OOS - Gravity Charging

[NoseyReporter]

 

[LuvLucy]

Thanks, I am taking Tuesday off of work to watch this.

2 1/2 hours?

 

[Elfin]

TLDW:

Impressive. 260mi EPA range in 15 minutes. 180mi in 15 minutes on a Supercharger.

 

[NoseyReporter]

TLDW:
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Impressive. 260mi EPA range in 15 minutes. 180mi in 15 minutes on a Supercharger.

Exactly what caught my eye too.

 

[Elfin]

Exactly what caught my eye too.

Only 6 minutes faster on 400kW. Real world even less than that since supercharger handshake time is much shorter and you'll rarely arrive at 0%.

 

[NoseyReporter]

Gunna be a road tripping animal. It takes me 10 mins just to use the bathroom and decide on snacks

 

[PetevB]

I did the math in the other thread, but leaving the house fully charged and charging to 300 miles you’d expect the Gravity to be essentially equal time off the highway as a gas car over 1000 miles when charging on the supercharger network. Anything below 1000 miles and the Gravity would actually spend less time off the highway because it starts full and the gas car probably doesn’t. So yes, road tripping monster. I pretty regularly do a 600 mile day trip, the Gravity will actually save me time vs a gas car where my previous Model 3 cost me close to an hour. So yea, big deal.

 

[037]

Some data comparing 400kw vs 220 on the Tesla chargers and how charging to 100% takes about the same exact time and charging past 80% is essentially a waste of time outside home charging

 

[hmp10]

Watching this video that was posted late yesterday, I'm now less concerned about road tripping in the Gravity. I might switch from the smallest to the mid-size wheels on our GT order.

(I'm also thinking about switching our Dream order from Aurora Green to Abyss Black after watching the earlier OOS video. What a stunner that black Gravity was. Lucid has oversold the green imho.)

 

[PetevB]

Watching this video that was posted late yesterday, I'm now less concerned about road tripping in the Gravity.

Keep in mind Tesla will soon be deploying full V4 superchargers, which will charge faster than any of the tests conducted so far (rated to 500 watts). So an easy, reliable 220-270 miles of range added in 15 minutes depending on wheels and SOC you arrive with, giving you a solid 3 more hours in the car before the next stop.

When I got my Model 3 LR in 2018 Tesla was on V2 superchargers, 150 kW. The jump to V3 and 250 kW in 2019 was big, and the coming jump to high voltage V4 will be similar for cars like the Gravity that can use the power.

 

[Elfin]

Keep in mind Tesla will soon be deploying full V4 superchargers, which will charge faster than any of the tests conducted so far (rated to 500 watts). So an easy, reliable 220-270 miles of range added in 15 minutes depending on wheels and SOC you arrive with, giving you a solid 3 more hours in the car before the next stop.

When I got my Model 3 LR in 2018 Tesla was on V2 superchargers, 150 kW. The jump to V3 and 250 kW in 2019 was big, and the coming jump to high voltage V4 will be similar for cars like the Gravity that can use the power.

I also have a 2018 Model 3. It's interesting that things haven't improved much, basically just a 10% increase in energy density. Though Tesla has gone backwards since then, the LG packs are much worse and the newer Panasonic are a little worse.

	cells	kWh	cell capacity	Peak Charge Power	C	Charge Power 50% SoC	C
Model 3 (original Panasonic cells)	4416	75	17Wh	250kW	4	150kW	2
Gravity	6600	123	18.6Wh	400kW	3.3	250kW	2

I wonder how fast Tesla is going to deploy V4 chargers, they don't make any cars that can use them except the Cybertruck. And the Cybertruck won't charge any faster now that they've started allowing 320kW charging on V3 superchargers (absurd current!)

 

[WeighingGravity]

Yeah I’m on the black train now too after seeing both in person at the Meatpacking studio.

 

[hmp10]

Yeah I’m on the black train now too after seeing both in person at the Meatpacking studio.

I just wish Lucid would allow you to change your own order on their website. I'm worried my sales advisor will soon stop taking my calls as I bounce between wheels and colors.

 

[hmp10]

Keep in mind Tesla will soon be deploying full V4 superchargers, which will charge faster than any of the tests conducted so far (rated to 500 watts). So an easy, reliable 220-270 miles of range added in 15 minutes depending on wheels and SOC you arrive with, giving you a solid 3 more hours in the car before the next stop.

