LCIDdreams
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$1,200 per year for a subscription to boost 0-60 times. This subscription thing is going to get out of hand quickly I feel.
Suppose someone gets (for example) the remote start. Then the remote starter fails during the subscription. Who pays?It's an option. Don't like it? don't get it. I personally don't agree with it but I see no problem if someone want's it.
You can't "not get it." You must pay for it when you buy the car. It just needs to be switched on. Remember - all buyers are paying for the hardware.It's an option. Don't like it? don't get it. I personally don't agree with it but I see no problem if someone want's it.
I’d pay $15K for Tesla FSD in its current state. I’ve been driving with the 10.69.3.1 beta and it’s incredible. I’d say it’s now worth $15K more than the $7K it cost in my 2020 MS Performance. With how much improvement it’s had in a relatively short amount of time, but especially the last year, I have no qualms with them increasing the price.Not much diffferent concept from “FSD is getting better by end of year. It is going $15,000. Better get in before it goes up.”
Same with Hyundai. They give you all the freebies and then get you hooked. They expire after two years and you have the option of purchasing the services on a monthly or annual basis. They break them into three subgroups that will cost the owner a bit of money. Not bad prices but I did not purchase any of them just out of principle. I do however miss the autostart and some of the other functions that I lost. Gotta pay if you want to play. Personally i think it is flawed business model.Unbelievable.
My sister bought a brand new Toyota Highlander and they wanted to charge her a subscription for remote start. The crazy part is that this isn't a "mobile app enabled function", but rather the subscription would allow her to use the button on the key fob.
That is nuts! Obviously, as a software company "guy", I always look for the opportunity to charge for a subscription service (= increase recurring revenue), BUT a subscription should imply that either the product is leased/rented (= not owned) in some way OR that the service provides support (that is otherwise not available) and that the product/service will at some point be enhanced/improved (by adding features, etc.). Unlike some function in a smartphone, the remote start that my sister was asked to pay for is neither of those .. everything you need is already in the car and in the fob; both of which you already own and will not be improved upon. .... CRAZY!
Unfortunately, the whole automotive experience is about to change and not all of the changes are good. Subscription pricing, like EVs, are here to stay. I just hope that these changes are applied evenly and with customer value at the core.
I had a 2013 Elantra GT (just their hatchback, there was nothing GT about it lol) and had to subscribe to their Hyundai Bluelink service for remote start. Problem was, their service sucked. You’d remote start and semi frequently it wouldn’t work. Maybe it’s better now, but it was super annoying. Made me really miss having a regular key fob remote start, but was also frustrating to be subscribed to a seemingly simple feature set and have it not perform with no recourse from Hyundai.Same with Hyundai. They give you all the freebies and then get you hooked. They expire after two years and you have the option of purchasing the services on a monthly or annual basis. They break them into three subgroups that will cost the owner a bit of money. Not bad prices but I did not purchase any of them just out of principle. I do however miss the autostart and some of the other functions that I lost. Gotta pay if you want to play. Personally i think it is flawed business model.
To each their own. I wouldn't pay $5 for FSD again at this point. I would pay $2-3k for a "dumb" cruise control that maintained a constant speed, just so I could actually take a road trip without my car phantom braking every ten minutes.I’d pay $15K for Tesla FSD in its current state. I’ve been driving with the 10.69.3.1 beta and it’s incredible. I’d say it’s now worth $15K more than the $7K it cost in my 2020 MS Performance. With how much improvement it’s had in a relatively short amount of time, but especially the last year, I have no qualms with them increasing the price.