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I happened to be in the area today and parked in the garage that the Miami Lucid service center uses for storage. I should’ve snapped some pics but they’re must have been at least 20-25 Gravity just sitting there in inventory. My wife’s lease on her Atlas is almost up and it makes me wonder if they’d offer something a bit more than the advertised incentives to sweeten the pot and lighten their load. I will probably inquire. Nothing to lose.
 
When I did my test drive in the Roswell, GA location, they had row upon row of Gravitys in a large lot. It must have been a couple hundred.
 
I am concerned that the website team may not be accurately reflecting all inventory items. Could you please provide the count of white units observed at the Miami and Atlanta locations?
 
I texted today and my sales rep (same guy from my Air lease last year) just screen shotted the website for current inventory. So I think the web is all you’re gonna get as what’s available.
 
papiDR said:
I am concerned that the website team may not be accurately reflecting all inventory items. Could you please provide the count of white units observed at the Miami and Atlanta locations?
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The website has a limit on how many cars it lists, you have to get more specific with filters to see more.
 
papiDR said:
I am concerned that the website team may not be accurately reflecting all inventory items. Could you please provide the count of white units observed at the Miami and Atlanta locations?
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No. I probably won’t be back for another month or so.
 
Thank you for the info guys.

I will probably waiting until the holiday season to acquire a fully-equipped 2027 white Tahoe, as it is anticipated that a 0% APR financing option, similar to the one offered last holiday season, may become available.🤞
 
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Take half of the inventory and replace the 2nd row bench seats with captains chairs and then see which ones sells more. My money is on the captains chairs.
 
papiDR said:
Thank you for the info guys.

I will probably waiting until the holiday season to acquire a fully-equipped 2027 white Tahoe, as it is anticipated that a 0% APR financing option, similar to the one offered last holiday season, may become available.🤞
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Just curious - if they don't offer discounted financing or some other financial incentive, will you keep waiting or go to a competitor? Please don't read anything into my question, good or bad - I just wonder if past pricing has driven the puchase decision or if the product drives the purchase decision. No wrong or right answer and certainly open to other forum member's comments.
 
tmichael said:
Just curious - if they don't offer discounted financing or some other financial incentive, will you keep waiting or go to a competitor? Please don't read anything into my question, good or bad - I just wonder if past pricing has driven the puchase decision or if the product drives the purchase decision. No wrong or right answer and certainly open to other forum member's comments.
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I know you did not ask me, but I am actively shopping the Gravity against about every other electric SUV available this year. For me, price is definitely a factor - or I should say value.

BEVs have been discounted 10% to 20% off MSRP for the past few years. That meant that cars like the BMW iX M70 that were similarly priced at $120K actually sold for around $100K. The Macan EV gets discounted 6% to 8%, so a similar MSRP Macan would actually be $10K cheaper than the Gravity. The Gravity is by far the most expensive car I am considering, so the key question I am asking myself is "is the Lucid Tax worth it?"

To justify its ultra premium price, the Gravity should be the leader in every nearly aspect of ownership: Best dealership experience, best driving, best performance, best quality, best dependability, best range, best looking, best pedigree, best audio system, best hands-free ADAS, best tech package, best interior, etc. In other words, a car at a non-discounted $120K price point ought to be darn near perfect in most every way.
 
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To justify its ultra premium price, the Gravity should be the leader in every nearly aspect of ownership: Best dealership experience, best driving, best quality, best dependability, best looking, best pedigree, best audio system, best hands-free ADAS, best tech package, best interior, etc.
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In 100% agreement... and I believe LUCID is steering the ship in the right direction and will get there...
 
exxxviii said:
I know you did not ask me, but I am actively shopping the Gravity against about every other electric SUV available this year. For me, price is definitely a factor - or I should say value.

BEVs have been discounted 10% to 20% off MSRP for the past few years. That meant that cars like the BMW iX M70 that were similarly priced at $120K actually sold for around $100K. The Macan EV gets discounted 6% to 8%, so a similar MSRP Macan would actually be $10K cheaper than the Gravity. The Gravity is by far the most expensive car I am considering, so the key question I am asking myself is "is the Lucid Tax worth it?"

To justify its ultra premium price, the Gravity should be the leader in every nearly aspect of ownership: Best dealership experience, best driving, best performance, best quality, best dependability, best looking, best pedigree, best audio system, best hands-free ADAS, best tech package, best interior, etc. In other words, a car at a non-discounted $120K price point ought to be darn near perfect in most every way.
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I'm asking the forum in total - thanks for your input.

