Brand new Lucid owner, serious range concerns after first trip 2025 AT

[krmanz]

I am a new Lucid Air Touring owner. I have previously owned 3 Tesla's (Model X, Model S x 2).

Yesterday I went on my first work trip. Car was charged to 370 miles. When I arrived at my destination, I had gone 182 miles and had 71 miles of range left. I had 117 miles of range evaporate.

Temp was in the 30's, average speed 75-78 MPH, 20" wheels, 2.5 software update.

Is this normal? Is there a good rule of thumb to hedge? I have experienced range degradation previously but not at this level.

Also, this was my first time charging at Electrify America. My car was telling me that a stall was available but there wasn't. Is that common? Also, this may be a stupid question, but at a different charging station there was a charger with two plugin cords. If one cord is being utilized, is the other disabled? Finally, I went to two different 350kW chargers yesterday and the max I got was 201kW- is that normal?

Also, in DreamDrive Pro mode, I rarely was able to utilize the auto lane change on a major interstate. The display would show the dotted center line- as soon as I put the blinker on, the center line would change to solid.

Trying to adjust to the switch from the Tesla ecosystem- any suggestions or insights would be greatly appreciated!

 

[Bobby]

Much info about this can be found in the videos and FAQs at www.lucidupdates.com.

 

[ATP2023]

I am a new Lucid Air Touring owner. I have previously owned 3 Tesla's (Model X, Model S x 2).

Yesterday I went on my first work trip. Car was charged to 370 miles. When I arrived at my destination, I had gone 182 miles and had 71 miles of range left. I had 117 miles of range evaporate.

Temp was in the 30's, average speed 75-78 MPH, 20" wheels, 2.5 software update.

Is this normal? Is there a good rule of thumb to hedge? I have experienced range degradation previously but not at this level.

Also, this was my first time charging at Electrify America. My car was telling me that a stall was available but there wasn't. Is that common? Also, this may be a stupid question, but at a different charging station there was a charger with two plugin cords. If one cord is being utilized, is the other disabled? Finally, I went to two different 350kW chargers yesterday and the max I got was 201kW- is that normal?

Also, in DreamDrive Pro mode, I rarely was able to utilize the auto lane change on a major interstate. The display would show the dotted center line- as soon as I put the blinker on, the center line would change to solid.

Trying to adjust to the switch from the Tesla ecosystem- any suggestions or insights would be greatly appreciated!

“Also, in DreamDrive Pro mode, I rarely was able to utilize the auto lane change on a major interstate. The display would show the dotted center line- as soon as I put the blinker on, the center line would change to solid.”
Hi I encounter this and discovered it was user error on my part. What i found that work was move the turn signal in the desire direction to the fist indention on the stock and hold Lane change should activate and it will display lane change activated.

 

[TakeDuo]

A Dodge Hellcat can get an impressive 21 miles per gallon on the highway under “normal” driving conditions. But if you floor the accelerator, it can empty its fuel tank in just about 16 minutes. Point is, your right foot is the key to your car’s range. More than anything. Temperature, wheels, AC/heat status. Speed and headwind play a big role, too. Just like a gasoline engine. On your return trip, be cognizant of acceleration and speed and report back if you notice anything different. Compare your kWh/mile.

By the way, your Lucid is the most efficient one to date. https://lucidowners.com/threads/why...mprovements-to-the-2025-gt.10673/#post-236527

 

[Neurio]

Temp was in the 30's, average speed 75-78 MPH, 20" wheels

You need to change your tires/wheels. The 20s are summer tires and shouldn't be driven in temps under 45F. You risk catastrophic failure of the tire rubber in cold weather.

 

[vav493]

Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but I recall reading the range displayed on the screen is based on rated EPA (so like… 5mi/kWh?). Lucid hasn’t adopted the approach of calculating range based on actual driving habits for that part of the UI. If you use the vehicle’s navigation, then they use actual miles/kWh to determine your “Range on Arrival.”

I’m usually always around 2.8-3.0/kWh (heavy foot over here lol) so for example, even though the car currently says 380 miles of range at 85% charge, I know I can roughly expect around 285 miles. Usually, it’s not a problem for me because I don’t go far from home much and just charge when I’m parked in my garage.

All that to say, I don’t think your concern is unwarranted. I had the same spook for the first few weeks, especially coming from Tesla where they adjust the range based on actual driving. The car knows that I actually won’t get “as far” as some of the other power conscious drivers would

 

[HariK]

I am a new Lucid Air Touring owner. I have previously owned 3 Tesla's (Model X, Model S x 2).

