OEM navigation - yay or nay?

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Are you guys satisfied with the OEM navigation on the Gravity? I have gotten so used to the efficient directions of Google Maps that I get frustrated at where the stock HERE navigation takes me when I use it. I always have to doubt if it's giving me the best directions that I never ruse it other than when I need to DC charge and precondition the car.

Thoughts? What do you guys do? Is there hope for improvement?
 
Are you guys satisfied with the OEM navigation on the Gravity? I have gotten so used to the efficient directions of Google Maps that I get frustrated at where the stock HERE navigation takes me when I use it. I always have to doubt if it's giving me the best directions that I never ruse it other than when I need to DC charge and precondition the car.

Thoughts? What do you guys do? Is there hope for improvement?
Welcome to the forums!

Please search the forums. There have been countless posts about this. Good search terms are “maps,” “Google Maps,” and “HERE maps.”

We don’t need another thread rehashing this. In summary: Lucid uses HERE maps. In 3.6, they just added Google Places search.

Some people have no issues whatsoever. I am one such person.

Others had lots of issues finding locations, but Google Places should help fix that.

Some have issues with the routes, but it is not consistent or widespread.

In short: your mileage may vary.

And if you don’t like it, there’s always CarPlay. :)
 
I am fine with it, unless I am actually under time pressure then I use Carplay and Waze to make sure it finds whatever live traffic and time reducing routes...
 
I'm in the Air so the UI is slightly different but the routing is (or at least should be) the same.

I find it...moderately okay. Not the best I've used (Waze in its pre-Google Days) not the worst either.

My main issue, other than the fact that it REALLY, REALLY wants me to take expensive express/toll roads even when it wouldn't save any time or distance, is that it occasionally takes me on unintended adventures.

For instance, when leaving my wife's work, it consistently tells me to take an impossible left turn, despite the median in the road preventing anyone not in a truck from doing so.

Or on my current road trip it routed me off the main highway into a rural/county road. I assumed that it was routing me around a traffic slowdown (like Waze) as I could see that the router would have me rejoin the highway about 25 miles later. At first it seemed fine, a nice 2-lane road with rural residential properties and a few small businesses. Then 7-8 miles in, the road suddenly changed. It got a little narrower, the lines went away, and there was a "rough road" sign. I could see on the map that there were some side roads that looked like they would take me back to the main highway, so I continued, and the road wasn't that bad, just a ton of patched former potholes. Then a few miles later, there was a sign that I didn't know what it meant. It sais "No traffic coverage". I asked Google about it And learned that it meant that you weren't supposed to be on that road unless you were a resident. However, by this point on that road all of the residences had disappeared, and there was absolutely NOTHING. I proceeded cautiously thinking I'd take the next side road back to the highway, only to find that the side roads were ill-kept dirt roads. At that point my choice was to either proceed cautiously or backtrack 10 plus miles.

I decided to risk it and continued. The road did eventually me to the road indicated by the routing that would take me back to the highway, given the nature of the road, it was entirely possible that it would have dead ended or become impassable before it actually connected to that. I got lucky.


But it was a mildly stressful situation, and I really have no idea why it decided to route me that way.

Other than that, MOST of the time the routing is fine. Not necessarily the quickest or most efficient but sufficient.

I believe in the Gravity/3.x version there is more customization of desired SoC at destination/charging stops, but even without that in the Air, the Charging stop planning is fine. It seems to aim for about 20% SoC for charging stops and 15% for final destination. Though it does seem to like to choose Tesla which sucks for an Air stuck at 50kw, but that is much less of a problem with the Gravity. Plus maybe (I'm hoping) the 3.x version is better about actually following the charging vendor filters during automatic routing because in the Air it seems to completely ignore that.

The main reason I continue using it, is because the interface is quite nice and readable along with the dual-screen capability and, because of the limitations in place from Google, and the size and shape of the top Lucid screen, running Waze in Android auto is small and difficult to read.
 
I decided to risk it and continued. The road did eventually me to the road indicated by the routing that would take me back to the highway, given the nature of the road, it was entirely possible that it would have dead ended or become impassable before it actually connected to that. I got lucky.
To be fair, it sounds less like luck and more like the nav knew it connected, right?
 
