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OP here, let me address some of the responses:
1) These construction "zones" were often just a few cars lengths long. Maybe they were doing median or wall repair. Most of the time the lines were still here.
2) Sometimes it wasn't a construction zone, just faint or missing lines.
3) I ended up keeping my hands on the wheel the whole time so I could take-over instantly as required by the car. In this mode, it was my passengers that were annoyed by all the chiming, thinking that I, the driver, was doing something wrong.
4) Comparing the system to a toddler misses that Lucid isn't charging for a toddler-capable version ($6,750).
5) The pre-mapping issue is "inside baseball." What Lucid is apparently doing is pre-figuring out how the car should drive each section of roadway, and then revert to driver if any kind of deviation from "normal" is detected (perhaps cones, perhaps anything orange on the shoulders, etc.). But, what it should do is look to see if it can still identify a clear, clean lane in which to drive, and then do so. Pre-mapping also should compensate for lane lines being faint or even missing for a short spell. It know the road from the pre-map, and the faint/missing lines were, in the vast majority of cases, there during the pre-mapping, so the map should have the path for the car to follow. But it doesn't. It's not smart enough to look ahead 75 feet to see the lane lines continuing and decide to drive between that span. The bottom line is that if Lucid will always require pre-mapping, but yet provide no advantage to that pre-mapping, what's the point? Tesla FSD drives these roads better without pre-mapping and without LiDAR.
6) Saying we're a decade away from autonomous cars misses what Waymo is doing today, and what Tesla is starting to do today. And even if so, how does Lucid get away with charging almost $7k for this?
7) I'm not asking for complicated urban environment driving, that has pedestrians, bicycles, stop lights, round-abouts, etc. This is supposed to be the easy drive me on the highway between entrance and exit (non-inclusive). If it can't handle these normal highways (280, 680, 80) without annoying passengers and requiring drivers to be hands-on at all times, then it's not that useful, not worth the money, and other car companies will be more successful.
1) These construction "zones" were often just a few cars lengths long. Maybe they were doing median or wall repair. Most of the time the lines were still here.
2) Sometimes it wasn't a construction zone, just faint or missing lines.
3) I ended up keeping my hands on the wheel the whole time so I could take-over instantly as required by the car. In this mode, it was my passengers that were annoyed by all the chiming, thinking that I, the driver, was doing something wrong.
4) Comparing the system to a toddler misses that Lucid isn't charging for a toddler-capable version ($6,750).
5) The pre-mapping issue is "inside baseball." What Lucid is apparently doing is pre-figuring out how the car should drive each section of roadway, and then revert to driver if any kind of deviation from "normal" is detected (perhaps cones, perhaps anything orange on the shoulders, etc.). But, what it should do is look to see if it can still identify a clear, clean lane in which to drive, and then do so. Pre-mapping also should compensate for lane lines being faint or even missing for a short spell. It know the road from the pre-map, and the faint/missing lines were, in the vast majority of cases, there during the pre-mapping, so the map should have the path for the car to follow. But it doesn't. It's not smart enough to look ahead 75 feet to see the lane lines continuing and decide to drive between that span. The bottom line is that if Lucid will always require pre-mapping, but yet provide no advantage to that pre-mapping, what's the point? Tesla FSD drives these roads better without pre-mapping and without LiDAR.
6) Saying we're a decade away from autonomous cars misses what Waymo is doing today, and what Tesla is starting to do today. And even if so, how does Lucid get away with charging almost $7k for this?
7) I'm not asking for complicated urban environment driving, that has pedestrians, bicycles, stop lights, round-abouts, etc. This is supposed to be the easy drive me on the highway between entrance and exit (non-inclusive). If it can't handle these normal highways (280, 680, 80) without annoying passengers and requiring drivers to be hands-on at all times, then it's not that useful, not worth the money, and other car companies will be more successful.
