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Took 2K mile road trip, now looking to sell Gravity

BS8899 said:
While I enjoyed the humor of @JGard18's remarks, let's look at it another way:

> if you are an experienced pilot, you are flying the plane on autopilot on long trips. I think the OP's point is, the autopilot on the current instantiation of the Gravity is not as good as other EVs.
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Disagree. The OP is saying it’s not as good as TESLA’s. That, itself is a different issue. I would argue Gravity is as good as some, and better/worse than others.
 
Yup still very much early adopter territory. If you do end up selling and care to post how much you get for it I'd be super curious what the second-hand market on these looks like.
 
JGard18 said:
Interesting you say you don’t like driving the car because it won’t drive itself well enough.
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Although JGard18's comment is a little pointed (and hilarious), it does underscore your expectations and your priorities for a car. I would expect that coming from Tesla's FSD, the experience would be subpar in comparison. Navigation is another area that draws frequent complaints. However, the driving experience also encompasses performance, handling, interior comfort and aesthetics. Since I was coming from an old car without driving assistance and a Garman for navigation, I was quite pleased with my Air and its capabilities. Do not be too upset that you don't like your Gravity. The information gained by your experience should make your next car choice better. You could try to wait a few software cycles but I have a feeling that your first impression for you and your wife has already been set.
 
Wow, thanks everyone for all the feedback and I will go back and thumbs up all of them as I really do appreciate it.
Ill touch on a few notes after reading all of those comments, but I know it's very difficult to articulate some things via keyboard for me, however, I'm not going to quote everyone

At any rate, I re read my own post so apologies for any confusion.

-I never felt nor typed that I don't like driving the car because it doesn't drive itself?? What I meant to say was that on long trips I do utilize FSD and it takes a lot of stress off of the trip. DD Pro is just not there yet. That is a separate issue from the fact that I discovered that driving the Gravity every day for a week around the Baltimore area was a bit of chore. In contrast, I have never felt that way in my Plaid...that's all I'm saying. I loved driving it fine the last 6 months, but until this trip, I had only drove it around town and only once in a while, not every day like my wife. Side note, she told me she has only been driving it because she knows how fond of it I am...I am a lucky guy, but now that she has got honest, I love her even more if you know heat I mean.

As a few of you have mentioned, and that's what I was trying to convey, is that it's just not the car for us...it's still a beautiful, well-built vehicle, & impressive machine, It just is not as fun or easy to drive for us. I also, in no way, feel like I made a mistake, I wanted to try it, thought I would love it, then I thought we would get used to it, but those things were not the case, and this trip just made me wake up to that reality. I have been early adopting things for 30+ years, so my comments about immature software was just some points of reference, I also stated that I know it will mature and probably exceed what I'm used to now. But that will not change the separate issue that I find it a bit of work to drive (over any kind of distance).
I have had probably 40 cars, Nissan Z cars, Mustangs, S2000, Supras, Miatas (this was a fun car to drive) and spent a large part of my life at SCCA track events. My point is that I also know cars and have driven all kinds of them. I will never go back to an ICE DD...never !lol I do still have a Titan to tow our boat though. I like driving the Tesla's so much that I sold all of my other cars because I never wanted to drive them anymore. I'm sure 95% is the EV factor. I want soooo much to like another company's cars...believe me.

Another note is that a am very familiar with the settings, and none of my settings explain the issues I brought up. For example, my complaint about not telling me when its charged enough to continue, I know I can swipe left and then down to see how much charge I need, but I wish it would pop up in the app or screen somewhere...that's all I meant by that.

FSD is not the priority to me, but it is a nice convenience when I want to use it, but make no mistake, I like to drive. I enjoy my driving my Plaid more than the Gravity. I have been trying to convince myself that I like the Gravity at least as much as I like driving my Plaid, this trip helped me get honest about the fact that I don't. I have never expected DD pro to come anywhere as close to FSD for years, so like I said, that's all just more points of reference and not the cause.

When the Cosmos comes out, I will once again be one of the early adopters... probably. I have high hopes because that is more of the size car my wife likes.

Seriously, thank you everyone for the comments.

