Not a winter car?

Halodde · 2025-01-21T08:06:56-0600

BS8899 said:
Snow melt/refreeze or freezing rain are the issues.

I have never driven my AGT in snow. That said, I used to live/drive in Canada (relatively flat area) and Oregon (hill country) for many years. AWD made a huge difference in the traction. I had a Volvo (242DL) which was not particularly good on snow. Then I got a Subaru AWD, and it made a world of difference.

I am sure the AWD on the Lucid is just as good. My concern is the low ground clearance with the Air. The AGT ground clearance is ~5". A typical AWD Subaru is about 8"-9". On a plowed and salted highway, I am sure the Air AWG would do fine. If the roads iced up, even AWD would have challenges, especially if you have go up/down hills.

In addition, if you lose traction and hit something, the cost of repairs on a Subaru is going to be substantially lower than in the Lucid Air.

I actually have driven on an unplowed Road where the front of the car was pushing snow because of the ground clearance. It was only my own Street and it was a light powdery snow. So I wasn't really too concerned about hitting anything or damaging the car. And having said that, it was kind of cool to have the snow flying up over the hood and windshield because the front of the car was a snow plow at that point lol

Electrified · 2025-01-21T09:47:53-0600

BS8899 said:
Snow melt/refreeze or freezing rain are the issues.

I have never driven my AGT in snow. That said, I used to live/drive in Canada (relatively flat area) and Oregon (hill country) for many years. AWD made a huge difference in the traction. I had a Volvo (242DL) which was not particularly good on snow. Then I got a Subaru AWD, and it made a world of difference.

I am sure the AWD on the Lucid is just as good. My concern is the low ground clearance with the Air. The AGT ground clearance is ~5". A typical AWD Subaru is about 8"-9". On a plowed and salted highway, I am sure the Air AWG would do fine. If the roads iced up, even AWD would have challenges, especially if you have go up/down hills.

In addition, if you lose traction and hit something, the cost of repairs on a Subaru is going to be substantially lower than in the Lucid Air.

The AGT front bumper clearance is 7" (I just went out in -7F temps to check that) with 19" wheels; now am I going to want smash down an unplowed road with 12-18" of snow with the car? No, but am I going to run away from a road with 8" of snow? No I am not.
But I'm also not going to compare any sedan to an SUV for deep snow driving, apples and oranges eh......

I run Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 on my all season cars as they have great sipes for traction on slick icy surfaces, in fact on my trucks I run Michelin LTX's because the sipes on then are much better than the ATX tire on ice and in this part of the Midwest ice is generally a larger issue than deep snow.

I'll say it again; on my way home last night I took my car through the automatic wash which is 3.7 miles from my house and parked in the carport, voila this morning all four door handles popped up as I approached the car (excited to see me IDK?) with -10F temps.

If the experiences with my AGT don't dispel this notion of the AGT not being an all weather car, I don't know what will. The car even helps haul the kitchen trash to the road on garbage day

BS8899 · 2025-01-21T09:54:20-0600

Electrified said:
The AGT front bumper clearance is 7" (I just went out in -7F temps to check that) with 19" wheels; now am I going to want smash down an unplowed road with 12-18" of snow with the car? No, but am I going to run away from a road with 8" of snow? No I am not.
But I'm also not going to compare any sedan to an SUV for deep snow driving, apples and oranges eh......

I run Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 on my all season cars as they have great sipes for traction on slick icy surfaces, in fact on my trucks I run Michelin LTX's because the sipes on then are much better than the ATX tire on ice and in this part of the Midwest ice is generally a larger issue than deep snow.

I'll say it again; on my way home last night I took my car through the automatic wash which is 3.7 miles from my house and parked in the carport, voila this morning all four door handles popped up as I approached the car (excited to see me IDK?) with -10F temps.

If the experiences with my AGT don't dispel this notion of the AGT not being an all weather car, I don't know what will. The car even helps haul the kitchen trash to the road on garbage day

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First, all the power to you!

The official spec for 19" wheels is 4.9". It is not measured from the bumper to the ground.

BS8899 · 2025-01-21T09:57:39-0600

BS8899 said:
First, all the power to you!

The official spec for 19" wheels is 4.9". It is not measured from the bumper to the ground.

Electrified · 2025-01-21T10:05:31-0600

BS8899 said:
First, all the power to you!

The official spec for 19" wheels is 4.9". It is not measured from the bumper to the ground.

Those little wind skirts in front of the tire ain't nothing more than a mini plow for the tires, more traction eh.
I'm sticking with 7"

stratus · 2025-01-21T11:05:50-0600

BS8899 said:
Snow melt/refreeze or freezing rain are the issues.

I have never driven my AGT in snow. That said, I used to live/drive in Canada (relatively flat area) and Oregon (hill country) for many years. AWD made a huge difference in the traction. I had a Volvo (242DL) which was not particularly good on snow. Then I got a Subaru AWD, and it made a world of difference.

I am sure the AWD on the Lucid is just as good. My concern is the low ground clearance with the Air. The AGT ground clearance is ~5". A typical AWD Subaru is about 8"-9". On a plowed and salted highway, I am sure the Air AWG would do fine. If the roads iced up, even AWD would have challenges, especially if you have go up/down hills.

In addition, if you lose traction and hit something, the cost of repairs on a Subaru is going to be substantially lower than in the Lucid Air.

One of the reasons I occasionally take the Subaru ( instead of the Lucid ) is the fear of getting into an accident in extremely icy conditions. It’s not that the Lucid can’t handle it; it’s the consequences of potentially having an accident and being 800 miles from a service center. That would be a massive headache.

BS8899 · 2025-01-21T11:22:54-0600

stratus said:
One of the reasons I occasionally take the Subaru ( instead of the Lucid ) is the fear of getting into an accident in extremely icy conditions. It’s not that the Lucid can’t handle it; it’s the consequences of potentially having an accident and being 800 miles from a service center. That would be a massive headache.

Exactly! A small accident with the Lucid in a snow storm can sideline the car for months, waiting for parts, and cost thousands or over $10k for parts, sensor recalibration etc..

CWedge411 · 2025-01-21T11:37:19-0600

I believe those sounds are on purposes to break the ice off. Teslas do the same things with their autodoors.

fadooly · 2025-01-21T13:42:24-0600

I think the doors in Lucid are electrically opened which means in theory Lucid could introduce a software update to pop open the doors from the app without presenting door handles

Correct me if I am wrong

borski · 2025-01-21T14:42:13-0600

fadooly said:
I think the doors in Lucid are electrically opened which means in theory Lucid could introduce a software update to pop open the doors from the app without presenting door handles

Correct me if I am wrong

To unlatch them, probably. But the doors would not open on their own as there is no motor for that.

mikecronis · 2025-01-21T18:26:56-0600

I find with the winter-tire package it handles quite well in 6" snow here in Colorado. They're using Pirelli Sottozero, which are decent, but I'm more a fan of Bridgestone Blizzaks as being the best, so when the Pirellis wear-out I might replace them. https://www.discounttire.com/fitmen...nded:brands:brand-BRI&sort=recommended&page=0

Also, this video shows the Lucid Air bear becomes a polar bear. I adore the increased speed coming up to an icy bridge. Bad-arse.

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