Yesterday I went on my first work trip. Car was charged to 370 miles. When I arrived at my destination, I had gone 182 miles and had 71 miles of range left. I had 117 miles of range evaporate.

Temp was in the 30's, average speed 75-78 MPH, 20" wheels, 2.5 software update.

Is this normal? Is there a good rule of thumb to hedge? I have experienced range degradation previously but not at this level.

Also, this was my first time charging at Electrify America. My car was telling me that a stall was available but there wasn't. Is that common? Also, this may be a stupid question, but at a different charging station there was a charger with two plugin cords. If one cord is being utilized, is the other disabled? Finally, I went to two different 350kW chargers yesterday and the max I got was 201kW- is that normal?

Also, in DreamDrive Pro mode, I rarely was able to utilize the auto lane change on a major interstate. The display would show the dotted center line- as soon as I put the blinker on, the center line would change to solid.

Trying to adjust to the switch from the Tesla ecosystem- any suggestions or insights would be greatly appreciated!

Short answer. EA may have 2 connectors but only 1 at a time. Your real range with AC or Heat is what you see in miles per kwh since last charge and the size of your battery. Speed and acceleration affect range as in the Tesla or any EV in addition to the ambient temperature. As @Bobby said, see the FAQ for more info. Welcome to Lucid.

 

[MoniputerLM]

I am a new Lucid Air Touring owner. I have previously owned 3 Tesla's (Model X, Model S x 2).

Yesterday I went on my first work trip. Car was charged to 370 miles. When I arrived at my destination, I had gone 182 miles and had 71 miles of range left. I had 117 miles of range evaporate.

Temp was in the 30's, average speed 75-78 MPH, 20" wheels, 2.5 software update.

Is this normal? Is there a good rule of thumb to hedge? I have experienced range degradation previously but not at this level.

Also, this was my first time charging at Electrify America. My car was telling me that a stall was available but there wasn't. Is that common? Also, this may be a stupid question, but at a different charging station there was a charger with two plugin cords. If one cord is being utilized, is the other disabled? Finally, I went to two different 350kW chargers yesterday and the max I got was 201kW- is that normal?

Also, in DreamDrive Pro mode, I rarely was able to utilize the auto lane change on a major interstate. The display would show the dotted center line- as soon as I put the blinker on, the center line would change to solid.

Trying to adjust to the switch from the Tesla ecosystem- any suggestions or insights would be greatly appreciated!

I notice the same "range evaporation" when I drive is colder weather. What has changed in the current software is that while using navigation, the miles left at destination seems to be accurate.

 

[kort6776]

You need to change your tires/wheels. The 20s are summer tires and shouldn't be driven in temps under 45F. You risk catastrophic failure of the tire rubber in cold weather.

that is not universally true, my car has 20 inch wheels and has all seasons on the car

 

[kort6776]

I am a new Lucid Air Touring owner. I have previously owned 3 Tesla's (Model X, Model S x 2).

Yesterday I went on my first work trip. Car was charged to 370 miles. When I arrived at my destination, I had gone 182 miles and had 71 miles of range left. I had 117 miles of range evaporate.

Temp was in the 30's, average speed 75-78 MPH, 20" wheels, 2.5 software update.

Is this normal? Is there a good rule of thumb to hedge? I have experienced range degradation previously but not at this level.

Also, this was my first time charging at Electrify America. My car was telling me that a stall was available but there wasn't. Is that common? Also, this may be a stupid question, but at a different charging station there was a charger with two plugin cords. If one cord is being utilized, is the other disabled? Finally, I went to two different 350kW chargers yesterday and the max I got was 201kW- is that normal?

Also, in DreamDrive Pro mode, I rarely was able to utilize the auto lane change on a major interstate. The display would show the dotted center line- as soon as I put the blinker on, the center line would change to solid.

Trying to adjust to the switch from the Tesla ecosystem- any suggestions or insights would be greatly appreciated!

first off toss away your tesla experience, you are not driving a tesla. lucid greatly exaggerates the cars range. in reality when you are driving at normal highway speeds you will see a 20% decrease in actual range, then when you factor in cold weather you can lose another 20% or so, in addition if your route has severe upgrades you can lose range and lastly as noted your driving habits can impact the range that you get.

As for EA charging, you will never see anything close to 350kwh, the charging speed goes higher or lower depending on the SOC of the car, the lower the SOC the faster the speeds, the charging curve on the lucid isn't the best, speed tapering begins early in the charge session. the older ea units have the dual chargers, but it is only one at a time.

