2.8.0 Feedback Only!

The Air's face camera is a separate device mounted below the bottom of the driver's display, and is easily blocked by the steering column with a typical steering wheel position.
Experienced the same problem last night. I then lowered the steering wheel a bit and voile! It worked. thx
 
I have just returned from a 1,000+ mile round trip - San Francisco Bay Area to San Diego and back, mostly on Hwy 5 and hands-free worked spectacularly well. At the beginning I had to make a small adjustment to the seating and steering well because it kept telling me to pay attention. One thing that my wife and I noticed noted was that the car kept giving us the "pay attention" message when we were having a conversation and the driver, either she or I, moved the head for a few seconds to face the passenger. Also, the car was very good to quickly slow down when some other car cut in front just a few feet away.
 
I have just returned from a 1,000+ mile round trip - San Francisco Bay Area to San Diego and back, mostly on Hwy 5 and hands-free worked spectacularly well. At the beginning I had to make a small adjustment to the seating and steering well because it kept telling me to pay attention. One thing that my wife and I noticed noted was that the car kept giving us the "pay attention" message when we were having a conversation and the driver, either she or I, moved the head for a few seconds to face the passenger. Also, the car was very good to quickly slow down when some other car cut in front just a few feet away.
My Air was miffed at me when I was using HFDA while admiring the interior lighting. It is actually very cool, but I usually never see it because I'm looking at the road. Well HFDA doesn't want me admiring the lighting while it is driving lol.
 
I’ve tried out the HFDA for only a few miles on US 101 in Silicon Valley, but it seems to far to recognize that I’m looking at the road even while wearing mirrored sunglasses, and I appreciate the lack of nagging to “keep hands on the wheel”.

Frankly, I don’t know that I’d take my hands off the wheel anyway. It’s not like one can do something like look at a phone or something since the system will chide you for not looking at the road. The biggest benefit to me-again-is the lack of nagging about keeping hands on the wheel. Even with my hands on regular DA would periodically nag me to jiggle the wheel. I’ve trained myself not tense up when driving; does DA just assume that people hold the wheel in some kind of death grip?

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Try resetting your facial recognition and look front of the windshield(not the camera) when you set them up again
 
I’ve trained myself not tense up when driving; does DA just assume that people hold the wheel in some kind of death grip?
It's not pressure, it's torque. You just have to put more weight on one side, like one hand + arm weight hanging from 9 or 3. I know a lot of people never got it to work right, but I'd get no nags at all just relaxing with an arm on the armrest or door holding the wheel.
 
Curious on people’s feedback on the new update 2.8.0.

Those that got the update, how is the hands free drive assist? What is your experience? Does it work well or does it keep on disengaging drive assist?
I used it driving to to the beach and also up to Philly. It was phenomenal and a MASSIVE upgrade from previous Dream Drive Pro (which was less predictably responsive and far more driver intervention required). This is the drive assist that I paid for!!!! Well done. Gaining more and more trust to the point it is approaching true autonomous driving). Well done Development Team!!!!
 
...Gaining more and more trust to the point it is approaching true autonomous driving). Well done Development Team!!!!
Yeah I see this happening with me, too. The more I use it, the more comfortable I am with it.
 
I love it! It's changed me from hating my GT to actually liking it. Normally, I have a surface street 3.5 mile commute, so I don't get to use it, but I finally did last weekend and it was great on the freeway for the 150 mile round trip. It seems like the driver assist works better overall too. The only times it wasn't great was when transitioning from one freeway to another and through construction zones. The other problem is that because I'm tall (6" 2'), the steering wheel blocks my face from the attention camera unless the wheel is all the way down. When I do that, I can't see the speedometer. Stupid design, Lucid engineers! Why not put it in the rearview mirror like I think GM did? Or maybe in the steering wheel center hub?
 