PS- I will reply back here about the offers I get from the Carvana type places...if I get any. So far they keep passing me around to their "experts" to help value it lol
 
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DeaneG said:
My old Model 3 performance was a kick to drive - very lively, point and shoot, with the ride of a go-kart.
My Air and Gravity are much larger feeling, deliberate, capable, luxurious. Two very different personalities.

Lucid's addition of Google Places to the navigation (with the 3.6.0 OTA) fixed 50% of my issues with nav. For me, the remaining issues are poor timing/helpfulness of voice output; lack of Google Maps/Waze incident notifications; zero reporting of police, accidents, construction, etc; and the depressing, robotic tone of the voice output. Fullscreen Android Auto with G Maps will make that moot around town, but won't help us on longer trips where we need EV route planning.

I think Cosmos and its siblings will be a much closer competitor in overall character to the Model 3 and Y.
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Apple CarPlay or Android auto… there, I fixed it for you.
 
There are aftermarket donut spare tires, I bought one for my 2024 Lucid Air Pure and have used it, works great. Use Google Maps instead of Lucid Navi. Self-driving, eh, used it before in a rented Tesla, more bothersome than anything else. Find solutions not problems.
 
Ktw13 said:
I own AGT for commute, have driven Gravity for a few weeks and been flying for 27 years hence know a thing or two about autopilot.
I much prefer Lucid DDPro that faithfully execute my command to follow the line instead of another brand that "does it all" but can catch you out anytime.
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I have similar driver/owner profile to you. I commute in my AGT, have owned my Gravity for a few months, and been flying for thirty-four years (where did all the time go?!).

I can accept the limits of my Lucid Driver Assist, even when it disconnnects for no reason, and even when at times it refuses to re-engage. On the other hand, the “full FSD” offered in our one remaining Tesla vehicle, a Model X, both impresses me and terrifies me. I don’t prefer it, and I don’t use it very much.
 
gaskiller said:
Apple CarPlay or Android auto… there, I fixed it for you.
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They are useful band-aids. Native google navigation, like we have in our other EV, is a better solution due to comprehensive EV route planning.
 
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I own both 2026 Tesla Y and Gravity and do frequent highway trips. Tesla has best FSD built by any car by far at least in US. My app shows 93% fsd driving, thats impressive. This makes people think they are having a stress free driving right. Car drives automatically 93% of the time. It works great in city or suburb driving. Totally stress free. On highway driving and at highway speed, Model Y shakes, vibrates, road noise to a point all the comfort of FSD gets nullified by vibrations, noise and hard shell seats. At the end, I still feel stressed during highway driving. I get back ache sitting on those hard seats for extended time.

On the other hand, Gravity has the most quietest cabin I have seen in any car. DD premium works great at highway. Seats are way too comfortable. Most importantly, I enjoy driving this car due to handling and overall responsiveness. For navigation, I use Android Auto and Tesla or Plugshare app for chargers.

So long story short, my personal point of view is that use Tesla for city/suburb driving and Gravity for road trips. More importantly, deciding between Tesla and Gravity boils down to what are your top priorities and set expectations accordingly.
 
Alset2 said:
For me, a lot of it was the self-driving, […] I know Lucid will probably out perform Tesla's FSD at some point, but I really missed it. […] Another thing is that even using the voice assistant in navigation, it literally prompts you on the next move just seconds before you get to said "next move"...never have time to execute the maneuver, especially in DC and Baltimore traffic.
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Since Tesla FSD is your priority, I agree, sticking with Tesla is probably best. Lucid has made great strides with 3.6.0 hands free but has a long ways to go. Hopefully, the road to Tesla-level FSD will be much faster with the Nvidia partnership, but, as of today, only China has vehicles with self-driving better than Tesla FSD.

I’ve done multiple road trips, one of them a 2k round-trip, and wouldn’t dream of doing it with my Model X. I prioritized range (less charging stops), luxury/comfort (cabin noise and suspension), and capacity (4 people, two 80-lb dogs, luggage for a week). DDPro was good enough. I wouldn’t be able to fit all that into my Model X, anyway.

As for the navigation, the distance countdown is fantastic for closely spaced exits and the voice also tells you within a few seconds when to execute, which is nice. There are voice prompts earlier to prepare, but for closely spaced maneuvers, it’s best to have a mental model of the sequence of turns - for any car and navigation system.

