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I got the 3.5.1 update installed today. It said about 1hr install, sat at 10% for 30 mins and then was magically installed complete. I did my standard soft reset and took the car for a 30 mi roundtrip drive. So far so good.

Took me a minute to find the icon and get my phone paired or started. Then I used Youtube Music, I still found it easier to go to my phone to search for a favorite playlist, but I did find the sound quality seemed better through Carplay than what I had been doing previously with Youtube music through the Native music app via bluetooth. Then about 5 mins into the drive Carplay randomly disconnected, not sure if my phone did something weird or dropped bluetooth, but I had to unlock it and it automatically reconnected.

Used Google maps and had it search for an Evgo fast charger. Have to say this experience was not all that great. Picked a charge station, I manually pre-conditioned when I was 5 minutes away (obviously the car doesn't know you are going to a charger). Of course no information on the station, so arrived, it was almost full (Chevy Equinox parked plugged in with no charging), and I found an old EvGo post that was 100KW (wasn't going for speed, just the process). Plugged in with the adapter, it errored out the first time since I think I didn't get the adapter fully in. Had to start the charge in the EvGO app as normal.

Would have really liked Carplay last weekend when some freak weather or cloud cover caused the GPS to freak out. Native Nav was stuck in a 'recalculating' loop as it couldn't triangulate my car's position and was convinced I should be driving 15mph through a forest preserve near the highway lol. In that sense would have been great to have Carplay and Waze (I still most prefer its routing logic) as a backup since my phone has better reception.

I did mess with other things, like you can have the native NAV running on the lower screen, and this is actually surprisingly useful that Carplay is on top always, and you can use all the rest of the native UI functions at the same time in the lower screen.
 
Apple Carplay works great in the Air, but there are some limitations that are the nature of CarPlay and not Lucid. For example on Apple Music, you can only search wihin your existing library unless you seach on the phone. In a Tesla, they have thier own native app which allow you to search all of Apple Music, but, you can only add one song at a time. I like that for music discovery, but, the Tesla native solution does not accuratly show all albums within an Artist. Both have their limitations.

As far as GPS, no idea which source pulls from where, I only use Apple Maps and haven't had a problem.
 
illopp00 said:
I got the 3.5.1 update installed today. It said about 1hr install, sat at 10% for 30 mins and then was magically installed complete. I did my standard soft reset and took the car for a 30 mi roundtrip drive. So far so good.

Took me a minute to find the icon and get my phone paired or started. Then I used Youtube Music, I still found it easier to go to my phone to search for a favorite playlist, but I did find the sound quality seemed better through Carplay than what I had been doing previously with Youtube music through the Native music app via bluetooth. Then about 5 mins into the drive Carplay randomly disconnected, not sure if my phone did something weird or dropped bluetooth, but I had to unlock it and it automatically reconnected.

Used Google maps and had it search for an Evgo fast charger. Have to say this experience was not all that great. Picked a charge station, I manually pre-conditioned when I was 5 minutes away (obviously the car doesn't know you are going to a charger). Of course no information on the station, so arrived, it was almost full (Chevy Equinox parked plugged in with no charging), and I found an old EvGo post that was 100KW (wasn't going for speed, just the process). Plugged in with the adapter, it errored out the first time since I think I didn't get the adapter fully in. Had to start the charge in the EvGO app as normal.

Would have really liked Carplay last weekend when some freak weather or cloud cover caused the GPS to freak out. Native Nav was stuck in a 'recalculating' loop as it couldn't triangulate my car's position and was convinced I should be driving 15mph through a forest preserve near the highway lol. In that sense would have been great to have Carplay and Waze (I still most prefer its routing logic) as a backup since my phone has better reception.

I did mess with other things, like you can have the native NAV running on the lower screen, and this is actually surprisingly useful that Carplay is on top always, and you can use all the rest of the native UI functions at the same time in the lower screen.
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FWIW, PlugShare has a CarPlay app.
 
socktucker said:
As far as GPS, no idea which source pulls from where, I only use Apple Maps and haven't had a problem.
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If you are connected via wireless CarPlay, it will use the car’s GPS, so that would not have solved whatever temporary GPS issue @illopp00 was having.

Wireless CarPlay always uses the car's GPS since you may have the phone in a handbag, pocket, etc., away from satellites. When using wired CarPlay, it should use the phone's GPS, but can use the car's GPS as a backup.

So if you’re having issues, plug in and see if that helps.
 
illopp00 said:
Yup I can see it popping up in the list of the UI, can it then send the directions to Google Maps or Waze?
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Tbh I don’t know, I rarely use it. I just know it exists. :)

Report back! :)
 
borski said:
If you are connected via wireless CarPlay, it will use the car’s GPS, so that would not have solved whatever temporary GPS issue @illopp00 was having.

