R2 suspension sucks

[gaskiller]

I thought R1 was bad and it had air suspension. Rivian just cuts corners whether it be performance, range, voltage, packaging, efficiency, ride, handling- when compared to Lucid.

“ My biggest complaint is the suspension.
At one point, I stopped for coffee with two other adults in the car. The passenger in the back seat was so worried about spilling his drink over a bump that he waited until we stopped again to take a sip.”

Rivian needs R2 to work. I tested it to see if it's good enough.

Rivian's smaller SUV, the R2, is here. I tested it to see if it drives as well as it looks.

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[EVCar]

At one point, I stopped for coffee with two other adults in the car. The passenger in the back seat was so worried about spilling his drink over a bump that he waited until we stopped again to take a sip.”

Wait, hot liquid spilling!
Sounds like someone needs to report this to the NHTSA.

 

[BrianBigNFun]

Wait, hot liquid spilling!
Sounds like someone needs to report this to the NHTSA.

Let's not be hasty- are the cupolders the proper size?

 

[Quimby]

When did this become a Rivian Owners site? I've owned a Lucid & they have enough problem of their own. No need to criticize. And no I do not own an R2.

 

[BS8899]

When did this become a Rivian Owners site? I've owned a Lucid & they have enough problem of their own. No need to criticize. And no I do not own an R2.

Ummm, you mean, "we need to focus and execute?" What a novel idea?!

 

[gaskiller]

When did this become a Rivian Owners site? I've owned a Lucid & they have enough problem of their own. No need to criticize. And no I do not own an R2.

Pointing how much better Lucid engineering is, bar software. Rivian looks like it is trying to make the vehicle cheaper at the expense of ride and handling. Charging also worse with 400V while everyone coming out with 800v plus. It’s a backward looking vehicle, not the future.

 

[HC_79]

Pointing how much better Lucid engineering is, bar software. Rivian looks like it is trying to make the vehicle cheaper at the expense of ride and handling. Charging also worse with 400V while everyone coming out with 800v plus. It’s a backward looking vehicle, not the future.

Whilst many of us can praise Lucid for its engineering it's clearly the thing that most consumers really don't give a damn about. Yes, Rivian and Tesla are behind the times but boy, I bet Lucid wishes they had their sales. Just goes to show, you can have the best product on the market but doesn't guarantee you a sale. Where Tesla and Rivian succeed over Lucid is what owners SEE and that's the UI\UX and OTA's which both companies are nailing it compared to Lucid.

The engineering definitely benefits Lucid in the long run from a manufacturing \ production standpoint but it benefits Lucid, the consumer often doesn't care about that. I bet many consumers don't even know that EV's come in 400V or 800V.

 

[gaskiller]

Whilst many of us can praise Lucid for its engineering it's clearly the thing that most consumers really don't give a damn about. Yes, Rivian and Tesla are behind the times but boy, I bet Lucid wishes they had their sales. Just goes to show, you can have the best product on the market but doesn't guarantee you a sale. Where Tesla and Rivian succeed over Lucid is what owners SEE and that's the UI\UX and OTA's which both companies are nailing it compared to Lucid.

The engineering definitely benefits Lucid in the long run from a manufacturing \ production standpoint but it benefits Lucid, the consumer often doesn't care about that. I bet many consumers don't even know that EV's come in 400V or 800V.

Agree, and that is where the marketing flopped….the “post luxury” nonsense where people expect perfection. Why not talk about the technological innovations……

 

[Northpointe]

I bet many consumers don't even know that EV's come in 400V or 800V.

It's a lot like FSD. It only matters to the people it matters to.

the “post luxury” nonsense where people expect perfection.

You'll never win over customers by telling them that their expectations are nonsense. And technological innovations don't mean much if they don't work or the come at the expense of things that people take for granted (like functioning door locking).

 

[Need4Sleep]

Whilst many of us can praise Lucid for its engineering it's clearly the thing that most consumers really don't give a damn about. Yes, Rivian and Tesla are behind the times but boy, I bet Lucid wishes they had their sales. Just goes to show, you can have the best product on the market but doesn't guarantee you a sale. Where Tesla and Rivian succeed over Lucid is what owners SEE and that's the UI\UX and OTA's which both companies are nailing it compared to Lucid.

The engineering definitely benefits Lucid in the long run from a manufacturing \ production standpoint but it benefits Lucid, the consumer often doesn't care about that. I bet many consumers don't even know that EV's come in 400V or 800V.

Adding to this, I keep the perspective that I'd rather have strong physical and material foundations to build off of rather than half-baked physical foundations. At least software can improve and be corrected over time, but once a team is locked into physical engineering designs, it's hard to make significant changes because they're neck deep in supplier and tooling agreements, etc.

I agree with you in that Lucid does do well on the physical engineering side and that they need to improve their software side.

On the flip side, when you have poor foundations that struggle with the actual physical engineering and try to fix it with software, then you get the Boeing 737 Max.