Any chance Lucid will prioritize Gravity Touring?

[sirizha]

Now that the BBB had passed and is being signed by Trump today (July 4, 2025), there are fewer than 90 days left before the $7,500 federal tax credit on EVs is discontinued on October 1, 2025.

This would be a great time for Lucid to prioritize the Touring trim that should come right under $80,000 to qualify for the federal tax credit. It would make sense for Lucid to harvest the remaining 90 days worth of tax credit to sell more units and then go back to offering the more expensive trims once there is no more tax credit.

Thoughts?

 

[sirizha]

Another thought I’ve just had is that once the federal tax credit expires on October 1, 2025, there will not be any barrier to raising the price of the Touring above $80,000, which I fully expect Lucid will do. So, perhaps, they don’t need to switch to Touring while they are production contraintes because they can price the Gravity Touring trim at probably $84,990 after the federal tax credit goes away.

 

[Pragmatic]

I don't think they can pivot that fast.

 

[Goodbye]

A little off topic, but I was wondering why everyone (or anyone) gets a charger installed at home versus a simple 14-50 receptacle. Obviously, you can charge faster with a charger, but if you're home at least 8 hours, in 99% of cases, you can fully charge anyway (with a 14-50 receptacle).

I've been an EV owner since 2016. The day I came home with my first EV, I needed a quick way to charge, to buy me some time to get a charger. I spent $75 at Lowe's and had a 240v receptacle installed within an hour. 9 years later, I'm still using that "get me by" receptacle. I've simply never seen a need to charge any faster.

So I was just curious what are people's use cases are that require charging so quickly at home?

 

[iThinkEV]

Most wall chargers have some kind of intelligence for setting up scheduled charging, or amperage regulation, connect to WiFi and you get status or SOC, etc.. Most of them you can also do from you car app. From a purely pouring voltage out to the car, you're right. no difference really. When I couldn't get my Tesla Gen2 wallcharger working, I was using the mobile EVSE and it was fine. Getting 11kW out of it. Now that I got the Gen2 to work, I get 13kW, ha.

I'm just guessing it's a matter of convenience as well, you don't have to unplug mobile EVSE if you have to take a trip and you only have 1 EVSE. But I have collected multiple EVSEs over the year from Tesla. and I've never use any, since I got the wall charger from day one. Not all mobile EVSEs are created equal either. My Porsche one, recall after recall, has never been used.

-iThinkEV-

 

[bryway]

I don't think they can pivot that fast.

I’ll bet the units they deliver to UBER for robo-taxi service will be Touring models, and per the press release, they’re going to start delivering cars to UBER this year. So maybe that lights a fire under Touring production.

 

[jrreno]

A little off topic, but I was wondering why everyone (or anyone) gets a charger installed at home versus a simple 14-50 receptacle. Obviously, you can charge faster with a charger, but if you're home at least 8 hours, in 99% of cases, you can fully charge anyway (with a 14-50 receptacle).

I've been an EV owner since 2016. The day I came home with my first EV, I needed a quick way to charge, to buy me some time to get a charger. I spent $75 at Lowe's and had a 240v receptacle installed within an hour. 9 years later, I'm still using that "get me by" receptacle. I've simply never seen a need to charge any faster.

So I was just curious what are people's use cases are that require charging so quickly at home?

I’ve been driving two different Tesla Model S since 2014 ( one from 14-18 and one from 18 to present) I’ve always charged at home with the Tesla mobile charger which gave me 21 mph at 32 amps. Always met our needs. I will mention that with a cheap 14-50 receptacle there was an over heat issue with the result that MS raised a fault and reduced the current. I fixed that with a better quality Hubbel 14-50 with copper contacts.