What if the pricing begins to stabilize - either manufacturers align MSRP with actual transaction prices or wider adoption causes an increase in demand?

I get the "value" issue - but it is totally subjective. Are there objective pricing "rules" that dictate whether we will pay MSRP for a car or do we "need" to get incentives that bring the prices down to past transaction prices to make us feel better about buying a car? If the Macan or iX M70 or Gravity reduced MSRP to current transaction prices, would we still want a "deal" or incentive to make us feel better? Or, would we feel they are fairly priced and not expect incentives?

I don't have the answer - we all perceive value differently, but if it were easy to answer, automotive product planning and sales and marketing departments would sure be happy to accommodate us buyers.

I bet @Macrocosmcwh has some experience in this area...
 
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tmichael said:
I'm asking the forum in total - thanks for your input.

What if the pricing begins to stabilize - either manufacturers align MSRP with actual transaction prices or wider adoption causes an increase in demand?

I get the "value" issue - but it is totally subjective. Are there objective pricing "rules" that dictate whether we will pay MSRP for a car or do we "need" to get incentives that bring the prices down to past transaction prices to make us feel better about buying a car? If the Macan or iX M70 or Gravity reduced MSRP to current transaction prices, would we still want a "deal" or incentive to make us feel better? Or, would we feel they are fairly priced and not expect incentives?

I don't have the answer - we all perceive value differently, but if it were easy to answer, automotive product planning and sales and marketing departments would sure be happy to accommodate us buyers.
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Yeah, the idea of value is hugely personal, and some aspects could make folks feel like they got a bargain with a $140K Dream Edition.

I love where the auto industry is heading with no-negotiation pricing. So, the new form automakers like Rivian, Lucid, Polestar, Tesla, etc. that simply present a price are doing a huge service to their buyers. On the other hand, legacy automakers make the buyers figure out the current market price of the car, and it is a colossal waste of time. Some consumers are attracted to a "deal" where they perceive they got a car much cheaper than others. I am in the camp that I just want to see a no-nonsense price without wasting my time.

A Model Y L is $62K. A maxed Ioniq 9 (with market discounts) is around $65K. A comparable R1S is around $100K. A comparable iX M70 (while you can still get one) is around $100K (after market discounts). A comparable Macan EV is around $110K (with market discounts). Does the Gravity's premium price justify the incremental spend over others in the market? IMHO, with the issues, it is a $100K-ish car to me, so no. When the GV90 arrives, it will be a major threat to the Gravity.

Interesting case study in my shopping realm: I had the the Lyriq V pretty high on my list because it delivers a lot of value at $86K MSRP and my guesstimate of around 5% discounting. However, GM's HUD supplier just folded, so they deleted HUD from future Lyriq V orders. That car's value plummeted to me, because HUD is one of my highly desirable features. I would much rather get a Model Y L for $62K if I am going to skip out on HUD.
 
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I think it is really difficult to compare prices for the gravity to a vehicle with less than 3 rows. I appreciate you can get a 5 seater, however it isn't a shorter car, just less seats.

Here is a list of cars competing for your business.

  • Kia EV9
  • Hyundai Ioniq 9
  • Tesla Model Y
  • Lucid Gravity
  • Rivian R1S
  • Volvo EX90
  • Cadillac Vistiq
  • Mercedes-Benz EQS SUV
  • Cadillac Escalade IQ (incl. IQ L)

Anyone have some more?
 
tmichael said:
I think it is really difficult to compare prices for the gravity to a vehicle with less than 3 rows. I appreciate you can get a 5 seater, however it isn't a shorter car, just less seats.

Here is a list of cars competing for your business.
  • Kia EV9
  • Hyundai Ioniq 9
  • Tesla Model Y
  • Lucid Gravity
  • Rivian R1S
  • Volvo EX90
  • Cadillac Vistiq
  • Mercedes-Benz EQS SUV
  • Cadillac Escalade IQ (incl. IQ L)
Anyone have some more?
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Agree. In my case, I am not deliberately shopping for a 3-row SUV, because I do not need the room or desire the size. So, when an automaker also offers a 2-row car, that is my preference over the 3-row. Therefore, from your list above, I have the R2 instead of the R1S, EX60 instead of the EX90, and Lyriq V instead of the Vistiq or Escalade (and further, GM deleted CarPlay from the Vistiq and Escalade, so those two are dead to me anyway), and M-B GLC EV over any of the EQxxx options. But even 2-row car prices give comparative pricing insights. For example, why does it appear to cost Lucid at least $20K to add that third row???

