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I confess, I had started to believe that 5+ miles a kWh was just marketing puffery, but it turns out it just had to warm up outside. No, I don’t see this often, but in case you are wondering, yes, a 2025 Air Pure really can hit its EPA rating now and then!
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Not saying the OP's numbers are not accurate or great, but I get numbers like that all the time since I live at a few hundred feet of elevation, and if I drive "down" to the flats and drive around I see numbers like this all the time, even the famous 6.21 number for long periods (and drops lower rapidly when going up back uphill). My lifetime average is in the low 3's (driving style), but can get 4+ on trips that have a lot of freeway and not exceeding low 70's.
 
RAF42 said:
Not saying the OP's numbers are not accurate or great, but I get numbers like that all the time since I live at a few hundred feet of elevation, and if I drive "down" to the flats and drive around I see numbers like this all the time, even the famous 6.21 number for long periods (and drops lower rapidly when going up back uphill). My lifetime average is in the low 3's (driving style), but can get 4+ on trips that have a lot of freeway and not exceeding low 70's.
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That totally makes sense. This was a drive "in traffic" with a bit of 50's - 60's but no descent or ascent to speak of. Temps were probably about ideal (70s). But it was still fun to see. My long-distance freeway (low 70's) average is around 4.2. Shorter trips around town cumulatively get me about 3.5.
 
Cosmo Cruz said:
for perspective: 2022 Air GT.
6 mo 21" summer / 6 mo 19" A/S
SE PA = sub-freezing to 100 F.

20k miles average = 3.32 mi /kWh
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Hey Cosmo, Lehigh Valley guy here, so I get what you’re saying about the tire switch. Not to commingle subjects, but what A/S you running?
 
petergottlieb said:
I confess, I had started to believe that 5+ miles a kWh was just marketing puffery, but it turns out it just had to warm up outside. No, I don’t see this often, but in case you are wondering, yes, a 2025 Air Pure really can hit its EPA rating now and then!
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how fast were you driving? what is optimum speed?
 
Bonanzajohn said:
how fast were you driving? what is optimum speed?
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This was a drive "in traffic" with a bit of 50's - 60's but no descent or ascent to speak of. Temps were probably about ideal (70s). But it was still fun to see. My long-distance freeway (low 70's) average is around 4.2. Shorter trips around town cumulatively get me about 3.5.
 
petergottlieb said:
I confess, I had started to believe that 5+ miles a kWh was just marketing puffery, but it turns out it just had to warm up outside. No, I don’t see this often, but in case you are wondering, yes, a 2025 Air Pure really can hit its EPA rating now and then!
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Wish I could say I am getting 5+, but today on a 50 mile round trip between LOng Beach and Laguna Beach, mostly on freeways, I got 4.50m/kwh. First time this has happened where I got more than 4m/kwh for a stretch. I have 4,100 miles on my 2025 Air Pure in Stealth Black with graphite trim and interior. A very hot car in both senses of the word. During the Summer I got at best 3.5m/kwh pretty continously. I drive pretty conservatively, keeping my speed to between 70 and 75 mph. Love the car but really don''t know how people get 4+ regularly. I think my problem is the color of the car. It is a heat sink and the AC really doesn't cut it in this car's configuation.
 
MitchellK said:
Wish I could say I am getting 5+, but today on a 50 mile round trip between LOng Beach and Laguna Beach, mostly on freeways, I got 4.50m/kwh. First time this has happened where I got more than 4m/kwh for a stretch. I have 4,100 miles on my 2025 Air Pure in Stealth Black with graphite trim and interior. A very hot car in both senses of the word. During the Summer I got at best 3.5m/kwh pretty continously. I drive pretty conservatively, keeping my speed to between 70 and 75 mph. Love the car but really don''t know how people get 4+ regularly. I think my problem is the color of the car. It is a heat sink and the AC really doesn't cut it in this car's configuation.
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What is the exterior temp? My life of vehicle average is 3.9 (8,500 miles). On the freeway I am usually between 4 and 4.25 in the summer. HVAC doesn't struggle to keep up in the Mid-Atlantic or the Midwest, but it does seem like other folks have the same issue you have. I have the aero wheels - but I took the covers off because they look janky to me and the Lucid Studio folks said the range impact was under 5 percent.
 
This has been a very hot summer in Long Beach CA. Many days over 90 and most days at least in the high 80s. My car is parked outside because it doesn't fit inn our garage.I car cover it with the Lucid top notch car cover. Since the car is deep black with graphite trim, it heats up to over 100 in the cabin while parked most every day. THE AC system is lack luster compared to my old glc300. (THis has been a comment I have noticed on most Lucids where someone has mentioned the AC). I have to run the AC on 10 for at least 20 minutes to cool the cabin down to manageable level. I believe I got 4.5 yesterday because the air temp we in the mid 70s. I am hoping that, as we move into the Fall and Winter here, it will allow my car to get over 4 most days. We'll see. If I had to do it over again, I would have bought a lighter colored car.
 
petergottlieb said:
I confess, I had started to believe that 5+ miles a kWh was just marketing puffery, but it turns out it just had to warm up outside. No, I don’t see this often, but in case you are wondering, yes, a 2025 Air Pure really can hit its EPA rating now and then!
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Nice!
I've owned my 2025 AT since November of last year and I've logged about 6500 miles. My average over that time has been 4.3 mi/kWh.
I live in the mountains at 5,000 feet near San Diego. We get snow in winter and hot summers. Climbing/descending from sea level to 5kft on almost every trip.
I am very pleased with 4.3 mi/kWh. Far better than my old Model S.
 
The Pure RWD loaner I had I was able to consistently get 4.3 miles/kwh without even trying. When I did try at a steady 70mph over about 100 miles I was getting 4.6 miles/kwh. The Pure is astounding how efficient it is.
 
I never really thought about what a difference efficincy made until I went to Lucid from Tesla, I guess I didn't think about that kind of rating at all. I am really suprised at how much more efficient the Lucid is on my same commute.
 
MitchellK said:
Wish I could say I am getting 5+, but today on a 50 mile round trip between LOng Beach and Laguna Beach, mostly on freeways, I got 4.50m/kwh. First time this has happened where I got more than 4m/kwh for a stretch. I have 4,100 miles on my 2025 Air Pure in Stealth Black with graphite trim and interior. A very hot car in both senses of the word. During the Summer I got at best 3.5m/kwh pretty continously. I drive pretty conservatively, keeping my speed to between 70 and 75 mph. Love the car but really don''t know how people get 4+ regularly. I think my problem is the color of the car. It is a heat sink and the AC really doesn't cut it in this car's configuation.
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I have an AT Phathom Blue stealth with 20" tires. I live in OC and occasionally drive the same route as the one you reported. With A/C off and speeds under 75, I constantly get numbers north of 4 m/kwh there. If l really control my speed, the numbers get closer to 4.5. Tried but never get to 5 though.
 
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