Wireless CarPlay always uses the car's GPS since you may have the phone in a handbag, pocket, etc., away from satellites. When using wired CarPlay, it should use the phone's GPS, but can use the car's GPS as a backup.

So if you’re having issues, plug in and see if that helps.
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In that case I was actually using Native Lucid Nav and it was not locating the car. Good to know then even Carplay would override my phones Waze unless I used wired.
 
illopp00 said:
In that case I was actually using Native Lucid Nav and it was not locating the car. Good to know then even Carplay would override my phones Waze unless I used wired.
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certainly for me wireless CarPlay if I used Waze for navigation the lucid have went to map only no directions and then vice versa. Will try wired. Since I’d prefer Waze to navigation for traffics etc but then hud removes directions etc
 
illopp00 said:
In that case I was actually using Native Lucid Nav and it was not locating the car. Good to know then even Carplay would override my phones Waze unless I used wired.
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Right! My only point was that wireless CarPlay (which is what most people use) wouldn’t have fixed the issue. Wired might have; unclear.
 
Dank said:
certainly for me wireless CarPlay if I used Waze for navigation the lucid have went to map only no directions and then vice versa. Will try wired. Since I’d prefer Waze to navigation for traffics etc but then hud removes directions etc
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Oh that’s an interesting point; I wonder if wired CarPlay would allow both Google Maps and native navigation to function simultaneously since they may not be sharing GPS? I haven’t tested that, but now I’m curious.
 
borski said:
Oh that’s an interesting point; I wonder if wired CarPlay would allow both Google Maps and native navigation to function simultaneously since they may not be sharing GPS? I haven’t tested that, but now I’m curious.
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I’m at an appointment but will try it on the way home.
 
marqie said:
Apple restricts using only with one app for turn by turn navigation.
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Just going to say that's another reason why it would have been nice for Lucid to incorporate the CarPlay EV API to share charge data and let Apple Maps/Google Maps do correct EV routing with charging stops.
 
CarPlay worked really well for me today. I love being able to have CarPlay up for phone calls, texts and apps, but still be able to use native Nav. One thing that would be good to look at in the next update is traffic management for the screen where CarPlay is displayed; when I pulled up to my garage the Homelink screen displayed over CarPlay as it should, but when I got close enough to entering for the Parking Display to appear, only the Overhead view on the center console screen popped-up ; CarPlay seemed to block the Front View from populating the right side of the upper screen. I had to stop and dismiss CarPlay and manually select Park from the Home Screen to get both Parking displays.

I also like the way I can toggle between the CarPlay screen and the Lucid screen in my Air; I have to navigate to the Lucid menu in CarPlay on the Gravity to get back to the native Lucid Home Screen for the right side of the upper panel.
 
billvb said:
I also like the way I can toggle between the CarPlay screen and the Lucid screen in my Air; I have to navigate to the Lucid menu in CarPlay on the Gravity to get back to the native Lucid Home Screen for the right side of the upper panel.
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There's a button along the top of the screen to toggle the CarPlay display off and go back to the native interface.

Borrowed a clip of someone else's pic but the circled icon will toggle CarPlay off/on:
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RandomDesign said:
Just going to say that's another reason why it would have been nice for Lucid to incorporate the CarPlay EV API to share charge data and let Apple Maps/Google Maps do correct EV routing with charging stops.
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Sounds like a good recommendation for the [email protected] alias. I'm sure they wanted to get something out "quickly" since this was supposed to included on the Gravity at launch.
 
RandomDesign said:
There's a button along the top of the screen to toggle the CarPlay display off and go back to the native interface.

Borrowed a clip of someone else's pic but the circled icon will toggle CarPlay off/on:View attachment 37531
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Yeah, I tried that @RandomDesign, but it didn't toggle for me. Will try again next drive.
 
billvb said:
CarPlay worked really well for me today. I love being able to have CarPlay up for phone calls, texts and apps, but still be able to use native Nav. One thing that would be good to look at in the next update is traffic management for the screen where CarPlay is displayed; when I pulled up to my garage the Homelink screen displayed over CarPlay as it should, but when I got close enough to entering for the Parking Display to appear, only the Overhead view on the center console screen popped-up ; CarPlay seemed to block the Front View from populating the right side of the upper screen. I had to stop and dismiss CarPlay and manually select Park from the Home Screen to get both Parking displays.

I also like the way I can toggle between the CarPlay screen and the Lucid screen in my Air; I have to navigate to the Lucid menu in CarPlay on the Gravity to get back to the native Lucid Home Screen for the right side of the upper panel.
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You can exit CarPlay via the buttons on the Gravity display. you can press the CarPlay symbol above the CarPlay display to return to the Gravity UI. You can do the same to return to CarPlay.
 
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