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I got the chance to experience several Chinese EV's when I Was over there last year.,
There are different price points with different quality just as there is in the rest of the world.
That said...
If you go with the nicer stuff, eg Nio, Zeekr, they are offering a lot more vehicle at the same price as a Model Y and that's *after* you adjust the price upwards to what they would likely cost here. In terms of initial quality, ie things like materials, door slam tests and features and performance they appear to be superior to Tesla.
Certainly I would be interested in leasing one (most likely a Zeekr station wagon) if they were available. My only concern is not enough data on longevity vs say a Tesla, hence the lease. In terms of customer service Nio are prioritizing that (can't speak for Zeekr) and am confident they would take care of me.
Yes the cars charge much faster than anything we have, but that is due to chemistry as much as cooling and consequently the range isn't as good, it's all about trade-offs.
I couldn't care less where my car is made, and frankly neither does the average person. Sure they say one thing, but will buy whatever is the better deal. Affordability is becoming a real problem for new car buyers in the USA, given I don't see how car prices could come down, and nor do I see pay going up, the reality is more and more people will be out of the new car market unless cheaper cars come along, and the US makers and their share prices are not positioned to be able to do that. So expect Chinese made EV's at some point.
I don't wish to get into politics, I'll just say as a US citizen who was brought up in the UK, and having been to China and other countries over the past decades... all. governments are problematic, all countries have their pros and cons. There really isn't much difference. There is propaganda everywhere being constantly re-inforced all designed to instill nationalism and create division.
In the US, we have a real probelm coming and putting in blocks to competition to try and protect home grown companies from competition has never worked. Evernually those blocks get removed and the complacency and greed that they enabled results in those companies going out of business. What we should be doing right now is using the breathing room from tariffs to get our manufacturing efficiency up, and raw matgerial extraction moving so that we're ready when the walls fall. But we're not. Instead the domestics are keeping prices high, business as usual manufacturing and fat profits. Which is what every other industry has done in the same situation... The writing is on the wall and we're just laughing at it because we think it will never happen. Frogs in rapidly heating water is what we truly are...
There are different price points with different quality just as there is in the rest of the world.
That said...
If you go with the nicer stuff, eg Nio, Zeekr, they are offering a lot more vehicle at the same price as a Model Y and that's *after* you adjust the price upwards to what they would likely cost here. In terms of initial quality, ie things like materials, door slam tests and features and performance they appear to be superior to Tesla.
Certainly I would be interested in leasing one (most likely a Zeekr station wagon) if they were available. My only concern is not enough data on longevity vs say a Tesla, hence the lease. In terms of customer service Nio are prioritizing that (can't speak for Zeekr) and am confident they would take care of me.
Yes the cars charge much faster than anything we have, but that is due to chemistry as much as cooling and consequently the range isn't as good, it's all about trade-offs.
I couldn't care less where my car is made, and frankly neither does the average person. Sure they say one thing, but will buy whatever is the better deal. Affordability is becoming a real problem for new car buyers in the USA, given I don't see how car prices could come down, and nor do I see pay going up, the reality is more and more people will be out of the new car market unless cheaper cars come along, and the US makers and their share prices are not positioned to be able to do that. So expect Chinese made EV's at some point.
I don't wish to get into politics, I'll just say as a US citizen who was brought up in the UK, and having been to China and other countries over the past decades... all. governments are problematic, all countries have their pros and cons. There really isn't much difference. There is propaganda everywhere being constantly re-inforced all designed to instill nationalism and create division.
In the US, we have a real probelm coming and putting in blocks to competition to try and protect home grown companies from competition has never worked. Evernually those blocks get removed and the complacency and greed that they enabled results in those companies going out of business. What we should be doing right now is using the breathing room from tariffs to get our manufacturing efficiency up, and raw matgerial extraction moving so that we're ready when the walls fall. But we're not. Instead the domestics are keeping prices high, business as usual manufacturing and fat profits. Which is what every other industry has done in the same situation... The writing is on the wall and we're just laughing at it because we think it will never happen. Frogs in rapidly heating water is what we truly are...
