Canopy Pros Cons

[Mr_rhythm]

This is another things I’m waffling on a little bit (Pure with metal or upgrade to get glass). Living in Atlanta I’d definitely plan on tinting the whole roof with a clear ceramic. After reading HMP(?)’s description about riding through the mountains and enjoying the view resonated re: a lot of the drives we take.

 

[Maverick]

Why wouldn’t you be able to find insurance?

Progressive is dropping me at the end of the term for too many windshield claims (remember I also have a jeep). Since I believe other insurance companies have access to that info, if I file another claim it would be even more difficult to find affordable insurance or so my broker tells me.

 

[MoniputerLM]

Progressive is dropping me at the end of the term for too many windshield claims (remember I also have a jeep). Since I believe other insurance companies have access to that info, if I file another claim it would be even more difficult to find affordable insurance or so my broker tells me.

On our last two cars, I paid GM and Mercedes for their windshield warranty. It was the cost of one replacement.

Maybe Lucid will offer extended warranties at some point.

 

[histal]

I think the glass roof vs. no glass roof is something that you either like or don't. I don't like them, and have rented a few cars with them that made me realize they weren't for me. But the AGT came with it. I cursed and figured that the blackest tint I could get would be fine. It is tolerable but I really wish that there was a retractable interior cloth cover like some of the Mercedes SUV's that I had rented with glass canopies. I had HuperOptik i3 ceramic tint installed, and the darkest is about 70% light rejection and 93-99 % IR/UV rejection. It is a vast improvement over not applying the tint but I wish they had a 90% visible light rejection. My 2 teenagers wish I didn't put in the tint and liked the backseat view the way it was, so different strokes for different folks. I think if you know you don't like a glass roof don't waste the money {and then extra money adding tint}, get a metal roof you'll be happy. If you've never tried a glass roof, rent a car for a day that has one. Doesn't matter which brand, the experience of a glass roof will be known to you quickly.

 

[blueice89]

I think the glass roof vs. no glass roof is something that you either like or don't. I don't like them, and have rented a few cars with them that made me realize they weren't for me. But the AGT came with it. I cursed and figured that the blackest tint I could get would be fine. It is tolerable but I really wish that there was a retractable interior cloth cover like some of the Mercedes SUV's that I had rented with glass canopies. I had HuperOptik i3 ceramic tint installed, and the darkest is about 70% light rejection and 93-99 % IR/UV rejection. It is a vast improvement over not applying the tint but I wish they had a 90% visible light rejection. My 2 teenagers wish I didn't put in the tint and liked the backseat view the way it was, so different strokes for different folks. I think if you know you don't like a glass roof don't waste the money {and then extra money adding tint}, get a metal roof you'll be happy. If you've never tried a glass roof, rent a car for a day that has one. Doesn't matter which brand, the experience of a glass roof will be known to you quickly.

I had a Lucid for 5 days in summer May Phoenix it was hot as eff. It was okay the glass roof but I always think it’s a nice to have not must have. And if it improves ac cooling to go metal I value that more.

 

[blueice89]

You can select the metal roof now on Touring let’s gooo ! I wonder what later availability means.. 2023?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1568658937255456776

 

[Steveinarizona]

I just had all of the glass tinted with the ceramic tint and has reduced the heat 80%. Prior to the tinting I could not cool the car off. I am in AZ and it was 108 degrees!!

Thanks. Would you tell us which windows you had tinted with which product at which light level? Yours is a result worth replicating.

 

[Percentage]

Thanks. Would you tell us which windows you had tinted with which product at which light level? Yours is a result worth replicating.

The windshield was 80% and the rest of windows was 55%. I am not very savvy regarding the percentages, however that is what XPel Windoe Tint told me.

 

[Sheena]

Hopefully we can soon see and sit in a metal roof touring in one of the showrooms. If anyone can take pictures and post, that would be nice.
I noticed you can now see simulated pictures of the metal at the on-line configurator site. I especially am interested if the sun-visors function differently in the metal....seem a tad wonky in the canopy.

 

[Phoenix]

Keep in mind that a high quality ceramic tint would resolve the heat and much of the glare issues. They can block 97-99% of UV rays.

Do they also have graphite tints?

 

[Phoenix]

I test drove a BMW iX, which has an "electrochromic" glass roof: you push a button and it goes from clear to opaque (i.e shady) in a second...and does it automatically when you park.

It's quite effective---and I think Lucid missed an opportunity by omitting it (along with heads-up display, SXM, etc). If they aspire to be best-in-class they need to offer these things, IMO

I agree 100% with this! I don't have a Lucid Air yet, but it is my dream car and I hope to be able to afford one in the next few years. But I'm also looking at nano-ceramic window tinting for the panoramic glass roof, and then also seeing if I could get electrochromic window film for the roof and do a custom install for that; the prototype had this, Marques Brownlee (MKBHD) actually even showed it in one of his videos. And I also definitely think they should have had a full color 3D augmented reality HUD as well.

 

[hmp10]

I agree 100% with this! I don't have a Lucid Air yet, but it is my dream car and I hope to be able to afford one in the next few years. But I'm also looking at nano-ceramic window tinting for the panoramic glass roof, and then also seeing if I could get electrochromic window film for the roof and do a custom install for that; the prototype had this, Marques Brownlee (MKBHD) actually even showed it in one of his videos. And I also definitely think they should have had a full color 3D augmented reality HUD as well.

