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Kim Java - Preview Gravity?

ke2 said:
They are both in limited areas IIRC. In the bay area I haven't seen Waymo/Zoox outside of San Francisco (although I think they may be making their way down to the south bay and silly valley, I haven't seen either Zoox or Waymo anywhere in the San Francisco East Bay. So they've got a ways to go before Waymo/Zoox can claim to be able to fully replace someone's car.
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Oh Waymo is all over the South Bay already. Very soon, even all the way up to Sacramento.

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joec said:
Okay. This thread has gone way off topic.

Any further comments about Java, her takes on Gravity, the merits of giving journalists loaner cars, etc. are fine.

If we can’t get back on thread, or if folks are generally talked out on the actual topic, we’re just going to close this one out.
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So are we killing this thread yet admin? I'd really like the actual conversation to get back to the original point of the thread but some obstinate folks can't seem to give up this ridiculous back and forth about FSD...yall really suck....
 
borski said:
Oh Waymo is all over the South Bay already. Very soon, even all the way up to Sacramento.
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Plus these little towns down south:

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babylou66 said:
So this Kim Java has 345,000 youtube subscribers and her husband, PJ, has 174 subscribers. I wonder why?
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Her viewership is exactly the market Lucid needs to appeal to. Not the EV enthusiasts. The families who need a versatile, spacious, and reliable EV SUV. It’s a big deal for her to make this switch. I hope we get video updates on how it’s going and hopefully they’re positive!
 
RajD said:
Her viewership is exactly the market Lucid needs to appeal to. Not the EV enthusiasts. The families who need a versatile, spacious, and reliable EV SUV. It’s a big deal for her to make this switch. I hope we get video updates on how it’s going and hopefully they’re positive!
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I feel you didn't quite get the point of my post.
 
babylou66 said:
I feel you didn't quite get the point of my post.
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I suspect I did get your point but I just chose to ignore it. She posts a lot of content. Her husband not so much. I’m not sure why anyone would subscribe to him.

She has more subscribers than OutofSpec Reviews. Regardless of why or how , she has significant influence in the market segment Lucid needs.
 
Kim Java has just posted a 3-month review of their time with Gravity. I'd call it very fair, leaning positive. Pointing out issues but not overlooking the inherent values and advantages of the vehicle. PaaK...kid locked in car...Creature Comfort faux pas were the worst issues. They discussed them fairly in my opinion.

Kim Java 3-month review of Gravity
 
Nice, she seems to like it. Her comments + the many comments on the video tells you how urgently Lucid needs point-to-point.
 
This scene hit my funnybone. It's the only reason we would look outside Lucid for our next vehicle. Point-to-point self driving would be nice, but either way I need to be able to confidently navigate to out-of-the-way places.

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Yeah, the review leans a little positive but I have a feeling that if I had shown this video to my wife before we got our Gravity she would have said “So why do we want this car?” Kim is waaaay more patient with tech issues than most moms. The first time my wife locks my grandson in our Gravity for 10 minutes, we’re in the market for a new car.
 
Also, fortunately, most of her issues were fixed with OTA updates. If she had to take it in for service (or attempt to do so) this review would have gone seriously south.
 
The general vibe in their 3-month review is positive about the vehicle, but also feeling that the software lags behind, and the pace of improvement doesn't cause confidence that Lucid is on top of the vehicle software. Which I think is an extremely fair take on the where Lucid is. They've certainly improved the software situation substantially in the ~16 months the car has been out. But the pace of improvement doesn't make you feel like there's a software team that has buckled down and focused on making constant improvements. Instead it feels like there's a software team that's working on other things, and they manage to fit in time for a Gravity release from time to time. Some of the features they're working on are things that may be big projects, and a slower pace isn't surprising. But there's a lot of little improvements that shouldn't be such a big deal to get out, and I'd hope for a steadier cadence of OTAs that deliver at least a steady stream of smaller improvements.
 
