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I bought a Gravity with the 22/23 wheels. They are really gorgeous, but completely inadequate for a winter excursion. No snow here in California sea level, but I'd like to have a winter set to go up the mountains in the winter.

Has anybody done that?

I wonder if I need anything Lucid special, or whatever Tire Rack recommends works.
 
mfdutra said:
I bought a Gravity with the 22/23 wheels. They are really gorgeous, but completely inadequate for a winter excursion. No snow here in California sea level, but I'd like to have a winter set to go up the mountains in the winter.

Has anybody done that?

I wonder if I need anything Lucid special, or whatever Tire Rack recommends works.
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TireRack wheels would work fine, guaranteed to fit, efficiency may suffer a bit.
 
mfdutra said:
I bought a Gravity with the 22/23 wheels. They are really gorgeous, but completely inadequate for a winter excursion. No snow here in California sea level, but I'd like to have a winter set to go up the mountains in the winter.

Has anybody done that?

I wonder if I need anything Lucid special, or whatever Tire Rack recommends works.
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In case you haven’t seen the lucid option: https://store.lucidmotors.com/gravity-winter-wheel-tire-package/
 
When I first started reading this forum there wasn't really a 3PMSF option out there for the 22/23's...has that changed?

I opted for the higher sidewall 20/21's, which are the wheels Lucid offers on it's "winter" wheel pkg, and come winter plan to put Michelin Cross Climate 2's or Vredestein Quatrac Pro+ (both A/S tires w/ 3PMSF rating) on for better handling/traction in snow and pothole prone mountain roads and save the Hankook Ion EVO's for spring-fall to get the higher range.

I agree with @TahoeMichael that as you descend out of the mountains to lower elevations that an A/S tire is better than a full-on winter tire option
 
TahoeMichael said:
I think a dedicated winter tire isn't a great choice for someone in California who is doing mixed driving from sea level up to the mountains. You could buy a set of OEM wheels from Lucid, but I'd recommend fitting an all season tire, possibly one with the 3PMSF logo for maximum performance in the cold.
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I agree. I was just listing the option for completeness.
 
TahoeMichael said:
I think a dedicated winter tire isn't a great choice for someone in California who is doing mixed driving from sea level up to the mountains. You could buy a set of OEM wheels from Lucid, but I'd recommend fitting an all season tire, possibly one with the 3PMSF logo for maximum performance in the cold.
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I really don't go often to the mountains. Maybe once or twice a winter. I wouldn't keep the winter tires all winter. My rationale is that, if I'm spending the money to have two full sets, I better have a proper winter set, instead of the summer ones plus all season ones. Does that make sense?

If I had ordered the car, I'd order with the 20/21 wheels and all season tires. But they aren't taking orders and the best spec I could find that matched my other preferences had the 22/23 wheels.
 
mfdutra said:
I really don't go often to the mountains. Maybe once or twice a winter. I wouldn't keep the winter tires all winter. My rationale is that, if I'm spending the money to have two full sets, I better have a proper winter set, instead of the summer ones plus all season ones. Does that make sense?

If I had ordered the car, I'd order with the 20/21 wheels and all season tires. But they aren't taking orders and the best spec I could find that matched my other preferences had the 22/23 wheels.
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Problem is the "A/S" Hankooks the 20/21's come with aren't real 3PMSF snow rated tires. :confused:
I get maybe ~8-10 trips from the coast to Tahoe & back in each winter and will not go up there (especially via Hwy 88) on non-snow rated tires. But...by the time you get to Jackson or the Sac foothills the rest of the 3-4hr drive is on paved roads well below the snow level and will wear out a set of dedicated "winter" tires in one season!

I haven't yet seen or heard of a snow rated tire option anywhere for the 22/23's...have you or anyone else on here?? That might mean you're buying another set of wheels too, not just tires.
 
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hwy17er said:
Problem is the "A/S" Hankooks the 20/21's come with aren't snow rated tires. :confused:
I get maybe ~8-10 trips from the coast to Tahoe & back in each winter and will not go up there (especially via Hwy 88) on non-snow rated tires. But...by the time you get to Jackson or the Sac foothills the rest of the 3-4hr drive is on paved roads well below the snow level and will wear out a set of dedicated "winter" tires in one season!

