Have we reached the endgame? BYD 1000KW - 10C charging

[illopp00]

https://insideevs.com/news/753913/byd-ev-one-megawatt-charging/

In their mainstream cars, this company will be the largest automaker in the world in the near future...

 

[Pragmatic]

And at that will they be allowed to sell in the US?

 

[marsarbu]

If you can't beat them ... ban them. The recipe of long term success.

 

[DeaneG]

If you can't beat them ... ban them. The recipe of long term success.

We don't need no stinking science.

 

[marsarbu]

We don't need no stinking science.

Me strong. Me got big stick. Not need science.

 

[illopp00]

To be clear, I don't think the Chinese automakers are banned. They are just tariffed to the point that it's not a great feasible investment at this point. And yes, their in-car tech would be watered down because they would have to make it clear and transparent where the data is going.

That being said, BYD could probably start just building charging stations first, they already have their EV buses in LA in a facility.

 

[Pragmatic]

Glad we avoided buying their buses when we purchased 3 years ago. Hopefully they've improved.

 

[HC_79]

I don't think the US power grid can even handle multiples of 1000kW chargers \ cars charging all at once. You just need to see how all the 350kW chargers are being set up with power sharing. Even the V4 chargers are taking a similar approach.

 

[illopp00]

I think even the China grid can't, it's quite a whole system with BESS on site and big transformers that allow to trickle charge the big batteries with solar and then blast power out to the car. If you can full charge in 5 min the duty cycle is going to be extremely intermittent.

 

[Pragmatic]

No real difference to the grid between a 20 stall 250kw dispenser station handling 40 cars an hour and a 6 stall 1000kw dispenser station handling 36 cars per hour.

 

[illopp00]

Glad we avoided buying their buses when we purchased 3 years ago. Hopefully they've improved.

Yes this charging tech is actually really needed for EV buses. My understanding is they don't really work in the Winter, it takes too much energy to heat the cabin vs moving the bus.

 

[Pragmatic]

Hotel loads are tremendous. We looked at heated passenger seats (too much liability), heated floor (issues with our floor supplier), heated passenger grips (these are in the planning stages and maybe available in the future) and heated drivers seat (which we got but was opposed by operations).

 

[Cosmo Cruz]

Nice post @illopp00.



How Tesla Blew it's lead: (EV Revolution)

"... Until 2019, Saudi Arabia’s sovereign wealth fund, the Public Investment Fund, held more than 8.2 million shares in Tesla. It sold most of the shares in 2019, and has since backed American EV maker Lucid Motors as well as Ceer, an automobile manufacturer formed under a joint venture between the sovereign fund and China’s Foxconn. Last year, Lucid officially opened the first car-manufacturing facility in Saudi Arabia."

(emphasis mine)