I’m wondering if you’ve gotten spoiled by Tesla FSD for preparing for the maneuver. I used to be able to drive without navigation and have all the phone numbers of the most important people in my life memorized. I’m spoiled by navigation and the smart phone. Today, I’d make a few wrong turns for common destinations because I haven’t made a mental note of the crucial landmarks, and I’d be hard pressed to tell you the phone number of my kids because I never need to recall it from memory.
 
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borski said:
This feels like a different timeline

Why is everyone being so nice
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OP is also being very honest and balanced. Not just "I bought Lucid it was mistake I hate everyone and this company" when they clarified that it was them,

Refreshing across the board actually to see their commentary and the responses.
 
Saksak said:
Since Tesla FSD is your priority, I agree, sticking with Tesla is probably best. Lucid has made great strides with 3.6.0 hands free but has a long ways to go. Hopefully, the road to Tesla-level FSD will be much faster with the Nvidia partnership, but, as of today, only China has vehicles with self-driving better than Tesla FSD.

I’ve done multiple road trips, one of them a 2k round-trip, and wouldn’t dream of doing it with my Model X. I prioritized range (less charging stops), luxury/comfort (cabin noise and suspension), and capacity (4 people, two 80-lb dogs, luggage for a week). DDPro was good enough. I wouldn’t be able to fit all that into my Model X, anyway.

As for the navigation, the distance countdown is fantastic for closely spaced exits and the voice also tells you within a few seconds when to execute, which is nice. There are voice prompts earlier to prepare, but for closely spaced maneuvers, it’s best to have a mental model of the sequence of turns - for any car and navigation system.

I’m wondering if you’ve gotten spoiled by Tesla FSD for preparing for the maneuver. I used to be able to drive without navigation and have all the phone numbers of the most important people in my life memorized. I’m spoiled by navigation and the smart phone. Today, I’d make a few wrong turns for common destinations because I haven’t made a mental note of the crucial landmarks, and I’d be hard pressed to tell you the phone number of my kids because I never need to recall it from memory.
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This is an important point in comparing Tesla to Lucid - the range of Gravity and charging speed make it a far superior road tripper for families. I hated road trips in our Model X - slow charging at Superchargers, barely 200mi of highway speed range. Also, I got stranded three times on the SF to LA or SD road trip in Teslas (once with S, twice with X). One required a full battery replacement!

Tesla has done nothing to improve their thermals, range or charging with X, S or 3. I’ve never owned the y so can’t comment there. It’s quite inferior as a road trip option for this reason.
 
Once again, thanks for the posts. Especially to those of you who get that I'm just sharing my experience, nothing more. I'm still a paying member of the forum and will continue to be because I like the community and I'm sure this is not the last Lucid I will own...maybe not even the last Gravity. I mean times change and so do I right??

In regard to my story, there is no timeline change. I'm not making this up because I like to stir things up on a forum...this really happened and while I may wander around a bit while typing about it, the timeline is not in question at all. Would be interested in how that is perceived? Also, not sure why it would be expected for people to not be nice either, but to each their own.

I posted about this not to bash anything, It really is a big deal to me because the car is really, really nice....and I think I was hoping for some understanding, which I think I have received some... so thank you.

And not to pile on, but AA nor car play worked. It would bug out and freeze up all navigation. We even tried with cables. I'm sure this is just a bug on mine because no one else is complaining. We ended up just using the phone as a backup navigation. I'm not saying its the end of the world and I am pretty proficient at reading maps and road signs too, but I guess I have got lazy with Tesla's nav lol. And no its not perfect, but it's pretty good, plus I am used to it, so there is that.

Once again, FSD really is not my priority...enjoying driving the car is. What the lack of FSD on this trip did, and the connection to this story, is that I had to drive the Gravity a lot and found it to be like driving my old 2018 370Z (manual trans)...it became not enjoyable and felt like a lot of work after a few days. Then when I get home and tell this to my wife she told me that she feels the same way. I love her and don't want her driving something she doesn't like just because I am very fond of the Gravity.
Like I said before, I guess when I get down to it, I was just looking for a little compassion from the community, that's all., it's not an easy realization to come to for me.
And again, thank you everyone.
 
