After over a year of ownership, I still don't understand the entry/approach software of this car

Doesn't the car eventually lock itself after a certain period of time? Does your BMW lock itself after a period of time?
My Volvo annoyingly doesn't so it's become habit to just lock all our vehicles once we get out. It's also how you spot the downstate New Yorker in the Midwest parking lot- the only one locking his doors!
If passive locking is turned off, the Lucid will stay open. It will not lock itself after a period of time.

The BMW has a completely different system. It uses Ultra Wideband with Apple Digital Key+ (in my Apple Wallet) so when any attached device is sensed leaving the area of the car, it will lock. If it senses a device approaching (within about 5-10 feet) it will unlock. It works 100%. It can sense my iPhone or Apple Watch. It can be set to stay unlocked when at home. It works quite well, and I do not need to take my phone out of my pocket, have the BMW app launched, or have my phone awake.

I want my Lucid to work the same way. But I understand that, as a 2022 model, it's not going to. That is forgivable. Now that Lucid has the benefit of hindsight, I think it's unforgivable they haven't replaced the system in newer models. This is a major reason holding me back from replacing my current GT with a new GT. If the 2027 models do not have an updated system, I will shop elsewhere. And that's a shame, because I otherwise love the car.
 
If passive locking is turned off, the Lucid will stay open. It will not lock itself after a period of time.

The BMW has a completely different system. It uses Ultra Wideband with Apple Digital Key+ (in my Apple Wallet) so when any attached device is sensed leaving the area of the car, it will lock. If it senses a device approaching (within about 5-10 feet) it will unlock. It works 100%. It can sense my iPhone or Apple Watch. It can be set to stay unlocked when at home. It works quite well, and I do not need to take my phone out of my pocket, have the BMW app launched, or have my phone awake.

I want my Lucid to work the same way. But I understand that, as a 2022 model, it's not going to. That is forgivable. Now that Lucid has the benefit of hindsight, I think it's unforgivable they haven't replaced the system in newer models. This is a major reason holding me back from replacing my current GT with a new GT. If the 2027 models do not have an updated system, I will shop elsewhere. And that's a shame, because I otherwise love the car.
Cough Cough... 100% of the time, lol.

My 2022 works fantastically, nearly 95% of the time. And 100% has never left me locked out of the vehicle. I only use the mobile key via iPhone. I have never had any of the issues described in your 2022.
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Cough Cough... 100% of the time, lol.

My 2022 works fantastically, nearly 95% of the time. And 100% has never left me locked out of the vehicle. I only use the mobile key via iPhone. I have never had any of the issues described in your 2022.
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Cough, cough .. Both links you posted do not apply lol. The first one was user error and resolved by proper setup as noted later in that thread The second one is a 2023 model that does not have Digital Key Plus found in my 2025 X5 50e.

My opinions are based on personal experiences, not random web searches. My Air always works, but with a delay I find unacceptable and often requires I fish my phone out and wake it. It also does not work at all from the rear of the car. Come by my house sometime and we will compare.
 
Cough, cough .. Both links you posted do not apply lol. The first one was user error and resolved by proper setup as noted later in that thread The second one is a 2023 model that does not have Digital Key Plus found in my 2025 X5 50e.

My opinions are based on personal experiences, not random web searches. My Air always works, but with a delay I find unacceptable and often requires I fish my phone out and wake it. It also does not work at all from the rear of the car. Come by my house sometime and we will compare.
I never ever use my phone. I use my key fob 100% of the time, and have put it in a cheap fake leather case with a larger battery that has now lasted many months. The door handle press method works about 50% of the time. Pressing the key fob button works the other 50%, so I am never locked out anymore, except for the one time the fob battery died shortly after car delivery.

All in all, I have worked around the terrible lock/unlock design to enjoy a really fine car.

The real question is why LUCID has not dealt wth this. The topic of secret contracts and gag clauses is a poor excuse.
 

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To put it lightly, my wife and I strongly dislike the software for entry/approach to our Air. It just seems to be wrong, or slow, or unnecessarily early far, far too often. We have one other car, an 11 year old BMW, that also has keyless entry. Our prior vehicles had regular, old-fashioned entry where a key was needed so I'll use the BMW as a baseline. In the BMW, there are two keys, each of which is synced to a profile for one of us. We can also access either profile (or a guest profile) from either key and it will immediately change. Like the Lucid, the BMW recognizes which key arrives at the car, and will *immediately* move the driver's seat, adjust volume, climate control, and mirrors so that by the time the driver even sits down, the car is ready to go. There is no lag or long waiting time. Seatbelt, shift, go. Compare this to the Lucid where it seems like the seat is the last thing to move. No, I do not want to enable easy entry-exit, but I quite literally cannot fit in the vehicle if my wife drove it last. So when I open the driver's door, I start manually moving the seat with the buttons on the side because the car takes. so. long. to do it itself. Once I'm seated and the profile is finally loaded, I will go into the seats menu on the pilot panel and restore the seat to get the exact position I want it. So, that's the first problem: the profiles take forever to load and the seat seems like the last thing to load, but should really be the first (and isn't adjustable from the app).

