Charging stations discussion

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We went on our first long trip from Miami to Bradenton fl. I have a Touring with 21 “ tires. First the max charge only went to 357 miles. The trip was only 223 miles upon arrival I only had 55 minutes left. Trying to find a charging station was a nightmare. No EA chargers in the area. Charge point showed a lot in the area. Went to 3 different locations their app said they were there. NOT one had chargers. Finally found one that was working with 28 miles left. Started charging but it took 15 hours 35 minutes to charge. Never going to try this again. Lucid need to push EA & others to at least update their app showing actual active locations. 😝
 
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Download an app called PlugShare. It will show you every charger and its exact speed and capacity. It’ll also help you plan stops ahead of time along your route. Takes all of 5-10 minutes.

What I usually do is have the chargers I want planned out, and then at least one or two backup chargers, in case there is a problem at the ones I plan on using.

When it comes to road trips, a little bit of advanced planning goes a long way. If you “wing it” you will screw yourself royally.
 
The EA app updates charger status in near real time as well. If you don’t mind stopping along the way, there is an EA location just east of Naples and one in Port Charlotte that both appear to be working at this point in time.
 
I have also signed up for EVGo as a backup to EA. Good to have ready-to-use options in case there are no EA locations nearby or if they are full/inoperative. I have had very good luck with EVGo. Usage is simple if you create an account ahead of time and initiate the charging session through the app. I see there are some EVGo locations in Bradenton. Maybe try it next time!
 
I have EA, EVgo, ChargePoint and Blink accounts anmong others and use the PlugShare App which I highly recommend. Advance planning of charging stations is important. Of course I did this for my ICE with GasBuddy so that I had the cheapest fuel options. Advance planning with options makes the trip much better with less stress. I did a cross country and back with the Lucid utilizing only EA stations without anxiety. I mapped out every EA station along the route on a printed spreadsheet with miles from on to the next, (i did the same thing with gas stations for my ICE on previous trips, so this was no different). While some stations were less than desirable on charging speeds, I was able to move to the next one if I had an issue since I planned to charge at a station earlier than necessary allowing me enough range to get to the next. I also assume a lower range than the EPA estimates and used my historical numbers for planning purposes. If you plan the stress levels are minimal.
 
I have been using the philosophy to stop more often, every 2.5-3 hours (need to stretch and pee) and do a quick partial recharge each stop. For me it saves time overall.
 
I would like reactivate this thread.. I have owned the car now for a month... I have charged at ea, and charge point suoer fast dc 350 stations.. I have never seen my car or any other car at anythiover mid to high 100s... Can you really get a date of 250-350?
 
I would like reactivate this thread.. I have owned the car now for a month... I have charged at ea, and charge point suoer fast dc 350 stations.. I have never seen my car or any other car at anythiover mid to high 100s... Can you really get a date of 250-350?
you will never get any charge rates over 250 or so and while I have seen 225+ it doesn't last long as the BMS in the car tapers the speed at lower levels of SOC. the charging speeds are determined by the SOC and battery conditions at the start of the session.
 
I would like reactivate this thread.. I have owned the car now for a month... I have charged at ea, and charge point suoer fast dc 350 stations.. I have never seen my car or any other car at anythiover mid to high 100s... Can you really get a date of 250-350?
Depending on your model (battery size) charge rates of
over 150 kW are often seen on the EA 150 chargers
and over 300 kW are often seen on the new EA 350 chargers when the Lucid is per-conditioned and at a low state-of-charge (in the teens or lower).

The charging curves are posted on this site


For best fast DC charging rates pre-condition the battery.

here's a recent post with charging data. the curve fits other data collected by users: thanks to

Jackie Daytona:​

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Hello everyone, following up from my post yesterday, I have finished my road trip and have some preliminary data for the 2024 GT charging curve to share:


At a 350kw EA charger, with battery preconditioning:

2024 Lucid Air GT charging curve:

Starting at 12%, 57 miles remaining
Ramped up to 338kw the first minute.

@ 2 minutes in, 308kw and 20% SOT (+45 miles added)

@ 5 minutes in, 255kw and 31% SOT (+94 miles added)

@ 10 minutes in, 184kw and 45% SOT (+162 miles added)

@ 12 minutes in, 172kw and 49% SOT (+185 miles added)

@ 15 minutes in, 119kw and 55% SOT (+212 miles added)

@ 20 minutes in, 106kw and 62% SOT (+245 miles added)

@ 25 minutes in, 105kw and 69% SOT (+279 miles added)

@ 28 minutes in, it climbed 108kw and 73% SOT (+301 miles added)

@ 30 minutes in, 110kw and 76% SOT (+313 miles added)

Stopped charging.

I added 84kw during the charge.
 
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I have a Touring and also have never seen any speeds close to 350KW. I usually charge when I'm in the 20-30% range. The speeds I'm seeing are in the low 100's. I charge in AZ so don't know if EA is intentionally suppressing the speed due to the high temperatures. Is there something I should be doing?
 
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I have a touring and this was an actual charging curve. By 20% you will be below 200kw.
 
That’s a big drop at 55%. I don’t recall this with my pure. I’ve had one session somehow holding 78kw at 80%.
 
That’s a big drop at 55%. I don’t recall this with my pure. I’ve had one session somehow holding 78kw at 80%.
Yes, it depends on the temperature outside and the battery temperature. Sometimes, the charge drops a bit and then increases later. I have seen flatter curves that stay at 80kw up to 80%.
 
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