To be fair, it sounds less like luck and more like the nav knew it connected, right?
I dunno, given it's penchant for telling me to make impossible left turns, and another instance where it told me to take a turn that was fenced off and looked like it had been fenced off for many years (ie it wasn't a new change). Plus the fact that it was a road that isn't supposed to be open to public/thru traffic.

On hopes it knew, but past experience left me less than totally confident. 😁
 
I dunno, given it's penchant for telling me to make impossible left turns, and another instance where it told me to take a turn that was fenced off and looked like it had been fenced off for many years (ie it wasn't a new change). Plus the fact that it was a road that isn't supposed to be open to public/thru traffic.

On hopes it knew, but past experience left me less than totally confident. 😁

Fair enough :)
 
It does make some very questionable and head scratching suggestions. But my biggest beef is with the (in)ability of finding places, so 3.6 takes care of that by switching to Google search and being able to send addresses from other apps to the car.
 
As a relatively new owner I tried the Lucid nav this morning after reading this thread . My initial impression is good. I’ll use it for a while and see how it sorts out. I have to add that over the years Google has told me to turn left where there was nothing but a row of houses, directed me to a residence in the suburbs instead of Home Depot, told me to turn left in the face of a no left turn sign and more. None of these nav’s is perfect quite yet. Google may be better than the native app but I still check its routes on a map before shifting into drive. If you’re already rolling when you punch in a destination all you can do is hope that the route leads back to the main highway.
 
I got very accustomed to Apple Maps, especially before I retired as I was an IT/Cybersecurity consultant and often going to new locations. The Lucid nav feels like a big downgrade from that. It works ok but in the seven months I've had the Gravity it's given me more bad directions, missing locations or roads and weird rerouting to "avoid" traffic (that definitely takes longer) than I think Apple Maps did in 10 years. So usable but frustrating sometimes. If CarPlay/Android Auto were integrated and could have SoC data to plan charging and pass directions to the HUD I'd switch back. I mentioned that to the guys from the software team at EV Fest and they said they'd look at it but no promises.
 
My ranking and usage patterns of the available navigation guidance offerings based on what they are good at and my needs...
  1. Integrated systems (pretty much the same for all I have used) - Best at integration with the car and best presentation in all available screens. Sufficiently OK with everything else. I use the car's native nav most of the time for routine navigation.
  2. Waze - Best at traffic aware routing. I use Waze during heavily trafficked drives when the best route is my highest priority. Sometimes I will use it on road trips when I want LEO notifications.
  3. Apple Maps - Best at routing guidance for complex routes with many turns. I will use Apple Maps in urban areas or where I have multiple complex turns where lane positioning matters.
  4. Google Maps - Jack of all trades, master of none. I never use Google Maps. It is not particularly good at anything, but solidly OK.
 
I am fine with it, unless I am actually under time pressure then I use Carplay and Waze to make sure it finds whatever live traffic and time reducing routes...
This is what I usually do... When I go on long drives or new areas, I check both and usually choose Google Maps. Wish I can just stick to the OEM nav because it's so seamless on the Gravity.

PS - I see you're in Naperville! Hello from Champaign!
 
I'm in the Air so the UI is slightly different but the routing is (or at least should be) the same.

I find it...moderately okay. Not the best I've used (Waze in its pre-Google Days) not the worst either.

My main issue, other than the fact that it REALLY, REALLY wants me to take expensive express/toll roads even when it wouldn't save any time or distance, is that it occasionally takes me on unintended adventures.

For instance, when leaving my wife's work, it consistently tells me to take an impossible left turn, despite the median in the road preventing anyone not in a truck from doing so.

Or on my current road trip it routed me off the main highway into a rural/county road. I assumed that it was routing me around a traffic slowdown (like Waze) as I could see that the router would have me rejoin the highway about 25 miles later. At first it seemed fine, a nice 2-lane road with rural residential properties and a few small businesses. Then 7-8 miles in, the road suddenly changed. It got a little narrower, the lines went away, and there was a "rough road" sign. I could see on the map that there were some side roads that looked like they would take me back to the main highway, so I continued, and the road wasn't that bad, just a ton of patched former potholes. Then a few miles later, there was a sign that I didn't know what it meant. It sais "No traffic coverage". I asked Google about it And learned that it meant that you weren't supposed to be on that road unless you were a resident. However, by this point on that road all of the residences had disappeared, and there was absolutely NOTHING. I proceeded cautiously thinking I'd take the next side road back to the highway, only to find that the side roads were ill-kept dirt roads. At that point my choice was to either proceed cautiously or backtrack 10 plus miles.

