping in any all wheel drive car. I’ve done both in mid level sedans with zero issues. What are people doing that they feel like this is an important? There are zero practical uses for 99.9% of people. I find it to be so silly.

It's a feature because Rivian has based their image on it. It's ridiculous. I see tens of R1Ss here in my area each day and 99.9% of those will never even see a gravel road. I feel like they made compromises to make them that capable off-road because people want the image of being able to go offroad but never do. The Gravity is a functional design, which is why I like it.

 

[zoomzoom]

It's a feature because Rivian has based their image on it. It's ridiculous. I see tens of R1Ss here in my area each day and 99.9% of those will never even see a gravel road. I feel like they made compromises to make them that capable off-road because people want the image of being able to go offroad but never do. The Gravity is a functional design, which is why I like it.

I rented an R1S last year thinking I may get one but my kid could hardly fit in a car seat behind me (6'4"). There was like 4 inches of leg room. It was laughable how useless the second row was. Don't get me started on the 3rd row.

And as Everyday Chris's recent video despite being huge and boxy the overall practical storage space is far inferior to the Gravity.

Cool looking cars, pretty nice interiors, drove fine but certainly wasn't fun or exciting to drive. Not hating but it doesn't hold a candle to the Gravity in any category. As mentioned, the off roading is marketing non sense.

 

[Elfin]

Somebody explain to me how the off road capabilities are at all a relevant feature? You can go up the mountains to ski and down the dirt road to go camping in any all wheel drive car. I’ve done both in mid level sedans with zero issues. What are people doing that they feel like this is an important? There are zero practical uses for 99.9% of people. I find it to be so silly.

Off roading is fun. There are lots of roads in Death Valley National Park where you could take a Rivian but not a Gravity. Though I just looked for YouTube videos and all I see are people softroading them... What often happens with off-road capable vehicles is that the second owner actually uses them.

 

[prgarg]

I rented an R1S last year thinking I may get one but my kid could hardly fit in a car seat behind me (6'4"). There was like 4 inches of leg room. It was laughable how useless the second row was. Don't get me started on the 3rd row.

And as Everyday Chris's recent video despite being huge and boxy the overall practical storage space is far inferior to the Gravity.

Cool looking cars, pretty nice interiors, drove fine but certainly wasn't fun or exciting to drive. Not hating but it doesn't hold a candle to the Gravity in any category. As mentioned, the off roading is marketing non sense.

I like the Costco totes loading excercise we ran