I haven't yet seen or heard of a snow rated tire option anywhere for the 22/23's...have you or anyone else on here?? That might mean you're buying another set of wheels too, not just tires.
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I believe the Hankooks have a M+S rating, as any "All Season" tire does. They just don't have the higher grade 3PMSF rating. Living up at Lake Tahoe, I fit 3PMSF tires to my car because I cannot avoid driving in snow storms and on unplowed roads. I think many visitors to the mountains just don't drive in those conditions, but everyone needs to make their own judgement. I never fit winter tires, because even in mid-winter the California mountains are often warmer than what pure winter tires are really designed for. And as you note, getting out of the mountains it's much much warmer.
 
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mfdutra said:
I really don't go often to the mountains. Maybe once or twice a winter. I wouldn't keep the winter tires all winter. My rationale is that, if I'm spending the money to have two full sets, I better have a proper winter set, instead of the summer ones plus all season ones. Does that make sense?

If I had ordered the car, I'd order with the 20/21 wheels and all season tires. But they aren't taking orders and the best spec I could find that matched my other preferences had the 22/23 wheels.
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GIven the scenario you describe, I'd advise against a pure winter tire. Unless your destination is to a unusually cold part of the state. Even living here in Lake Tahoe I don't buy dedicated winter tires, and neither do any of my neighbors.
 
TahoeMichael said:
You're driving the Millennium Falcon, it appears!
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That's taken between Truckee and Tahoe City on Hwy 89
I know you get it.
For you this could be just trying to get home!

Those lower M + S rated tires don't cut it for me
 
hwy17er said:
That might mean you're buying another set of wheels too, not just tires.
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That's correct. Tire Rack is offering a new set of 21" wheels and tires for $1900.

Replacing just the tires on the 22/23 is a lot more than that.
 
mfdutra said:
That's correct. Tire Rack is offering a new set of 21" wheels and tires for $1900.

Replacing just the tires on the 22/23 is a lot more than that.
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TahoeMichael said:
GIven the scenario you describe, I'd advise against a pure winter tire. Unless your destination is to a unusually cold part of the state. Even living here in Lake Tahoe I don't buy dedicated winter tires, and neither do any of my neighbors.
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I still agree w/ @TahoeMichael that 3PMSF rated A/S tires are indeed "a proper winter set"
Also, those tires usually have a much better speed rating than say a Nokian winter tire. It's too tempting in the Gravity not to push the envelope past where you'd be as safe on the drive home. You're only as safe as your tires.

..jus' sayin'
 
I appreciate the suggestions. My car is 3-year lease. If I buy a set of 3PMSF 20/21 and just use year round, it will probably be cheaper than just replacing the 22/23 tires before I return the lease.

I don't want to necessarily optimize for cost.

I love how these 22/23 look. They're so gorgeous! But they are a pain in the ass.
 
Can anyone confirm that Lucid's "Gravity Winter Wheel & Tire Package" is 20"/21" front and rear? Their website actually does not list this detail.

Interestingly on page 263 of the owner's manual, it states "For winter tires, always install a complete set of four tires at the same time. All winter tires should be the same diameter, brand, construction, and tread pattern on all four wheels." SAME DIAMETER!
 
F=GMm/r2 said:
Can anyone confirm that Lucid's "Gravity Winter Wheel & Tire Package" is 20"/21" front and rear? Their website actually does not list this detail.

Interestingly on page 263 of the owner's manual, it states "For winter tires, always install a complete set of four tires at the same time. All winter tires should be the same diameter, brand, construction, and tread pattern on all four wheels." SAME DIAMETER!
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It’s 20/21. TireRack lists the two approved tires. And anyone going with a winter tire, aftermarket 21” wheels won’t clear the rear parking brake. Lucid worked some dark magic to make them fit…
 
F=GMm/r2 said:
Can anyone confirm that Lucid's "Gravity Winter Wheel & Tire Package" is 20"/21" front and rear? Their website actually does not list this detail.

Interestingly on page 263 of the owner's manual, it states "For winter tires, always install a complete set of four tires at the same time. All winter tires should be the same diameter, brand, construction, and tread pattern on all four wheels." SAME DIAMETER!
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@marqie that should really be updated in the manual, as that confused at least one other person I know, too.
 
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