I don't know what the electrochromic glass looks like in the BMW, but in the Rivian it makes the canopy translucent -- reducing and diffusing incoming light into a milky white -- not opaque (which means blocking all light). I actually thought that milky white canopy looked a little unsettling.

Lucid originally planned electrochromic glass for the Air. The early prototypes even had a switch for it on the rearview mirror pod. However, there were two problems that apparently could not be resolved for the Air application. The electrochromic film is not completely clear when unactivated. As the film could not be extended down the windshield, there was no way to integrate the film between the layers of glass without leaving a visible line where it stopped. Also, electrochromic film is fairly rigid and cannot be bent sharply, which would be a problem at the top of the Air windshield. (When Boeing introduced electrochromic glass in the Dreamliner, they had to flatten the windows for this reason.). Thus far I have seen electrochromic glass used in cars only when the panel is relatively flat and is bordered on all four sides.

Also, electrochromic film requires a switchable electric current to activate it. I don't think it's a matter of just applying a film to the Air's canopy.

 

[MGRMLN]

I opted for the glass roof on my AGT because I love the look and feel of it in the cabin. So airy and spacious.
That said, in sunny and hot Atlanta, I tinted all the glass with and opted for the Lucid sunshades during July/August since even though the glare was managed, the heat radiating off the glass was a bit much. Overall, it's totally worth it for me.

 

[Cosmo Cruz]

The glass roof does radiate some heat which you can feel if you get very close to the glass. There were some early post from owners in Arizona about the naked glass roof. It doesn't seem to be a problem in use but does heat up the interior quite a bit when parked.
I had my glass tinted and kind of regret it.

I've let the wife drive with daughter in navigation seat and me in the back. I love looking up at the birds and clouds...I bet I've spent more time in the back seat than anyone here. I do notice on cloudy days that it's way too dark with the tinting. Wish I'd waited a year before doing it.

I've never been in the Air with the solid roof. Guess I'll have to get a Sapphire and find out. Research for the gang ... that's my justification.

I wonder if any Sapphire owners have EVER ridden in the back seat? (or ever will?)

Also, I wonder how the glass vs solid roof effects the premium sound audio ? There has to be a difference, unless they took the trouble to tune the audio for each configuration.

 

[Phoenix]

I don't know what the electrochromic glass looks like in the BMW, but in the Rivian it makes the canopy translucent -- reducing and diffusing incoming light into a milky white -- not opaque (which means blocking all light). I actually thought that milky white canopy looked a little unsettling.

Lucid originally planned electrochromic glass for the Air. The early prototypes even had a switch for it on the rearview mirror pod. However, there were two problems that apparently could not be resolved for the Air application. The electrochromic film is not completely clear when unactivated. As the film could not be extended down the windshield, there was no way to integrate the film between the layers of glass without leaving a visible line where it stopped. Also, electrochromic film is fairly rigid and cannot be bent sharply, which would be a problem at the top of the Air windshield. (When Boeing introduced electrochromic glass in the Dreamliner, they had to flatten the windows for this reason.). Thus far I have seen electrochromic glass used in cars only when the panel is relatively flat and is bordered on all four sides.

Also, electrochromic film requires a switchable electric current to activate it. I don't think it's a matter of just applying a film to the Air's canopy.

If it can't be done, that would really be a shame. I remember seeing the electrochromic glass on the roof in the prototype and loved it, and remember thinking how the Maybach had that as well.

I was reading up about nano ceramic window tints, and graphene window tints, for UV protection and heat reduction, but I can't decide which of them would be best. Does anyone know which would be best, and why?

What I would really like is to be able to do window tinting on the glass canopy, but somehow have it gradually transition to a clear film for the windshield, mimicking the transition that the glass canopy naturally has to the windshield, so I don't have to have two separate pieces of window film where you would see a line dividing the clear portion from the tinted portion. I don't know if a company would be able to do an order like that or not, but that's what I would ideally like.

 

[Cosmo Cruz]

Also, electrochromic film requires a switchable electric current to activate it.

No worries, a fob battery should do the trick.

 

[MGRMLN]

If it can't be done, that would really be a shame. I remember seeing the electrochromic glass on the roof in the prototype and loved it, and remember thinking how the Maybach had that as well.

I was reading up about nano ceramic window tints, and graphene window tints, for UV protection and heat reduction, but I can't decide which of them would be best. Does anyone know which would be best, and why?

What I would really like is to be able to do window tinting on the glass canopy, but somehow have it gradually transition to a clear film for the windshield, mimicking the transition that the glass canopy naturally has to the windshield, so I don't have to have two separate pieces of window film where you would see a line dividing the clear portion from the tinted portion. I don't know if a company would be able to do an order like that or not, but that's what I would ideally like.

My shop used the very latest XPEL PRIME XR+ which has some great performance and I am very happy with it on my car. You can really feel the difference with it in place.
Can't say about the other varieties, though my wife's Cayenne has a nano carbon version from Suntek and I can definitely feel the difference. I'd like to have hers redone but she says it's is fine. LOL