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This is difficult to read. You are specifically saying the P2P "drove better," which implies that you are interested in performance driving and handling dynamics. Why, then, would you not test the car in areas where you can push the acceleration, braking and cornering closer to the limit...

It's attractive to me if it's the only option. Thus far, in 18k miles of driving all over the northeast,, I've never once wished for Tesla SC access....but it is comforting to know that there IS a fallback. Just because it's 50kw doesn't mean it's useless. It can get you to the next CCS high...

Been driving with it engaged more often than usual to put it through its paces before hands free arrives. Not a single issue on a ~25 mile drive along hwy 287 and rt80 in northern NJ. 2.7.1, '22 AGT. It was VERY smooth on the corner entry and exit. The lane changes are a tad more aggressive than...

It might be regional, but in 18,000 miles of driving, I've never waited more than 15 minutes...and 90% of the time I don't wait at all.

Doubtful that a delivery inspection would catch this as I don't think it scales to tear the car down to the point where they're inspecting wire harnesses (unless there is a known defect). I am encouraged to see the level of detail that is included in the report, and the amount of...

AI knows what it's been trained on. Ask it about IRS tax code and it does well because it's ingested the entire tax code, I suspect. Ask it about the NUANCED internals of Air's charging hardware and it may well struggle, particularly since most publicly available data likely doesn't dive into...

Never disagreed with a statement more in my life. Show me a Air getting 250kw for any length of time. Your post implies that all charging will take 5 times longer, and that's just not true. It'd be a shame for people to rule out this option based on this information.

Yes, it's important to know if you're working with DC or AC as the starting point as that determines which adapter you'll need.

My point is that assuming most of your driving is local (not road trips), then the home charging cost largely drives the total cost of charging over longer periods of time.

The announcement specifically said ALL models of Air. I wouldn't worry too much.

Thanks for the link. Just checked the pricing for the nearest Tesla supercharger.... I'll pick some random ones further from the house and see if the cost differential between peak and off-peak is always that high. Thus far I've done nearly 20k miles without ONCE wishing we had Supercharger...

Thanks for the info. If you're going to do the cost comparison to ICE, it's important to include the more common use case of filling at home. How much the gas at the pump in your garage? *mic drop* :)

I'm sorry, that was a poorly-worded question...I know it's 50kw for the charging rate....I meant the price.

Send the date/time to Lucid, perhaps, so they can pull data and dig into the charging error? I would've placed a call to EVGo at the time if they had a service number, although I imagine their CSR's don't get much more debugging info and can only perform station resets.

Looks like it's billed through the Lucid app to the card on file. Anyone know what the rate will be, or does it vary across locations?

Following up on a couple of observations in this thread, I specifically tested Drive Assist from middle lane, overtaking an 18 wheeler that was in the right lane,. I approached it as we were going through a left turn. Zero issues. Edit: this was at night, for reference.

I think it's safe to assume that if both could be easily updated, then that's what they would've offered. I recall when they first started talking about the hardware differences between the 2025 vehicle and older vehicles, people asked the upgrade question and were told, "it's not a given that...

@marqie add me to the list of ppl interested in a Drive Assist AMA.

A reminder regarding higher speed driving, the follow distance is already relative to the speed being driven, it's not an absolute length.

KOP has flat-bedded a loaner up to me in northern NJ, then taken my car back on the same flatbed.