 

[suchluke]

I am a new Lucid Air Touring owner. I have previously owned 3 Tesla's (Model X, Model S x 2).

Yesterday I went on my first work trip. Car was charged to 370 miles. When I arrived at my destination, I had gone 182 miles and had 71 miles of range left. I had 117 miles of range evaporate.

Temp was in the 30's, average speed 75-78 MPH, 20" wheels, 2.5 software update.

Is this normal? Is there a good rule of thumb to hedge? I have experienced range degradation previously but not at this level.

Also, this was my first time charging at Electrify America. My car was telling me that a stall was available but there wasn't. Is that common? Also, this may be a stupid question, but at a different charging station there was a charger with two plugin cords. If one cord is being utilized, is the other disabled? Finally, I went to two different 350kW chargers yesterday and the max I got was 201kW- is that normal?

Also, in DreamDrive Pro mode, I rarely was able to utilize the auto lane change on a major interstate. The display would show the dotted center line- as soon as I put the blinker on, the center line would change to solid.

Trying to adjust to the switch from the Tesla ecosystem- any suggestions or insights would be greatly appreciated!

Short answer is Yes to all questions and all normal behavior what I experienced.

Couple of things to mention if you want to get around advertised range:
1. Keep your speed down you should not really go above 70mph especially during cold weather. Anything above 70mpg changes the efficiency drastically.
2. The temperature is a major factor. During spring/summer when temps are around 70s I am easily getting 4.0mi/Kwh without trying. During recent temp dropping to 30s I am seeing 2.8mi/kwh average. I drive on 19 inch wheels that also should be more efficient than 20 inch.
3. Pure and Touring have different onboard charger than Gran Touring. They won't charge as fast. I can see up to 250Kw charge rate with preconditioned battery and low state of charge. This rate will drop quickly and stabilize around 170KW rate and keep dropping. I stopped looking for 350kw charges. 150kw chargers provide almost identical charge time between 20% and 80%.
4. The 2 plugs are for convenience and charging port location differences between different manufacturers.
5. Electrify America app or plug share will give you better charger availability. Lucid navigation does not show when chargers are out of service and will continue showing available. This is probably a good enhancement to implement on Lucid part.

 

[hellolucid]

I am a new Lucid Air Touring owner. I have previously owned 3 Tesla's (Model X, Model S x 2).

Yesterday I went on my first work trip. Car was charged to 370 miles. When I arrived at my destination, I had gone 182 miles and had 71 miles of range left. I had 117 miles of range evaporate.

Temp was in the 30's, average speed 75-78 MPH, 20" wheels, 2.5 software update.

Is this normal? Is there a good rule of thumb to hedge? I have experienced range degradation previously but not at this level.

Also, this was my first time charging at Electrify America. My car was telling me that a stall was available but there wasn't. Is that common? Also, this may be a stupid question, but at a different charging station there was a charger with two plugin cords. If one cord is being utilized, is the other disabled? Finally, I went to two different 350kW chargers yesterday and the max I got was 201kW- is that normal?

Also, in DreamDrive Pro mode, I rarely was able to utilize the auto lane change on a major interstate. The display would show the dotted center line- as soon as I put the blinker on, the center line would change to solid.

Trying to adjust to the switch from the Tesla ecosystem- any suggestions or insights would be greatly appreciated!

range do evaporate when you accelerate quickly and also at higher speeds 55mph+. i usually drive in the 75-80mph range and i do a 30% math to get a more accurate estimate. 370 * 0.7 = 259 miles which is 6miles higher than what you had left in the battery pack. maybe people living in harsh winter should account for 3~5% range reduction during winter time

As for EA, only one person can use the charger even though there are two plugs.

For DDPro, you have to push and keep the signal lever at the half stop without going to the 'full mode'. sorta like keep and hold pattern. i believe this is shown in the manual.

I have never owned a Tesla but don't they also encounter range loss? If you use Lucid's navigation system, they do a better job of predicting the final range based on your current driving conditions.

 

[Bobby]

first off toss away your tesla experience, you are not driving a tesla. lucid greatly exaggerates the cars range. in reality when you are driving at normal highway speeds you will see a 20% decrease in actual range, then when you factor in cold weather you can lose another 20% or so, in addition if your route has severe upgrades you can lose range and lastly as noted your driving habits can impact the range that you get.

