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    Why Donut labs solid state battery could be real

    Yes, this is all future charger infrastructure, except maybe if in semis and they build out megawatt level chargers. Otherwise about 2.3c roughly is what a 400kw (rare still today) is what a 175kwh pack could charge, but that is about the very rough energy a pack could be in Lucid’s gravity lots...
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    A good way to check battery health?

    The battery pack and rear drive unit had to be replaced in our Air about a year into ownership. It has been reported that when Lucid changes a battery pack they do not necessarily install a new one but instead use one "equivalent" in condition. So that's a bit of a wild card in trying to gauge...
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    A good way to check battery health?

    Usable is not the rated capacity. Your newer Gravity matches mine: 117.39 kWh usable (not 123 kWh). Your Air gives health directly: 93.0% (backward calculating, 112.4 kWh usable at 100% health). Your Gravities are at 100% and 99.31%.
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    A good way to check battery health?

    Here's the battery data on our three Lucids which might help illustrate degradation with age and mileage: 2022 Air Dream Edition / 43,473 miles: 2026 Gravity Dream Edition / 5,828 miles: 2026 Gravity Dream Edition / 819 miles: This shows our 2022 Air battery capacity is now down to...
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    Appreciation post: improved range

    I wonder if there is anything special about this car :) I'm in Austin, Texas, normally warm weather and however I tried, I couldn't go beyond 3-3.05 mi/kwh. Mine is GT 7 seater 20/21 wheels.
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    Appreciation post: improved range

    How fast are you going on those commutes?
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    Appreciation post: improved range

    ...Two other factors that I can think of for the improved efficiency (in addition to mechanical systems breaking in). Charge loss (battery degradation) through formation/growth of SEI. This is why Lucid is saying you’ll get better range after 2k miles, although 2k isn’t a magic number. This...
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    How Gravity handle long parking times?

    Posters on this forum also tout the benefits of having your battery resting for longer periods of time somewhere between 35-55% SoC to minimize degradation
  9. illopp00

    The Changing EV Climate in the U.S.

    NIO takes care of the batteries. It's far more efficient. You swap it at a station, it gets charged optimally from 10-93% on L2, it's even better for people who don't care about taking care of the battery. It's a whole pack change, no difference from current battery tech, still gets recycled...
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    The Changing EV Climate in the U.S.

    ...fix. I think the solution is better battery chemistry, like solid state, to resolve issues with cold weather and range. For the battery degradation, i had my Tesla for 6+ years. It was still at 94% of original range. I only used superchargers when on long trips a couple times a year and...
  11. illopp00

    The Changing EV Climate in the U.S.

    NIO has solved this with battery swap, it solves so many issues: automated recharge in <5 mins, no charge curve to worry about, no battery degradation to worry about, no technology obsolescence to worry about. No carrying a giant 120KW or 220KW battery when you only need to pootle around town...
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    Gravity Reset Charge Limit on Its Own

    Off topic and perhaps already covered elsewhere, but as 80% and 60% charge limits are mentioned: I suspect 60% is noticeably friendlier for long term battery degradation for those that can swing it. Lucid’s cells are likely similar to the NMC in the middle graph.
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    Favorite Gravity Feature of the Day

    Hmmm..1st law of thermodynamics predicts heat loss from this system would "trickle drain" the battery. ...Love to see 5-7 year data on true quantified battery degradation of freq circularly charged vehicles vs controls and at various SOC though!
  14. 9point81

    Gravity Cold weather driving range experience (small sample)

    Most of us don't have to worry about temps thst extreme, so it's not really anything to be concerned about. The manual is giving best conservative advice and you can't go wrong following it, but my experience and research I've seen and read with other batteries is that as long as you don't...
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    Battery preconditioning before driving

    Don't know about battery degradation, but I've parked outside overnight, not plugged in when it was -25F. No driving issues other than limited availability of regenerative braking.
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    So long for now ! ? !

    ...the mid-price option, and LFP being the discount option. Second, I think the steady drumbeat of news stories announcing that battery degradation isn't as bad as many feared will somewhat soften the blow of EV depreciation. There will still be plenty, but it will be driven by a combo of the...
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    Gravity Delivery Discussion

    I see the Car and Driver 75 mph test for the touring actually achieved only 77% of EPA range, so the math is actually a bit worse than my 80% figure.
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    Gravity Delivery Discussion

    ...so if I get 80% of EPA range I'd consider that a great result. I usual keep my vehicles for a long time, so I also factor in 10% battery degradation. And I drive in cold winter weather, so put in another 10-15% range reduction for that. Then add in not wanting to charge past 80% to keep...
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    What’s your air pure efficiency in kwh per mile

    My 2023 pure have almost 24k miles. I bought it used couple of week back.. I loved the ride and experience but not sure about battery performance.. I’m getting average 3.4 to 3.7 and never seen doing it above 4. Are there any potential more than expected degradation? And what should be next...
  20. JeffSter

    Lucid Gravity update 3.3.5 + fob update

    Mine certainly behaved more rationally when i noted it was a little less responsive and replaced it. Outright failures… reset, reboot. For minor degradation of response, fresh battery seems a better choice.
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