TahoeMichael said:
The general vibe in their 3-month review is positive about the vehicle, but also feeling that the software lags behind, and the pace of improvement doesn't cause confidence that Lucid is on top of the vehicle software. Which I think is an extremely fair take on the where Lucid is. They've certainly improved the software situation substantially in the ~16 months the car has been out. But the pace of improvement doesn't make you feel like there's a software team that has buckled down and focused on making constant improvements. Instead it feels like there's a software team that's working on other things, and they manage to fit in time for a Gravity release from time to time. Some of the features they're working on are things that may be big projects, and a slower pace isn't surprising. But there's a lot of little improvements that shouldn't be such a big deal to get out, and I'd hope for a steadier cadence of OTAs that deliver at least a steady stream of smaller improvements.
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It's funny - Air owners felt they were being left out of software improvements, now Gravity owners are feeling overlooked - I agree 💯 that a steadier, more consistent cadence of software OTA updates would go a long way to making people feel like problems are being addressed. I even liked that 3.6.6 was issued, even though it didn't apply to me - it just showed me they are hard at work dealing with improvements large and small.

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TahoeMichael said:
The general vibe in their 3-month review is positive about the vehicle, but also feeling that the software lags behind, and the pace of improvement doesn't cause confidence that Lucid is on top of the vehicle software. Which I think is an extremely fair take on the where Lucid is. They've certainly improved the software situation substantially in the ~16 months the car has been out. But the pace of improvement doesn't make you feel like there's a software team that has buckled down and focused on making constant improvements. Instead it feels like there's a software team that's working on other things, and they manage to fit in time for a Gravity release from time to time. Some of the features they're working on are things that may be big projects, and a slower pace isn't surprising. But there's a lot of little improvements that shouldn't be such a big deal to get out, and I'd hope for a steadier cadence of OTAs that deliver at least a steady stream of smaller improvements.
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Lucid doesn’t have the software team numbers that Tesla has, so updates won’t be as frequent. But agree, we need PAAK now, if they won’t most sakes. Wonder why Q1….delay due to Apple/Google?
 
gaskiller said:
Lucid doesn’t have the software team numbers that Tesla has, so updates won’t be as frequent. But agree, we need PAAK now, if they won’t most sakes. Wonder why Q1….delay due to Apple/Google?
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doubt it's Apple/google
My wife just got PAAK on her Cadillac Lyriq via update last week, works great btw
 
Her review basically went how I thought it might when she first got the car. She likes fsd. She's used to it as a Tesla owner. So I figured her review would have the lack of fsd as a weakness of the car. Her software issues were fixed via OTAs, but she still experienced those issues.

I remained concerned that moving forward, between the use of AI tools and fsd, we may have a society of people lacking in human intelligence and skill (i.e. driving). However, that's another discussion topic.
 
gaskiller said:
Lucid doesn’t have the software team numbers that Tesla has, so updates won’t be as frequent. But agree, we need PAAK now, if they won’t most sakes. Wonder why Q1….delay due to Apple/Google?
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Or the constant feedback loop of hundreds of thousands of vehicles (data points) returning use and performance information to the software developers on a fraction of a second basis. All day, every day.

Every time I drive our Model Y and disengage FSD, it wants to know why. This is true for every driver using FSD every day.
 
I think this review is perhaps the most important review the Gravity has ever had. She's a VERY popular youtuber mom with a family of 5 plus a dog who has more subscribers than Out of Spec. She is exactly the market Lucid wants. And a 3 month review with her family using it every day is the ultimate test.

So, this is overall a pretty positive outcome IMO, but the fact that she didn't keep it longer, wasn't more positive at the end, and had issues with the keyfob and other software stuff is potentially going to turn other buyers elsewhere. But if you need a 7 seater SUV that kids will enjoy, there really is no better option available today.

Not having PAAK is really a major problem now. No idea why it's taking so long. At this point, whenever it does come to Gravity, I'll be suspicious as to its reliability. Clearly they are struggling with something that actually works, or it would have been released a year ago. So frustrating to see this drag out.
 
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