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Alset2 said:
Once again, thanks for the posts. Especially to those of you who get that I'm just sharing my experience, nothing more. I'm still a paying member of the forum and will continue to be because I like the community and I'm sure this is not the last Lucid I will own...maybe not even the last Gravity. I mean times change and so do I right??

In regard to my story, there is no timeline change. I'm not making this up because I like to stir things up on a forum...this really happened and while I may wander around a bit while typing about it, the timeline is not in question at all. Would be interested in how that is perceived? Also, not sure why it would be expected for people to not be nice either, but to each their own.

I posted about this not to bash anything, It really is a big deal to me because the car is really, really nice....and I think I was hoping for some understanding, which I think I have received some... so thank you.

And not to pile on, but AA nor car play worked. It would bug out and freeze up all navigation. We even tried with cables. I'm sure this is just a bug on mine because no one else is complaining. We ended up just using the phone as a backup navigation. I'm not saying its the end of the world and I am pretty proficient at reading maps and road signs too, but I guess I have got lazy with Tesla's nav lol. And no its not perfect, but it's pretty good, plus I am used to it, so there is that.

Once again, FSD really is not my priority...enjoying driving the car is. What the lack of FSD on this trip did, and the connection to this story, is that I had to drive the Gravity a lot and found it to be like driving my old 2018 370Z (manual trans)...it became not enjoyable and felt like a lot of work after a few days. Then when I get home and tell this to my wife she told she feels the same way. I love her and don't want her driving something she doesn't like just because I am very fond of the Gravity.
Like I said before, I guess when I get down to it, I was just looking for a little compassion from the community, that's all., it's not an easy realization to come to for me.
And again, thank you everyone.
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I have the perfect solution for you: keep the Gravity for when it fits the vibe that day and then go get another Tesla! YOLO
 
mike1121 said:
I have the perfect solution for you: keep the Gravity for when it fits the vibe that day and then go get another Tesla! YOLO
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Haha, don't tempt me.
I might if I had room but I certainly don't want to keep the Gravity outside if you know what I mean. It's way to beautiful to do that to her.
Besides, it really needs to be driven, it don't want to be sitting around.
 
prgarg said:
Same as you I'm just speaking from personal experience and I am not turning this into a general statement as I know it does not apply to everyone. But to me owning the Gravity has felt like a chore as well since I took delivery. I've dealt with early adopter pains for years with other brands, but I am clearly not prepared to deal with Lucid's.
Time to move on, as you said.
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Thank you for sharing this!

I agree with the opinion already expressed multiple times in this thread that, in your case, the reason is likely not the brand of the car, but rather the size of the vehicle and your driving habits. My wife absolutely loves her Ioniq 5, and almost everything about the Lucid Gravity feels foreign to her—the seating position, the massive size with all its consequences, a completely different steering and pedal response, the softness of the seats, etc.

Moreover, when I was driving an Air Touring loaner, I simply fell in love with how it handled. It felt like I was driving a two-seater roadster, which is definitely not something you can say about the Gravity. I used to own a Tesla Model S and experienced roughly the same stage of Tesla's evolution that Lucid is going through right now—meaning constantly glitchy software and build quality issues (which, by the way, Tesla still hasn't fixed, and they are much more noticeable there).

It wasn't that easy for me to get used to the Gravity after my BMW X5, where many things are done with significantly better quality, i'd say maturity. I won't deny that I had plenty of disappointments during the first few weeks, but the more I live with it, the more I like it - especially in light of the recent updates and a better understanding of what this car is and how to enjoy it. If a car doesn't bring joy to its owner, then perhaps you simply chose the wrong vehicle.
 
Alset2 said:
Also, not sure why it would be expected for people to not be nice either, but to each their own.
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To be super duper clear: I was only kidding. Often times people show up with an agenda (on both the “pro-Lucid” and “anti-Lucid” sides) so I was mostly just poking fun. I meant nothing serious, although I do indeed appreciate the care and thought that has gone into this thread.

In short: I’m glad this thread has gone how it has gone, and at least part of that is testament to how you received the responses. <3
 
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