Next is the proximity unlocking of the car. For the BMW, it stays locked until the doorhandle is grabbed, at which point it unlocks *immediately*. Again, there is no wait. Approach a locked car, pull the door handle, and it unlocks (and the seat moves immediately, as stated above). For the Lucid, the proximity always seems to be different on when it decides to unlock. Sometimes it'll unlock while we're in the house or when we're coming back from walking the dogs. Sometimes it won't unlock and we have to open the app and do it manually. On occasion, it actually works as expected while we're just a few feet away and actually approaching the car. I understand this needs to be a little different than the BMW because the Lucid doesn't have grab-able door handles, but the software still seems all wacky. We were actually at a friend's house and our friend asked why our car's lights were on. Turns out, the car decided to unlock itself while we were sitting in our friend's living room. So we opened the app and locked it. Later, it unlocked again. And again. And again. All while we were in the living room. If we were in a sketchy part of town, this would have been a great time for thieves. I simply want the car to unlock when I am actually approaching the car, and do it consistently just before I reach the door.

Next, the car picks the wrong profile all the time. No matter the situation, who arrives first, if we have the keys or just our phones, it's a complete guessing game on which profile the car will load up. If we're running errands, we'll actually often just decide who is driving based on which profile the car decided to load because it's faster and easier for us to look into the car, see the profile, and choose our seats accordingly than it is to change the profile to the person who was planning on driving. Again, this happens even if one of us stays several steps back from the car while the other approaches.

Finally, Bluetooth. I think this sort of fits under this same category, but the car decides to connect to the Bluetooth on one of our phones while we're just chilling in the house. And it does this all the time. I don't want the car to connect to my phone's Bluetooth at all unless I'm actually in the car, let alone 50 ft away in the basement of my house. We can be watching a video on our phone, and all of a sudden, the video will stop because the car has decided to connect to our phone. It's simply ridiculous that this even happens at all.
I used to be a BMW owner/driver. That company has had decades to refine its cars and, don't forget, that with the I3 it was one of the earliest EV providers. Buying a car from a new company will produce some early adopter issues. One has to decide if one is willing to put with those to get what is a terrific driving vehicle.
 
I used to be a BMW owner/driver. That company has had decades to refine its cars and, don't forget, that with the I3 it was one of the earliest EV providers. Buying a car from a new company will produce some early adopter issues. One has to decide if one is willing to put with those to get what is a terrific driving vehicle.
I would agree with your early adopter sentiment IF we were talking about an innovative new feature that Lucid is trying to develop in order to differentiate their product. But we're talking about doors. Generally, modern doors have been around since the industrial revolution. I would argue that more specifically, keyless door entry in the auto industry has been perfected since the late 2000s. There's zero benefit to this BLE scheme they've tried to engineer, from the user perspective at least.

I don't regret my decision on the Air because of the keyless entry situation, but I likely wouldn't make the same decision again.
 
I have had zero issues with my Air in the week I’ve had it 🤷

I also have 2 Teslas and they’re both kinda buggy about phone key, set each other off sometimes, and I’ve been just locked out several times over the years.
 
I had a 2023 Pure for 2 years before getting rid of it and now have 2025 Touring for about 1.5 months now. The unlock with mobile key is still a big issue. I mostly use my key card to unlock because it's reliable..but for the times I don't have my wallet with me but phone in pocket, I'm left standing outside my car like an idiot waiting for the car to recognize it. Pixel 6 android 16 btw. Still love the car, but they need to improve this.
 
I've had terrible unlocking experiences in the past ('23 touring owner here) but I think around the time when 2.5 or 2.6 came around, coupled with upgrading to a pixel 9 pro and re setting up the mobile key - I actually don't recall the last time my doors didn't unlock when approaching the car. This is with carrying around both the physical fob as well as my phone. It's annoying to have to do both but it's less annoying than the doors not opening, hence why I do it. Not saying that this will work for everyone but it has been working well for me.
 
Fear not. There's this video car reviewer who, after three years, still doesn't know, nor care to learn, even though he talks to Lucid insiders, how the passive lock/unlock works. For those who can't read and won't learn: Be like him = be dumb as a rock and still love the car.

let the fob be with you
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I had a 2023 Pure for 2 years before getting rid of it and now have 2025 Touring for about 1.5 months now. The unlock with mobile key is still a big issue. I mostly use my key card to unlock because it's reliable..but for the times I don't have my wallet with me but phone in pocket, I'm left standing outside my car like an idiot waiting for the car to recognize it. Pixel 6 android 16 btw. Still love the car, but they need to improve this.
Once in a while I need to take my phone out of my pocket and tap on the Lucid app. Then the car recognizes my phone (Pixel 10, android 16).
Check that the Lucid app's "Allow Background Usage" is set to "Unrestricted" (Tap on "Allow Background Usage" to see this setting).
 
