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GT 7 Seater 22/23 vs T 5 Seater 20/21s - The Touring has stolen my heart

Would be nice if Lucid made the 3rd row completely removable to get lighter weight when you dont need it. Wonder if the bracket is removable
 
hwy17er said:
I experienced the same thing but the other way around: I have a GGT with the 20/21's (wanted better tire options for severe snow rated tires come winter for ski trips, better range, and less chance of pot hole blow outs). But now that my vehicle is in the service center I'm driving a loaner GGT equipped with the 22/23's and ya, even though it's summer, those fancy looking rubber band tires do not have the same ride quality as my 20/21's. My GGT seems lighter on its feet and more nimble.
It's almost counter intuitive but the Hankook's seem to handle better on the curvy mountain roads around the Santa Cruz Mountains than these Pzero's
I feel I made the right choice on wheels & tires thus far and will probably go with a 3PMSF A/S like Cross Climate II or Vredestein Quatrac Pro+ this winter to drive from sea level up to Tahoe and back for ski season.
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SC has some great roads. It was better in 20 years ago, when being a car enthusiasts wasn't as popular. I feel covid really ruined everything for backroad enthusiasts.
 
Hammerthyme said:
I've wondered this for years. In the 90's I used to get rotation and alignment done somewhat regularly. When I later got lazy(er), I didn't really notice any difference in tire wear or tread life. Seems like this might be another thing we still take as common knowledge based on how cars used to be.
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Inspecting tires is always a must. It tells you everything about how the car is performing.

Fun fact:
Put a car on any alignment rack, take before readings, align the car, take after readings, then take the car off the rack and put it back on and take new readings. They will be different. It will never be the same because the car will always settle slightly differently every time.
 
NoseyReporter said:
the fact that the Touring is much lighter; no 2nd motor
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They both have 2 motors, but the Touring is 500 lbs lighter. That makes a big difference in braking and handling. Not in acceleration of course, because the GT has a better power-to-weight ratio.
 
mfdutra said:
They both have 2 motors, but the Touring is 500 lbs lighter. That makes a big difference in braking and handling. Not in acceleration of course, because the GT has a better power-to-weight ratio.
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I stand corrected!! Thanks.
 
NoseyReporter said:
SC has some great roads. It was better in 20 years ago, when being a car enthusiasts wasn't as popular. I feel covid really ruined everything for backroad enthusiasts.
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20yrs ago I had a 5sp stick 4.0L straight six OG Jeep Cherokee and just upgraded to high end shocks and bought really good A/T tires. There wasn't a road in NorCal, SoCal, Baja, or B.C.S. that that car wouldn't handle...respiratory viruses be damned!!
 
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NoseyReporter said:
I can't wait to see what they do with the Cosmos. I hope that they don't let the chase for profitability hurt what the Cosmo can be given the pedigree of the Air and the Gravity.

I genuinely made the wrong choice with the GT 7 seater 22/23, however at the time I need the car immediately. Hopefully the when it comes time to return the Gravity, I can test drive all the different trims of the Cosmos. Then decide if I want to go Cosmos or Gravity T.
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Dude! The obvious choice is a Cosmos Sapphire! :p
 
VLumina said:
This is good info for new buyers. I picked the smallest wheels for the longest range and winter driving, and now it sounds like they're responsible for the excellent ride quality as well. The funny thing is, people keep commenting on how huge these wheels look 😀
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Somehow, the experiences of one's youth always feel like they were just yesterday. My first car that was really mine had 165HR13 tires (1980 Mazda 626). I drove the shit out of that thing, and had a grand time. The Gravity 20/21 setup feels enormous to me, and the 22/23 setup looks like something out of a Japanese comic to my eyes.
 
TahoeMichael said:
Somehow, the experiences of one's youth always feel like they were just yesterday. My first car that was really mine had 165HR13 tires (1980 Mazda 626). I drove the shit out of that thing, and had a grand time. The Gravity 20/21 setup feels enormous to me, and the 22/23 setup looks like something out of a Japanese comic to my eyes.
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Oh the days when tires cost, $55 bucks because they were tiny. Good luck finding those size tires these days. When I had to buy a new set for my E30 a few years ago, I had 3 choices of tires.
 
NoseyReporter said:
This is just a quick post.

I've had the luxury or unfortunate opportunity to drive a few loaner Gravities; depends on how you look at it.

I've always felt the ride quality on my GT 7 Seater with 22/23 wheels to be rough. I've always suspect this was the cost of having the largest wheel options available. Less sidewall. Recently my GT when into service, and I was given another GT but with the 21/22 wheel combo. There was a subtle but noticeable difference in ride quality, better. Which made me wonder what the smallest wheel combo would feel like .

Yesterday I received another loaner. This time, it was significantly different. A touring, minimal options, with the 20/21 combo. And dare I say this is the most fun Gravity I've driven. I'm not sure if its the 20/21 wheel combo, or the fact that the Touring is much lighter; no 2nd motor, no 3rd row, more "cost effective" material that is probably lighter. The ride quality is the best I've experience so far, and the handling is so much fun. The steering wheel is lighter, the brakes respond better, and the car begs to be thrown around. Its hard to believe this is the same exact chassis, because the car feels so much more lively, light on its toes, and playful.

I bought the Gravity because I wanted a car that could haul everything but still be sporty and fun. I loved the way the Gravity looked on the 22/23 wheels. I love my GT, it a rocket, and gets around corners like a champ, but after driving this Touring with the 20/21 combo, I think I'm having buyers regret. The touring is just that playful, its just that fun. Frankly, I can live with the more "spartan" interior. As for the power, well yeah I'd probably miss the power of the GT but at the end of the day, I think this Touring has stolen my heart.

When my lease on the GT is up, I'll seriously consider getting into the Touring with this wheel combo. I do want to try a GT on the 20/21s too, but I suspect the relatively lightweight nature is what makes the Touring so playful. Oh and of course throw in the Cosmos too....
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Sorry I'm a bit late on this thread, but I believe both the touring and the grand touring have 2 motors for AWD?
 
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