Can you set a charging "off" time?

[Drew46]

I have found the Scheduled Charging feature and have set my car to not charge until 12:01 when the off-peak times start. But I also want to make sure it never charges past 7:00 in the morning. I am usually fully charged by then but not always. Also, when I wake the car up after several hours, it wants to do a quick charge to top off. I want to avoid this because (i) I don't want to have to manually stop the charging through the app each time before unplugging and (ii) NY ConEd gives me rebate $$ if I only charge during off-peak and I don't want to lose that because the car does a quick 2 minute top off charge when I wake it at 8:30.

Is there a way to set a range time for charging instead of just a start time?

 

[Adnillien]

Currently there is no way to do this. I am hoping that Lucid is working on this but nothing has been announced.

 

[Pavlova]

Only way you could do this is through other OEM's charger. I use Emporia Charger and you can control it with their app.

 

[Westchester Air]

I have found the Scheduled Charging feature and have set my car to not charge until 12:01 when the off-peak times start. But I also want to make sure it never charges past 7:00 in the morning. I am usually fully charged by then but not always. Also, when I wake the car up after several hours, it wants to do a quick charge to top off. I want to avoid this because (i) I don't want to have to manually stop the charging through the app each time before unplugging and (ii) NY ConEd gives me rebate $$ if I only charge during off-peak and I don't want to lose that because the car does a quick 2 minute top off charge when I wake it at 8:30.

Is there a way to set a range time for charging instead of just a start time?

Am considering the NY SmartCharge program when I pick my AT up next weekend. Sounds like you're already participating. I know that LUCID is not compatible, so I assume you're using a compatible charger. Mind if I ask which one and if it has gone smoothly with Con Ed? Would love to hear your experience. Thanks!

 

[illopp00]

Yes or constrain the charging end time by the SOC limit. It's likely easy to estimate based on charging Kw and hours you want.

 

[DeaneG]

Am considering the NY SmartCharge program when I pick my AT up next weekend. Sounds like you're already participating. I know that LUCID is not compatible, so I assume you're using a compatible charger. Mind if I ask which one and if it has gone smoothly with Con Ed? Would love to hear your experience. Thanks!

The Air is not compatible with EVSEs ("chargers") that turn charging power on under their own control. If the Air is asleep when external charging power comes on, it will not charge.
I am assuming this is due to a hardware design aspect of the Air that limits its ability to partially wake from sleep in order to charge. Hoping it's been fixed on Gravity, as it is a headache.

 

[Westchester Air]

The Air is not compatible with EVSEs ("chargers") that turn charging power on under their own control. If the Air is asleep when external charging power comes on, it will not charge.
I am assuming this is due to a hardware design aspect of the Air that limits its ability to partially wake from sleep in order to charge. Hoping it's been fixed on Gravity, as it is a headache.

I've heard this, but have also heard that as long as you set your Lucid to "charge after midnight" and have left it plugged into the charger, it'll pull the charge. Whatever your charger is set up to provide (40amps, 30amps, 24amps, etc.)

 

[borski]

If you set up Home Assistant, you can set up a quick automation to stop charging the car. But there isn’t currently a way to do this from the car.

 

[DeaneG]

I've heard this, but have also heard that as long as you set your Lucid to "charge after midnight" and have left it plugged into the charger, it'll pull the charge. Whatever your charger is set up to provide (40amps, 30amps, 24amps, etc.)

Right, you can schedule a start time for charging in the Air itself. Unlike most other EVs, you can't do it from the EVSE ("charger").

 

[Westchester Air]

Right, you can schedule a start time for charging in the Air itself. Unlike most other EVs, you can't do it from the EVSE ("charger").

Sounds good...thanks. I think the flexibility of using the charger is what's making me move in that direction. It allows me to:

• Participate with my local utility's discount program (The Lucid itself is not compatible, but the charger is)
• Adjust the amperage (My panel is 100, so I may charge slower in the summer when using AC and crank it back up after the season is over)
• A bit of future-proofing, allowing me to run the 50 amp line rather than a smaller 30amp line which I'd probably use with the mobile charger.

Appreciate the feedback! This community is terrific. Can't WAIT to pick up my AT...hopefully this weekend!

 

[DeaneG]

...Appreciate the feedback! This community is terrific. Can't WAIT to pick up my AT...hopefully this weekend!