I decided to risk it and continued. The road did eventually me to the road indicated by the routing that would take me back to the highway, given the nature of the road, it was entirely possible that it would have dead ended or become impassable before it actually connected to that. I got lucky.


But it was a mildly stressful situation, and I really have no idea why it decided to route me that way.

Other than that, MOST of the time the routing is fine. Not necessarily the quickest or most efficient but sufficient.

I believe in the Gravity/3.x version there is more customization of desired SoC at destination/charging stops, but even without that in the Air, the Charging stop planning is fine. It seems to aim for about 20% SoC for charging stops and 15% for final destination. Though it does seem to like to choose Tesla which sucks for an Air stuck at 50kw, but that is much less of a problem with the Gravity. Plus maybe (I'm hoping) the 3.x version is better about actually following the charging vendor filters during automatic routing because in the Air it seems to completely ignore that.

The main reason I continue using it, is because the interface is quite nice and readable along with the dual-screen capability and, because of the limitations in place from Google, and the size and shape of the top Lucid screen, running Waze in Android auto is small and difficult to read.
Wow, you have a big empathetic heart to say it was "mildly" stressful lol If I experienced that, I would never get back on the nav again :D
 
I can't say anything about Apple Maps since I haven't used an iPhone in a long time, but if we're comparing the built-in Lucid navigation, Waze, and Google Maps, the latter wins for me by a landslide. I used to like Waze at one point, but now that Maps has added user alerts, and especially after the recent UI updates, I only use Maps. I only rely on the built-in nav for long road trips when I need to route around charging stops, but even then, I double-check everything because I’ve run into situations a few times where it tried to route me through a closed road.

Just give you an idea what I mean:

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I can't say anything about Apple Maps since I haven't used an iPhone in a long time, but if we're comparing the built-in Lucid navigation, Waze, and Google Maps, the latter wins for me by a landslide. I used to like Waze at one point, but now that Maps has added user alerts, and especially after the recent UI updates, I only use Maps. I only rely on the built-in nav for long road trips when I need to route around charging stops, but even then, I double-check everything because I’ve run into situations a few times where it tried to route me through a closed road.

Just give you an idea what I mean:

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Holy smokes do you have the new Android Auto!? Looks so good!
 
I got very accustomed to Apple Maps, especially before I retired as I was an IT/Cybersecurity consultant and often going to new locations. The Lucid nav feels like a big downgrade from that. It works ok but in the seven months I've had the Gravity it's given me more bad directions, missing locations or roads and weird rerouting to "avoid" traffic (that definitely takes longer) than I think Apple Maps did in 10 years. So usable but frustrating sometimes. If CarPlay/Android Auto were integrated and could have SoC data to plan charging and pass directions to the HUD I'd switch back. I mentioned that to the guys from the software team at EV Fest and they said they'd look at it but no promises.
Google.maps should be able to habe soc very soinnthe states.
 
Holy smokes do you have the new Android Auto!? Looks so good!

Yeah, that's what was shown at Google I/O 2026, and I hope it'll be available to everyone soon. There are updates to Android Auto (UI changes and full-screen utilization), as well as Google Maps (new 3D compositing, lanes, junctions, hints, etc.).
 
Yeah, that's what was shown at Google I/O 2026, and I hope it'll be available to everyone soon. There are updates to Android Auto (UI changes and full-screen utilization), as well as Google Maps (new 3D compositing, lanes, junctions, hints, etc.).
that looks really good.
 
Yeah, that's what was shown at Google I/O 2026, and I hope it'll be available to everyone soon. There are updates to Android Auto (UI changes and full-screen utilization), as well as Google Maps (new 3D compositing, lanes, junctions, hints, etc.).
And why do you have it already? Beta version?
 
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