When I got my Model 3 LR in 2018 Tesla was on V2 superchargers, 150 kW. The jump to V3 and 250 kW in 2019 was big, and the coming jump to high voltage V4 will be similar for cars like the Gravity that can use the power.

The charging speed is great, but it's not been my biggest concern. That has been the worry of arriving at a CCS station and finding lines of cars waiting for the only 1 or 2 working charge posts.

 

[illopp00]

Watching this video that was posted late yesterday, I'm now less concerned about road tripping in the Gravity. I might switch from the smallest to the mid-size wheels on our GT order.

(I'm also thinking about switching our Dream order from Aurora Green to Abyss Black after watching the earlier OOS video. What a stunner that black Gravity was. Lucid has oversold the green imho.)

This is why I can wait for the touring; it charges so well that it negates any downside of bigger wheels or smaller battery. And Tesla Supercharger access means I don't have to wait in line for charging while my pre-conditioning eats all the battery or runs out and cools back down....

 

[BobFM]

Yeah I’m on the black train now too after seeing both in person at the Meatpacking studio.

I'm debating the black or gray. Currently have an order for gray, but am weighing changing. Only issue is that in Texas, black vehicles get brutally hot in the summer, which is why my Air is white. Though white gets dirty awfully fast...

 

[Knucklehead]

Keep in mind Tesla will soon be deploying full V4 superchargers, which will charge faster than any of the tests conducted so far (rated to 500 watts).

500 Watts? I recommend you edit your post. LoL.

 

[LuvLucy]

Everyone in their right mind would read that as 500kW. That said I expect Jesus to return prior to V4 chargers (and Android Auto in Lucid). Tesla is fat, dumb and happy at < 480V. Why would they change that when everyone is begging to get into their network (and doing phenomenal engineering stuff like the Gravity Boost in the rear motor just the get 220kW).

I don't see it happening for the megaflop cybertruck, and I just generally don't see > 300 kW at Tesla chargers for any vehicle soon. It is the best charging network today, but suffers under its own bloat and soon will be overtaken. 1000V is the wave of the future (need only calculate the losses) and Tesla will miss it, and totally lose their advantage in charging IMO. Their dying legacy will be the better NACS connector (big whoop, for the granny prize).

I'm bought a NACS adapter for the occasional L2 destination charger at a hotel or otherwise, but I just don't see "supercharging" any more. For me as a prior Tesla owner - it was supersucky.

 

[PetevB]

Everyone in their right mind would read that as 500kW. That said I expect Jesus to return prior to V4 chargers (and Android Auto in Lucid). Tesla is fat, dumb and happy at < 480V. Why would they change that when everyone is begging to get into their network (and doing phenomenal engineering stuff like the Gravity Boost in the rear motor just the get 220kW).

I don't see it happening for the megaflop cybertruck, and I just generally don't see > 300 kW at Tesla chargers for any vehicle soon. It is the best charging network today, but suffers under its own bloat and soon will be overtaken. 1000V is the wave of the future (need only calculate the losses) and Tesla will miss it, and totally lose their advantage in charging IMO. Their dying legacy will be the better NACS connector (big whoop).

You can universally count on people to be greedy (some more than others). Superchargers are a real profit center for Tesla, and they charge other manufactures more than they do Tesla owners. Given this both moving cars through faster and keeping their chargers as the preferred option is in their self interest.

I don’t see anyone threatening Tesla’s network currently. Maybe I’m missing it? Their strategy of putting gobs of chargers along high traffic routes, all of which can be upgraded, seems far better than anyone else’s that I’ve seen.

I do very much wish we could edit posts outside on 10 minutes.

 

[WeighingGravity]

Is there a thread on Gravity charging on Level 2 chargers? I understand precious little about all this stuff, even as a current EV owner. I have a Tesla home charging station that is currently feeding my car 48A on ~240V (238 as we speak). In my S, that is currently equating to about 35-36 nominal miles of charge per hour. Understanding that the Gravity's nominal charging "miles" will differ somewhat from the Tesla, how should I expect the Gravity to charge on the same charging station? I'm assuming about the same (possibly faster since the Gravity should get more miles per kWh?) but want to make sure I'm not missing anything, or that I might need a different home charging solution?