The iX3 is a compact SUV. It's 10 inches shorter in length than the Gravity and 4 inches narrower (based on my quick Internet search), with significantly less storage space. The iX is the more appropriate competition currently.
I don’t see massaging seats on the Touring. It’s the only feature that appears to be unavailable.
Massage seats are in the description of the touring when you select the luxury seating option, just like the GT.
In the Car and Driver article they said it basically was able to get 300 mixed driving due to being more efficient in the City, and did 267 at 75mph. So hard to say exactly how the configuration will changes things. Either way it charges faster than all the competition.
There is 0 chance an iX3 will be under 100K once out the door.
I think the issue is less so wanting more power and more so of wanting more range. The touring with 20/21s is 100+ less miles than the GT. That is a huge difference. The going faster is nice, but the more range equals longer distance, less charging stops and even quicker charging times which makes all of the difference in an EV. My wife doesn't need the power, so I was going to sell her on the touring, but for the price delta, I'd rather us swing up to the GT for all the benefits of the added range since this will be our roadtrip vehicle. My feelings is "if your budget tops out at the Touring, then do it. If you can swing it, the GT makes more sense."
Hmm - are you in the US? As at least in the US, the iX3 will be starting around $60k. A quick google search will show plenty of articles saying that including BMW. Maybe you were joking though.
I doubt it once it's tariffed and all the BMW options are added. Just like Lucid advertised you can get a Gravity under 80K it's the base model Touring with no options, not the one with the max charging and range. Just like the base Cayenne is starts at $111K. You would need the M50 Ix3 to get even close to the Touring's performance. The current M50 is already 90K.Hmm - are you in the US? As at least in the US, the iX3 will be starting around $60k. A quick google search will show plenty of articles saying that including BMW. Maybe you were joking though.
I would bet it most definitely will. Who knows what influence any tarriffs will have then too. There is absolutely no way it will cost more than the current IX, which is a bigger car. Base Cayenne is a total rip off and will not sell well, just like the current Macan does not sell well in the US. Have not seen on Macan EV in my area yet, but also don’t seem many if hardly any Lucids. Don’t care about the M50, as just want an EV that gets max real range and provides good comfort/options. Hope BMW does start it at $60k as will put more pressure on price for other EV mfg’s. Also - I don’t consider it a competitor of the Gravity, the IX or X5 would be that.
They’ll have a ton in December or by end of December when they realize they can’t sell the Touring or the GT. They’re not offering 1.99% on Touring yet, but they’ll have to. In addition to other incentives.
Never going to happen. Battery prices can’t come down enough and tax incentives closing some of the gap are gone for at least 3.5 years. Unless we suddenly let Chinese EVs come to the US and try to get real competition- but Chinese EVs have massive subsidies from their government, so not really level playing ground. EV movement already is slowing.
Thanks for pointing that out. I couldn’t find it.
For $80k it’s going to largely have the same driving dynamics and features. It’s a solid deal compared to an $80k Rivian (if that even exists) or a $100k X.
So will the R2.
This I would agree with, and it's much more of a Mid-size competitor. I think it will be a great option, the I4 is already doing well in the US. I absolutely think there is room for EV trims that are max range/lux/comfort packs rather than the big wheel power cars.
My sense is Earth will be a year late to the party and will find it really tough to compete with R2 and offerings from BMW, Mercedes, Audi. Time will tell.
The R1S is probably its closest comparison, as the standard starts around $76k but the one with similar range starts at $84k, but granted, the 7 seats are included. I wouldn't say the Gravity is a better "deal" comparatively, but it offers a more well rounded package for most people with much faster charging speeds and luxury features that are downright missing in a Rivian. Several comparisons have been made between the two and it seems like they are very much defining this premium 3 row EV segment. All that to say, the Touring is competitive with its range and power for this segment, just seems a big stepdown from the GT (keyword "seems", its still a lot cheaper and on its own, its a legit offering). I have a feeling that it will sell well. As for the Model X, that vehicle is on another planet. I don't know who would drop $100k for one with less range, space and power (unless going plaid) than its competitors.