The other problem is that because I'm tall (6" 2'), the steering wheel blocks my face from the attention camera unless the wheel is all the way down. When I do that, I can't see the speedometer. Stupid design, Lucid engineers! Why not put it in the rearview mirror like I think GM did? Or maybe in the steering wheel center hub?
They did fix that in the Gravity - it's on the steering wheel hub. At least for the Air they could "break" it away from the bottom of the display and move it onto the bottom unused part of the display. It would be an ugly lump, but would at least be more functional.
 
Tuesday I drove 200+ miles on US 23 and I-75. Often there was heavy rain. The system performed flawlessly. I’d give Lucid’s engineers a standing ovation
 
I’ve trained myself not tense up when driving; does DA just assume that people hold the wheel in some kind of death grip?
On the Air, it’s torque, not grip. So I keep my hand at like 7-8 o clock on the wheel and just have it hang. No issues. Occasionally it asks for a jiggle and I oblige, but it’s not constant.

With HFDA, it’s lovely because hands can rest in my lap, I can hold hands with my wife, I can use them to adjust the music or AC, whatever.
 
When is 2.8 coming to UAE?
 
I just made a long trip in my Air Touring and it was not a good experience. I am not super tall, but for me to see the cockpit panel and for the bottom of the wheel not to rub against my knees, I need the wheel near its highest position, which partially blocks the driver facing camera. Strangely, the dream drive pro hands-free assist works OK if I am wearing sunglasses, but when I take them off, the car nags me constantly to pay attention and take control. In stop-go traffic this is really insanely irritating. Lowering the wheel to get a clear shot at the driver facing camera is not an option with my body configuration. Lucid needs to fix this, either by providing an option to disable the camera at your own risk, or sell a stick-on periscope or some other way to make the ADAS (for which I paid good money) actually work for anyone that isn't a midget.
The other thing that was super frustrating, is that the navigation system has no option to not use toll roads. If the system detects traffic ahead, it takes you off the most efficient route to the entrance of a toll road for which I don't have a transponder. It only tells you about the toll AFTER you have left the original freeway. Switched to Waze which is much better.
The longer I own the car, the more frustrated I become with it. There are so many minor irritations that it has got to the stage that I really cannot recommend it to friends that are considering going EV. Drives great, but will also drive you crazy.
 
I just made a long trip in my Air Touring and it was not a good experience. I am not super tall, but for me to see the cockpit panel and for the bottom of the wheel not to rub against my knees, I need the wheel near its highest position, which partially blocks the driver facing camera....
To let the face camera see me in my Air, I have to position the steering wheel to block the top inch of the cockpit display. I'm of average height and I assume this steering wheel position will be the same for most others. It's not great but I've gotten used to it.

This was fixed in Gravity.
 
I just made a long trip in my Air Touring and it was not a good experience. I am not super tall, but for me to see the cockpit panel and for the bottom of the wheel not to rub against my knees, I need the wheel near its highest position, which partially blocks the driver facing camera. Strangely, the dream drive pro hands-free assist works OK if I am wearing sunglasses, but when I take them off, the car nags me constantly to pay attention and take control. In stop-go traffic this is really insanely irritating. Lowering the wheel to get a clear shot at the driver facing camera is not an option with my body configuration. Lucid needs to fix this, either by providing an option to disable the camera at your own risk, or sell a stick-on periscope or some other way to make the ADAS (for which I paid good money) actually work for anyone that isn't a midget.
The other thing that was super frustrating, is that the navigation system has no option to not use toll roads. If the system detects traffic ahead, it takes you off the most efficient route to the entrance of a toll road for which I don't have a transponder. It only tells you about the toll AFTER you have left the original freeway. Switched to Waze which is much better.
The longer I own the car, the more frustrated I become with it. There are so many minor irritations that it has got to the stage that I really cannot recommend it to friends that are considering going EV. Drives great, but will also drive you crazy.
if you extend the steering wheel towards your body, does it help the wheel to clear your knees while still allowing it to be lower and not block the camera view of your face? took me about 2-3 weeks of adjustments when I got my AT to get it dialed in. I'm very happy with it now.
 
I am 166cm find sitting lower is actually better and can see ADAS status on top of the screen.

Its the sports part of the sedan.
 
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