Michelin pilot sport all season 4 brief review

[Demosthenes]

One of my OEM p zero’s bit the dust at around 15k miles so I decided to go for the PS4 All Season’s which is a switch I’ve been meaning to do for a while now but needed a busted tire to motivate me. Actually wanted to wait for the PS EV’s to be available in 21” size but no luck there yet.

So now I’m running on the PS4 AS tires on HRE p101sc rims at the exact fitment of the original OEM pirelli’s except I couldn’t find the right load rating so went with what was available which was 96 on the 245 fronts and 101 on the 265 rears. Wasn’t really sure if that was the right call but going by the load rating charts I still get over 6600 lbs of load which technically is enough for a 5000 lbs lucid? I lose hundreds of pounds of load rating but I gain back a smidge cuz my rims are lighter than the OEM rims. Dubious reasoning I know…whatever lol

I’ve driven about 3700 miles on the new tires and I was curious how they’d be in terms of range, road noise, and durability. I was worried that because they weren’t ‘EV specific’, they would suffer in comparison to the OEM pirelli’s. Turns out my fears were unwarranted. The range is basically the same or even slightly better. I don’t really notice any significant difference in road noise.

As for durability, I’m not sure because it’s still so early days but I haven’t seen any sidewall bubbles yet (plagued my pirelli’s). I did get a nail in one of them when I was still about 600 miles away from my destination one time and this resulted in a slow leak from that tire all the way back. I drove at normal speeds and pumped the tire with air whenever it creeped below 25 psi or so and completed the trip without any difficulty. After repair, seems to be holding up just fine.

Overall, pretty pleased with them so far although I’m still a bit leery about the load rating as they’re still very new. But driving in Canadian winters really did need a more proper tire than those slick pirelli’s!

 

[Steveinarizona]

Hang in there. Michelin is already making some 4S tires with an HL load rating. It is only a matter of time, I suspect, before it comes out with HL load rated tires that will fit the Lucid.

 

[lsbuffs]

And Pilot Sport S 5 coming "soon", to OEMs first, including Lucid

 

[gavram]

I've had 20" PS4 all seasons on since taking delivery & they've done great in many snow storms, potholes, etc.

 

[Daniel2022AT]

I am not satisfied with the impact harshness with the Pirelli 19 inchers. It is oddly noticeable going over longitudinal strips in concrete pavement. This is exacerbated by the unusually high tire pressure. Driving on newer asphalt and the ride is silky smooth.

Over time I’m sure there will be expanded aftermarket options for lighter weight aero wheels and more choices for high load tires with better ride characteristics.

 

[Wait4Perfection]

And Pilot Sport S 5 coming "soon", to OEMs first, including Lucid

Do you think this will be a better performance tire for our lucids than the Pilot Sport EV they've made?

 

[Bobby]

Do you think this will be a better performance tire for our lucids than the Pilot Sport EV they've made?

PS EV is not available for 21s.

 

[scal_air]

One of my OEM p zero’s bit the dust at around 15k miles so I decided to go for the PS4 All Season’s which is a switch I’ve been meaning to do for a while now but needed a busted tire to motivate me. Actually wanted to wait for the PS EV’s to be available in 21” size but no luck there yet.

So now I’m running on the PS4 AS tires on HRE p101sc rims at the exact fitment of the original OEM pirelli’s except I couldn’t find the right load rating so went with what was available which was 96 on the 245 fronts and 101 on the 265 rears. Wasn’t really sure if that was the right call but going by the load rating charts I still get over 6600 lbs of load which technically is enough for a 5000 lbs lucid? I lose hundreds of pounds of load rating but I gain back a smidge cuz my rims are lighter than the OEM rims. Dubious reasoning I know…whatever lol

I’ve driven about 3700 miles on the new tires and I was curious how they’d be in terms of range, road noise, and durability. I was worried that because they weren’t ‘EV specific’, they would suffer in comparison to the OEM pirelli’s. Turns out my fears were unwarranted. The range is basically the same or even slightly better. I don’t really notice any significant difference in road noise.

As for durability, I’m not sure because it’s still so early days but I haven’t seen any sidewall bubbles yet (plagued my pirelli’s). I did get a nail in one of them when I was still about 600 miles away from my destination one time and this resulted in a slow leak from that tire all the way back. I drove at normal speeds and pumped the tire with air whenever it creeped below 25 psi or so and completed the trip without any difficulty. After repair, seems to be holding up just fine.

Overall, pretty pleased with them so far although I’m still a bit leery about the load rating as they’re still very new. But driving in Canadian winters really did need a more proper tire than those slick pirelli’s!

It’s been about a year… how about an update on how your Michelin PS4s are working out?

 

[Navstar57]

One of my OEM p zero’s bit the dust at around 15k miles so I decided to go for the PS4 All Season’s which is a switch I’ve been meaning to do for a while now but needed a busted tire to motivate me. Actually wanted to wait for the PS EV’s to be available in 21” size but no luck there yet.

So now I’m running on the PS4 AS tires on HRE p101sc rims at the exact fitment of the original OEM pirelli’s except I couldn’t find the right load rating so went with what was available which was 96 on the 245 fronts and 101 on the 265 rears. Wasn’t really sure if that was the right call but going by the load rating charts I still get over 6600 lbs of load which technically is enough for a 5000 lbs lucid? I lose hundreds of pounds of load rating but I gain back a smidge cuz my rims are lighter than the OEM rims. Dubious reasoning I know…whatever lol

I’ve driven about 3700 miles on the new tires and I was curious how they’d be in terms of range, road noise, and durability. I was worried that because they weren’t ‘EV specific’, they would suffer in comparison to the OEM pirelli’s. Turns out my fears were unwarranted. The range is basically the same or even slightly better. I don’t really notice any significant difference in road noise.