Ah, I see that the NY SmartCharge program does not schedule charging in your EVSE - instead it rewards you for choosing to charge outside certain hours, so you can use the Air's charge scheduling. You're good to go! Enjoy your Air!

 

[Westchester Air]

Ah, I see that the NY SmartCharge program does not schedule charging in your EVSE - instead it rewards you for choosing to charge outside certain hours, so you can use the Air's charge scheduling. You're good to go! Enjoy your Air!

Yep! Exactly. Can set via the car to pull from the charger during the "specified hours". Can actually make back most of the cost of the charger in year 1.

 

[DeaneG]

Yep! Exactly. Can set via the car to pull from the charger during the "specified hours". Can actually make back most of the cost of the charger in year 1.

It's nice that NY is using a "carrot" approach to encourage grid-friendly EV charging. California uses a stick.

 

[pyle112]

I have found the Scheduled Charging feature and have set my car to not charge until 12:01 when the off-peak times start. But I also want to make sure it never charges past 7:00 in the morning. I am usually fully charged by then but not always. Also, when I wake the car up after several hours, it wants to do a quick charge to top off. I want to avoid this because (i) I don't want to have to manually stop the charging through the app each time before unplugging and (ii) NY ConEd gives me rebate $$ if I only charge during off-peak and I don't want to lose that because the car does a quick 2 minute top off charge when I wake it at 8:30.

Is there a way to set a range time for charging instead of just a start time?

I have a chargepoint charger. What I do is set the start time from the vehicle, plug in (vehicle will recognize it is plugged in), go to the chargepoint app and disable scheduling. The vehicle will the recognize the live charge and trigger scheduled charging mode. I can then go back to the app and re enable scheduled charging which will stop charging in my desired time window.

Hope that helps

 

[Drew46]

Am considering the NY SmartCharge program when I pick my AT up next weekend. Sounds like you're already participating. I know that LUCID is not compatible, so I assume you're using a compatible charger. Mind if I ask which one and if it has gone smoothly with Con Ed? Would love to hear your experience. Thanks!

I purchased the Emporia charger. I just installed it last week so I unfortunately don't have any feedback for you yet. I did set the time limits on the app but the charger still charged when it was not supposed to.

 

[Drew46]

I have a chargepoint charger. What I do is set the start time from the vehicle, plug in (vehicle will recognize it is plugged in), go to the chargepoint app and disable scheduling. The vehicle will the recognize the live charge and trigger scheduled charging mode. I can then go back to the app and re enable scheduled charging which will stop charging in my desired time window.

Hope that helps

Seems like a lot of work. 99% of the time, the car will stop charging because it has met the charge limit. However, since it usually meets that limit hours before I wake it, it does often do a very quick top off charge when I wake is so I have to remember to do that and unplug it before 8:00. I think I will try setting the start time in the car and only use the stop time on the Emporia App. I theory that should have the car start charging after midnight with an active charger and then the charger will stop any charging after 7:00. I will let you know how theory ends up relating to reality.

 

[DeaneG]

Seems like a lot of work. 99% of the time, the car will stop charging because it has met the charge limit. However, since it usually meets that limit hours before I wake it, it does often do a very quick top off charge when I wake is so I have to remember to do that and unplug it before 8:00. I think I will try setting the start time in the car and only use the stop time on the Emporia App. I theory that should have the car start charging after midnight with an active charger and then the charger will stop any charging after 7:00. I will let you know how theory ends up relating to reality.

I'd guess that if you set the charging window on the Emporia from 8am until 7am, and set the car's scheduled charging to 12am, you'll get what you want.

 

[pyle112]

These minor inconveniences and rain dances have been crafted over months of painstaking trial and error.

 

[DeaneG]

These minor inconveniences and rain dances have been crafted over months of painstaking trial and error.

One of the charms of owning an Air.

 

[pyle112]

I'd guess that if you set the charging window on the Emporia from 8am until 7am, and set the car's scheduled charging to 12am, you'll get what you want.

The issue I've run into is that the lucid dies not recognize when the charger wakes up without first recognizing it is attached to a live charging cable. If I plug in and don't disable supply side scheduling the lucid eventually forgets that it was plugged in and won't be triggered by the chargepoint turning on. If anyone has a chargepoint and had been successful with other behavior I'm all ears. It seems that 1) this is an issue with lucid software and hardware that isn't simple to fix 2) I wouldn't know if I needed to change my behavior given update release notes aren't very detailed