As for EA charging, you will never see anything close to 350kwh, the charging speed goes higher or lower depending on the SOC of the car, the lower the SOC the faster the speeds, the charging curve on the lucid isn't the best, speed tapering begins early in the charge session. the older ea units have the dual chargers, but it is only one at a time.

Lucid not greatly exaggerate anything. All of the ranges that they quote were achieved using the same exact EPA testing as other vehicle brands. I have been able to achieve EPA level efficiency when I drive like the EPA test. Now, I wish that the range indicator inside the car would take into account driving history and conditions to be more accurate, but it doesn’t.

 

[Negan1000]

I am a new Lucid Air Touring owner. I have previously owned 3 Tesla's (Model X, Model S x 2).

Yesterday I went on my first work trip. Car was charged to 370 miles. When I arrived at my destination, I had gone 182 miles and had 71 miles of range left. I had 117 miles of range evaporate.

Temp was in the 30's, average speed 75-78 MPH, 20" wheels, 2.5 software update.

Is this normal? Is there a good rule of thumb to hedge? I have experienced range degradation previously but not at this level.

Also, this was my first time charging at Electrify America. My car was telling me that a stall was available but there wasn't. Is that common? Also, this may be a stupid question, but at a different charging station there was a charger with two plugin cords. If one cord is being utilized, is the other disabled? Finally, I went to two different 350kW chargers yesterday and the max I got was 201kW- is that normal?

Also, in DreamDrive Pro mode, I rarely was able to utilize the auto lane change on a major interstate. The display would show the dotted center line- as soon as I put the blinker on, the center line would change to solid.

Trying to adjust to the switch from the Tesla ecosystem- any suggestions or insights would be greatly appreciated!

For EA charger with two plugin cords, if one cord is being utilized, is the other disabled.
Try holding the blinker on longer to engage the lane change.

 

[AP22]

I generally get about 70% of the stated range. I average about 3.0 miles per kwh.

 

[Bobby]

I generally get about 70% of the stated range. I average about 3.0 miles per kwh.

Of the EPA range. Me too.

 

[BobFM]

Lucid not greatly exaggerate anything. All of the ranges that they quote were achieved using the same exact EPA testing as other vehicle brands. I have been able to achieve EPA level efficiency when I drive like the EPA test. Now, I wish that the range indicator inside the car would take into account driving history and conditions to be more accurate, but it doesn’t.

I would also add that regardless of automaker, any of those factors impact range on EVs. Driving fast, cold weather, elevation changes, etc. Not exclusive to Lucid.

I've averaged 3.1 m/kwh over last 2 years on my GT. Have definitely gotten EPA performance on longer drives or when I've been conscious about efficiency. Having said that, I do a lot more stop-and-go/city driving which doesn't help. To be honest, I'm not that concerned about efficiency given all the extra range the car already has.

 

[HariK]

I average about 3 to 3.3 miles per % of battery or Pure AWD which is similar to the current Touring AWD and I drive at 70mph typically (72 is really 70).
AC 75 heat 68 as needed. When neither AC nor heat is needed 3.3miles is possible otherwise 3.

 

[hmp10]

first off toss away your tesla experience, you are not driving a tesla. lucid greatly exaggerates the cars range.

We own a 2021 Tesla Model S Plaid and a 2022 Lucid Air Dream Edition Performance -- both on 21" wheels with summer tires.

We have done several "semi-controlled" range tests in both cars in as near identical conditions as we can manage: along the flat, straight stretch of Interstate 75 through the Florida Everglades (Alligator Alley), temperatures in the low 80's, light traffic, cruise controls set to 82 mph (a true 80 mph in both cars according to our radar detectors' GPS), and using highway markers to measure mileage. We do these tests running a loop back and forth between the State Road 29 and Snake Road exits (30 miles per leg) to even out the effects of wind and of terrain changes (which are minimal on this road, anyway).

The Tesla gets 72-73% of its rated range (348 miles) compared to the Air's 78-79% of its rated range (451 miles). Not only does the Air get more of its EPA-rated range than the Tesla in such testing, it also gets over 100 more miles of real-world range.

 

[kort6776]

Lucid not greatly exaggerate anything. All of the ranges that they quote were achieved using the same exact EPA testing as other vehicle brands. I have been able to achieve EPA level efficiency when I drive like the EPA test. Now, I wish that the range indicator inside the car would take into account driving history and conditions to be more accurate, but it doesn’t.

I have never gotten anywhere near 500+ miles of range from my '23 air gt. driving at 70 mph on sunny 80 degree days in florida on 19 inch all season tires that are properly inflated. the stated epa range is not achievable at normal driving conditions