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Leftlane said:
Holy cow that is expensive electricity! Roughly 40c per kWh? I pay 7.5c/kwh any time of day with no TOU to worry about. Your price is more than I pay at Tesla superchargers even (34c on average).
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I’m on a TOU plan also, but never use grid power during off-peak or peak. My summer TOU rates are 24 cents off-peak and 56 cents peak. Last October SoCal Edison sent a letter saying they were raising rates by 13%. That’s when I decided to bite the bullet and start thinking about getting solar panels/batteries. I got really tired of being robbed by these clowns. Now with all the debauchery in the Middle East it was the best decision I ever made.
 
I would like to do it, but I can't get past the look of those panels on the roof.
 
DJohn said:
At 1:45pm today in SoCal on a sunny day my SOLAR panels are producing 10.1 kW. My POWERWALL 2X batteries were filled to 100% earlier today to use overnight tonight. My HOME is drawing a total of 9.4 kW … 0.4 kW for the house, 3.0 kW for the air conditioner, and 6.0 kW draw for the Lucid at 24 amps on a NEMA 14-30. 10.1 kW produced minus 9.4 kW draw = 0.7 kW excess, which is sent to SoCal Edison. My home has an old 100 amp box, so I went with a NEMA 14-30 for slower 24amp charging which is fine because I’m retired and don’t drive much. No need for fast charging here. All in all, it really is great having this system up and running with what’s happening in both the oil and electricity markets.
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They allowed you to put 10.1KW of solar panels on a house whose maximum draw of 17.6KW (220V * 100A * .8)? Can't do that in PG&E land (aka Northern CA)
 
Leftlane said:
Holy cow that is expensive electricity! Roughly 40c per kWh? I pay 7.5c/kwh any time of day with no TOU to worry about. Your price is more than I pay at Tesla superchargers even (34c on average).
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In Long Beach CA the TOU for 4:00pm-9:00pm is 59 cents per KWH. The rest of the day the cost is 26 cents. I think PG&E in northern CA is even higher, I'd have to look.
 
ke2 said:
They allowed you to put 10.1KW of solar panels on a house whose maximum draw of 17.6KW (220V * 100A * .8)? Can't do that in PG&E land (aka Northern CA)
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It’s actually a 14.3 kW system, designed by Tesla, approved by SoCal Edison, and passed city inspection.
 
DeaneG said:
I've seen them on a few homes in the area, and they aren't attractive either.
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We had them installed here in NorCal. Unfortunately, the alternative would have been a jigsaw puzzle of individual solar panels set up on our irregular rooftop, which would look *way* worse particularly with all the exposed wires having to connect each separate section.

But yeah, Tesla discontinued their roof product, though I've heard that there are still other solar companies who sell similar products. Too bad they never got beyond the obsidian/black tiles, b/c that was probably the ugliest option of what they initially announced. Also note that solar tiles are not only more expensive than panels, they're also less efficient so you generally end up with less power generated.
 
DJohn said:
I’m on a TOU plan also, but never use grid power during off-peak or peak. My summer TOU rates are 24 cents off-peak and 56 cents peak. Last October SoCal Edison sent a letter saying they were raising rates by 13%. That’s when I decided to bite the bullet and start thinking about getting solar panels/batteries. I got really tired of being robbed by these clowns. Now with all the debauchery in the Middle East it was the best decision I ever made.
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I’m in a similar position with SCE. We’re running the numbers to see if it’s worth it with NEM 3.0. What has your experience been? What solar company did you go with?

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Just saw you said Tesla. Good experience? I have several neighbors with them and it’s a mixed bag.
 
mike1121 said:
I’m in a similar position with SCE. We’re running the numbers to see if it’s worth it with NEM 3.0. What has your experience been? What solar company did you go with?

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Just saw you said Tesla. Good experience? I have several neighbors with them and it’s a mixed bag.
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We put gaf on when we reroofed the house and most people don’t notice them
They gave us a guarantee production schedule for the next 20 years
YMMV
 
mike1121 said:
I’m in a similar position with SCE. We’re running the numbers to see if it’s worth it with NEM 3.0. What has your experience been? What solar company did you go with?

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Just saw you said Tesla. Good experience? I have several neighbors with them and it’s a mixed m
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mike1121 said:
I’m in a similar position with SCE. We’re running the numbers to see if it’s worth it with NEM 3.0. What has your experience been? What solar company did you go with?

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Just saw you said Tesla. Good experience? I have several neighbors with them and it’s a mixed bag.
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NEM 3.0 is definitely a hose job for solar owners selling excess to the grid. I try really hard to stay self-contained with solar power and not use grid power. On occasion I use grid power in the winter when there are several days of cloudy weather. In the summer it’s very rare I use grid power as I normally end up selling a small amount of excess to the grid everyday. Making money by selling my excess isn’t a priority for me.

The Tesla buy and install experience was excellent. It did take a while because everyone was trying to get their systems up and operational before the 30% Federal tax credit expired at the end of last year. It took 5 months and 6 days from putting a deposit down on Day 1 to getting my Permission To Operate on 12/16/2025. Operationally, the system functions as advertised. Haven’t had any trouble or problems so far after 9+ months. If you’re in the market for a system, Tesla is the only way to go in my opinion. Several solar companies have gone bankrupt/out of business/bought leaving their customers in an abyss.
 
DJohn said:
NEM 3.0 is definitely a hose job for solar owners selling excess to the grid. I try really hard to stay self-contained with solar power and not use grid power. On occasion I use grid power in the winter when there are several days of cloudy weather. In the summer it’s very rare I use grid power as I normally end up selling a small amount of excess to the grid everyday. Making money by selling my excess isn’t a priority for me.

The Tesla buy and install experience was excellent. It did take a while because everyone was trying to get their systems up and operational before the 30% Federal tax credit expired at the end of last year. It took 5 months and 6 days from putting a deposit down on Day 1 to getting my Permission To Operate on 12/16/2025. Operationally, the system functions as advertised. Haven’t had any trouble or problems so far after 9+ months. If you’re in the market for a system, Tesla is the only way to go in my opinion. Several solar companies have gone bankrupt/out of business/bought leaving their customers in an abyss.
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That’s some great insight, thanks!
 
ke2 said:
They allowed you to put 10.1KW of solar panels on a house whose maximum draw of 17.6KW (220V * 100A * .8)? Can't do that in PG&E land (aka Northern CA)
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I was gonna say, wish my solar system cranked out that sort of power!.. but I'm also limited by smaller sq ft on my roof; his must be quite a bit larger
 
ke2 said:
They allowed you to put 10.1KW of solar panels on a house whose maximum draw of 17.6KW (220V * 100A * .8)? Can't do that in PG&E land (aka Northern CA)
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Meant to say it’s a 125A box. Had the 100A CB on my mind.
 
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