Fear not. There's this video car reviewer who, after three years, still doesn't know, nor care to learn, even though he talks to Lucid insiders, how the passive lock/unlock works. For those who can't read and won't learn: Be like him = be dumb as a rock and still love the car.

let the fob be with you
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I turned my passive unlock off since the first few weeks of owning the car. I got tired of it triggering constantly as I worked in the garage.

The door button push method works about 50% of the time. The other 50% works when I push the fob button. I always carry my key card. I never eneble my phone AP. My larger battery is still OK after over 6 months.

All in all, using the above methods I worked around the unlocking issue to enjoy a wonderful car. BUT, one cannot deny that LUCID has an unsolved problem in this area.
 
Once in a while I need to take my phone out of my pocket and tap on the Lucid app. Then the car recognizes my phone (Pixel 10, android 16).
Check that the Lucid app's "Allow Background Usage" is set to "Unrestricted" (Tap on "Allow Background Usage" to see this setting).
I must have overlooked that setting. It's now set for Unrestricted. We will see if I get some improvement. Thanks
 
I must have overlooked that setting. It's now set for Unrestricted. We will see if I get some improvement. Thanks
They keep it pretty well hidden.
 
I must have overlooked that setting. It's now set for Unrestricted. We will see if I get some improvement. Thanks
Keep an eye on it and you'll notice it will change back to "Optimized" after a seemingly random amount of time. I have a lengthy thread on the subject in the App section.
 
Keep an eye on it and you'll notice it will change back to "Optimized" after a seemingly random amount of time.
May change back. Mine stuck on Unrestricted.
 
To put it lightly, my wife and I strongly dislike the software for entry/approach to our Air. It just seems to be wrong, or slow, or unnecessarily early far, far too often. We have one other car, an 11 year old BMW, that also has keyless entry. Our prior vehicles had regular, old-fashioned entry where a key was needed so I'll use the BMW as a baseline. In the BMW, there are two keys, each of which is synced to a profile for one of us. We can also access either profile (or a guest profile) from either key and it will immediately change. Like the Lucid, the BMW recognizes which key arrives at the car, and will *immediately* move the driver's seat, adjust volume, climate control, and mirrors so that by the time the driver even sits down, the car is ready to go. There is no lag or long waiting time. Seatbelt, shift, go. Compare this to the Lucid where it seems like the seat is the last thing to move. No, I do not want to enable easy entry-exit, but I quite literally cannot fit in the vehicle if my wife drove it last. So when I open the driver's door, I start manually moving the seat with the buttons on the side because the car takes. so. long. to do it itself. Once I'm seated and the profile is finally loaded, I will go into the seats menu on the pilot panel and restore the seat to get the exact position I want it. So, that's the first problem: the profiles take forever to load and the seat seems like the last thing to load, but should really be the first (and isn't adjustable from the app).

Next is the proximity unlocking of the car. For the BMW, it stays locked until the doorhandle is grabbed, at which point it unlocks *immediately*. Again, there is no wait. Approach a locked car, pull the door handle, and it unlocks (and the seat moves immediately, as stated above). For the Lucid, the proximity always seems to be different on when it decides to unlock. Sometimes it'll unlock while we're in the house or when we're coming back from walking the dogs. Sometimes it won't unlock and we have to open the app and do it manually. On occasion, it actually works as expected while we're just a few feet away and actually approaching the car. I understand this needs to be a little different than the BMW because the Lucid doesn't have grab-able door handles, but the software still seems all wacky. We were actually at a friend's house and our friend asked why our car's lights were on. Turns out, the car decided to unlock itself while we were sitting in our friend's living room. So we opened the app and locked it. Later, it unlocked again. And again. And again. All while we were in the living room. If we were in a sketchy part of town, this would have been a great time for thieves. I simply want the car to unlock when I am actually approaching the car, and do it consistently just before I reach the door.

Next, the car picks the wrong profile all the time. No matter the situation, who arrives first, if we have the keys or just our phones, it's a complete guessing game on which profile the car will load up. If we're running errands, we'll actually often just decide who is driving based on which profile the car decided to load because it's faster and easier for us to look into the car, see the profile, and choose our seats accordingly than it is to change the profile to the person who was planning on driving. Again, this happens even if one of us stays several steps back from the car while the other approaches.

Finally, Bluetooth. I think this sort of fits under this same category, but the car decides to connect to the Bluetooth on one of our phones while we're just chilling in the house. And it does this all the time. I don't want the car to connect to my phone's Bluetooth at all unless I'm actually in the car, let alone 50 ft away in the basement of my house. We can be watching a video on our phone, and all of a sudden, the video will stop because the car has decided to connect to our phone. It's simply ridiculous that this even happens at all.
Please let us all know if you ever figure it out!
 
Another setting to check, just a bit below the battery usage is the one that lets Android periodically remove permissions. You'll likely want to turn this off.

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