If they existed today, I would be shopping the Cosmos or Earth over the Gravity. Unless those were severely down-level like what BMW did with the iX3.

I am shopping for the best all around SUV for my use case and preferences, and cost is almost not a factor. But I will not drop premium money on a car if it feels like the car is overpriced for what it delivers. The Macan EV is slipping into this category, because no OPD, no hands-free ADAS, and relatively primitive UX. I have not formally ordered or weighted my preference, but here is my quick pass:
  1. Size - Enough room to store my bike in the back without removing the wheels, but no more than necessary
  2. Everything just works - Get in and drive every time with no drama and no supfluous button pushes (e.g. no on/off button or automated myQ integration)
  3. Dependability - I do not want to see a dealer any more often than once every couple years. Once a year is too much.
  4. Ride Quality - I want a more gentile city ride versus an agressive performance suspension or offroad suspension
  5. Audio system - I am spoiled and prefer the best audio system money can buy
  6. Complete Technology Stack - PaaK, good mobile app, phone projection, new features from regular OTAs, safety features, etc.
  7. Head-up Display - I really like driving with HUD so my eyes never need to leave the road
  8. Hands-free Highway ADAS - I do not use it often, but when I do, it is really nice
  9. Acceleration - I want a sub 4-second 0-60 car this time
  10. Luxury - I like cars that look and feel plush inside and out with leather seating and wood trim
  11. Range - I really only care about ~300 miles EPA. Anything more is not a differentiator to me.
(I wish we could edit posts after a little while. I would go back and refine this as I think about it more over time...)
 
tmichael said:
Just curious - if they don't offer discounted financing or some other financial incentive, will you keep waiting or go to a competitor? Please don't read anything into my question, good or bad - I just wonder if past pricing has driven the puchase decision or if the product drives the purchase decision. No wrong or right answer and certainly open to other forum member's comments.
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I like the (MPV )hahaha!
But Price is everthing!
I think if they sell it at 100k fully loaded they would sell them all.
At the current price with 0% APR makes up for the 120k price..
They sold out all the 2026 white with tahoe loaded 0 APR .The 2027 is 5.99 APR big different.
 
exxxviii said:
I know you did not ask me, but I am actively shopping the Gravity against about every other electric SUV available this year. For me, price is definitely a factor - or I should say value.

BEVs have been discounted 10% to 20% off MSRP for the past few years. That meant that cars like the BMW iX M70 that were similarly priced at $120K actually sold for around $100K. The Macan EV gets discounted 6% to 8%, so a similar MSRP Macan would actually be $10K cheaper than the Gravity. The Gravity is by far the most expensive car I am considering, so the key question I am asking myself is "is the Lucid Tax worth it?"

To justify its ultra premium price, the Gravity should be the leader in every nearly aspect of ownership: Best dealership experience, best driving, best performance, best quality, best dependability, best range, best looking, best pedigree, best audio system, best hands-free ADAS, best tech package, best interior, etc. In other words, a car at a non-discounted $120K price point ought to be darn near perfect in most every way.
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That's a very good take. I think the Gravity is superior to those other vehicles Specs wise, but it falls behind when it comes to the ownership experience. That's when the value proposition becomes harder to compare.
 
prgarg said:
That's a very good take. I think the Gravity is superior to those other vehicles Specs wise, but it falls behind when it comes to the ownership experience. That's when the value proposition becomes harder to compare.
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Totally agree. Compare Gravity to Cadillac Vistiq/Escalade, BMW ix/iX5, Porsche Cayenne EV and it is very competitive and wins in many spec areas. But anyone buying one of those is not worried about the company surviving and still being around 3-5 years from now and their service experience is exponentially better than current Lucid SC experience. Due to reason one (will Lucid surviving) I leased my Gravity which is first time in my life to lease a car. I did not expect item two (SC issues) but after recent poor experiences, I am seriously reconsidering my long term Lucid plans.

Here in Houston which is slowly moving existing ICE drivers to EVs, I have only seen one other Gravity than mine but see tons of the various sized Cadillac EV SUVs on the road. People here are more familiar with and TRUST Cadillac much more than Lucid. Specs don’t mean anything if people don’t trust the survivability and serviceability of the company.
 
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