As for durability, I’m not sure because it’s still so early days but I haven’t seen any sidewall bubbles yet (plagued my pirelli’s). I did get a nail in one of them when I was still about 600 miles away from my destination one time and this resulted in a slow leak from that tire all the way back. I drove at normal speeds and pumped the tire with air whenever it creeped below 25 psi or so and completed the trip without any difficulty. After repair, seems to be holding up just fine.

Overall, pretty pleased with them so far although I’m still a bit leery about the load rating as they’re still very new. But driving in Canadian winters really did need a more proper tire than those slick pirelli’s!

Agree, I'd like to see a follow up review... I'd just a much like to see how the HRE's look on your car?! I've considered them as well.

 

[scal_air]

@Demosthenes How about a quick thumbs up or down regarding the Pilot Sport 4s? Tires for our Lucid Airs have been in short supply lately...

 

[Demosthenes]

The tires have been very durable, no problems that I’ve experienced. The skinny spoke HRE’s do get bent maybe a bit more easily than I would have hoped I suppose. I’m over 40k miles now.

 

[AirQuality]

I've had 20" PS4 all seasons on since taking delivery & they've done great in many snow storms, potholes, etc.

@gavram I’m thinking of replacing my 20” PS EVs with PS All Season 4s as well ahead of ski trips to the mountains here in the SF Bay Area.

What has your experience been with the PS All-Season 4s with regards to snow traction, road noise, durability, and efficiency? How do they compare to the OE PS EVs?

 

[RKPhilly]

One of my OEM p zero’s bit the dust at around 15k miles so I decided to go for the PS4 All Season’s which is a switch I’ve been meaning to do for a while now but needed a busted tire to motivate me. Actually wanted to wait for the PS EV’s to be available in 21” size but no luck there yet.

So now I’m running on the PS4 AS tires on HRE p101sc rims at the exact fitment of the original OEM pirelli’s except I couldn’t find the right load rating so went with what was available which was 96 on the 245 fronts and 101 on the 265 rears. Wasn’t really sure if that was the right call but going by the load rating charts I still get over 6600 lbs of load which technically is enough for a 5000 lbs lucid? I lose hundreds of pounds of load rating but I gain back a smidge cuz my rims are lighter than the OEM rims. Dubious reasoning I know…whatever lol

I’ve driven about 3700 miles on the new tires and I was curious how they’d be in terms of range, road noise, and durability. I was worried that because they weren’t ‘EV specific’, they would suffer in comparison to the OEM pirelli’s. Turns out my fears were unwarranted. The range is basically the same or even slightly better. I don’t really notice any significant difference in road noise.

As for durability, I’m not sure because it’s still so early days but I haven’t seen any sidewall bubbles yet (plagued my pirelli’s). I did get a nail in one of them when I was still about 600 miles away from my destination one time and this resulted in a slow leak from that tire all the way back. I drove at normal speeds and pumped the tire with air whenever it creeped below 25 psi or so and completed the trip without any difficulty. After repair, seems to be holding up just fine.

Overall, pretty pleased with them so far although I’m still a bit leery about the load rating as they’re still very new. But driving in Canadian winters really did need a more proper tire than those slick pirelli’s!

Thanks for sharing this. I pickup my Air GT Monday and already ordered a set of those Michelins to swap out with the Pirelli summer tires. Lucid service won’t bless it because of the weight ratings but my only other option was another set of smaller rims. Didn’t want to sacrifice the 21’s.

Keep us posted on how they handle over time. I’m hoping to only keep mine on for 2-3 months a year.

 

[gavram]

@gavram I’m thinking of replacing my 20” PS EVs with PS All Season 4s as well ahead of ski trips to the mountains here in the SF Bay Area.

What has your experience been with the PS All-Season 4s with regards to snow traction, road noise, durability, and efficiency? How do they compare to the OE PS EVs?

I've been pleased with them. Over the last 2 years I've swapped the OEM summer tires back on each spring, as I figured I might as well use them, and this has given me additional opportunities to directly compare them to the All Seasons.

I continue to not be able to tell a difference in noise between the two tires, but I admittedly have not actually monitored effeciency impact. If the All Seasons lessen the efficiency, it must be fairly minor as I haven't noticed a major change in kwh when in similar weather conditions. I've only got around 9k miles on the All Seasons and they've held up well with ample tread remaining.

For snow traction, I've had the Lucid in many snow storms here in Cleveland Ohio and it's done remarkably well. We get 6+ inches in a single storm multiple times a season and I've never had to shy away from going out due to weather. The weight seems to aid traction, and the Lucid AWD traction system is top notch, although I tend to be more cautious on hard braking, particularly on a decline, due to anticipating that more weight will take longer to come to a stop.

I haven't yet felt the need to move to snow tires and I'm glad as they typically don't wear as well or perform that great in conditions outside of snow.

 

[AirQuality]

Great overview, thanks @gavram. This is exactly what I was looking for, especially the “side by side” with the OE tires. Gives me a lot more confidence in the all seasons. Much appreciated!